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Insurers, Politicians Girding For Supreme Court Health Law Decision
Kaiser Health News ^ | June 13 2012

Posted on 06/13/2012 7:28:24 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

Insurance company executives tell news outlets they support the mandate to buy insurance or pay a fine, as Republicans try to refine their post-SCOTUS decision strategy.

(Excerpt) Read more at kaiserhealthnews.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012; health
Really? Insurance company execs WANT a mandate? Gee, I wonder why....

And by the way, insurance execs, it is NOT a "fine", it is a TAX.

Anyway, the link gives you about seven different summaries of different news sources discussing this issue.

I hold my breath every weekday at 10 am...SCOTUS will supposedly issue its healthcare ruling at 10am on a workday in June.

1 posted on 06/13/2012 7:28:37 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper
If you follow Laura Ingraham on twitter she will announce when the court is releasing the decision.
2 posted on 06/13/2012 7:36:42 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: SoFloFreeper

Insurance companies have obviously been dictated to by the administration and are craven and depraved.


3 posted on 06/13/2012 7:37:03 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: SoFloFreeper

If SCOTUS strikes down the mandate, but leaves the rest of the crap sandwich intact, look for the REAL fun to begin!

These same insurance executives will do a 180 and begin lobbying for repeal with every breath left in their body.
It will be SuperPAC Armageddon for Obama this fall. They are not gonna be stuck with the pre-existing conditions, the 26 year old slackers, the millions of free screenings and all the rest if 30 million paying customers at gunpoint do not come along with it.


4 posted on 06/13/2012 7:37:45 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Perdogg

People still use twitter?

Who knew?!


5 posted on 06/13/2012 7:37:54 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

—If SCOTUS strikes down the mandate, but leaves the rest of the crap sandwich intact, look for the REAL fun to begin!—

In a sort of sick way, it’s kinda what I’m hoping for. It will more effectively expose that the emperor has no clothes. Just killing it all makes it an Obama defeat. Leaving the rest intact makes it much, much worse. That may be a good thing in the long run.


6 posted on 06/13/2012 7:40:19 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I work in IT for a Healthcare insurer and all this yo-yo-ing of the requirements will keep me employed for quite a while.


7 posted on 06/13/2012 7:44:16 AM PDT by AU72
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To: SoFloFreeper
I have been seeing Romney on Fox News behind a sign reading, "Obamacare, Remove and Replace." We need to bring signs to the next Romney speech saying, "Obamacare: End it, DON'T MEND IT.!
8 posted on 06/13/2012 7:56:59 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: Buckeye McFrog
"These same insurance executives will do a 180 and begin lobbying for repeal with every breath left in their body."

Yet UnitedHealth Care announced this week they would keep all of the coverage mandates required by the law if the law itself is struck down by the SC. There is money to be made there somewhere:

http://www.beckershospitalreview.com/news-analysis/unitedhealthcare-will-follow-ppaca-provisions-regardless-of-supreme-court-decision.html

9 posted on 06/13/2012 8:05:05 AM PDT by buckalfa (Nabob of Negativity)
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To: buckalfa

The insurance companies are feeding the alligator and hoping they will be the last to be eaten.
If the govt mandates the purchase of your product..they also mandate your profits and control you.


10 posted on 06/13/2012 8:25:09 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: buckalfa

What will happen, I think, is this: United will keep the provisions and jack up their rates.

Obamugabe and/or his heirs in the Demonrat party will scream “If only government controlled it, you’d have the benefit without the increased rates!”


11 posted on 06/13/2012 8:30:19 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: cuban leaf

Also, killing off all of Obamacare would get the Catholic Church leadership of the hook on the birth control mandate.
They’d retreat to a neutral corner and we would not have them pounding the pulpits this fall. If SCOTUS leaves those aspects in tact the Bishops will have no choice but to openly oppose his re-election.


12 posted on 06/13/2012 8:40:49 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: buckalfa
Yet UnitedHealth Care announced this week they would keep all of the coverage mandates required by the law if the law itself is struck down by the SC.

They simply don't want to be sitting in the center of the target for the inevitable attacks of the Obama campaign, OWS, the SEIU, etc. etc. etc. Let Blue Cross take it over the head this time.


13 posted on 06/13/2012 8:43:26 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SoFloFreeper

That’s a big ole duh!

That’s like McDonalds wanting a ‘mandate’ to buy three cheeseburgers a day.

Gah, let’s hope Republicans don’t stay slaves to the insurance companies and their desired mandate and screw us all in the process.


14 posted on 06/13/2012 8:47:45 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Insurers agree that people should be forced to buy their product. Yeah, there is a tought one.

I’m sure McDonalds would also agree to a mandate that all families must buy a daily hamburger.

Why would anybody listen to the group that is benefiting from a law? Of course they support the mandate requiring people to buy their product. Thank goodness it is unconstitutional.

We STILL need to get this entire 3000 page abomonition off the books as soon as we get the presidency and the Senate. that is, we will have to FORCE the GOP-e president and Senate leades to bend to our will and toss the entire abomination.

END IT don’t mend it!!!!!!!!!!!

If there is anything good in it, pass that separately after REAPEALING the entire 3000 page scourge.


15 posted on 06/13/2012 8:51:25 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog; SoFloFreeper; Oldexpat
As you all suggest,CYA seems to be the motive in this situation. Another angle on this is that a few insurance companies are now considering / actually buying hospitals and physician practices. Control from both sides of the equation to maximize profit. Entrepenurism at its finest or illegal monopoly? I am not sure which.
16 posted on 06/13/2012 8:59:02 AM PDT by buckalfa (Nabob of Negativity)
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To: Buckeye McFrog; SoFloFreeper; Oldexpat
As you all suggest,CYA seems to be the motive in this situation. Another angle on this is that a few insurance companies are now considering / actually buying hospitals and physician practices. Control from both sides of the equation to maximize profit. Entrepenurism at its finest or illegal monopoly? I am not sure which.
17 posted on 06/13/2012 8:59:02 AM PDT by buckalfa (Nabob of Negativity)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I don’t understand why people get so worked up about one’s child being “on their insurance plan”?

It is NOT free. I can get insurance through the company I work with for the wife and me for about $250 a month. Its $360 a month with my 23 yo daughter who happens to have cancer.

So what is your beef with it?


18 posted on 06/13/2012 9:03:51 AM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Let Blue Cross take it over the head this time.”

In our state, BC covers almost all of the Federal employees, all of the state employees, most of the medical center employees and most of the school districts except for the very major ones. We have noticed a slow down to providers in payments for the state employees but payments for Federal employees is almost instantaneous. Will be interesting to see if BC is indeed the financial scapegoat.


19 posted on 06/13/2012 9:12:05 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: subterfuge

I don’t think anyone has an issue with one’s child being “on my insurance plan” per se, it’s having that mandated by the Federal Government which most of us object to. If they can dictate that they are free to force insurers to do pretty much whatever they want to.

I am sorry to hear about your daughter and pray that she is doing well.


20 posted on 06/13/2012 11:58:19 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Thanks for that Buckeye.


21 posted on 06/14/2012 9:41:30 AM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Any idea when SCOTUS will render their decision?


22 posted on 06/14/2012 9:49:07 AM PDT by Raebie (WS)
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To: Raebie

The normal course of SCOTUS decisions is this: on working days of June (non-holidays, Monday through Friday) at 10:00 am, the court releases decisions.

Of course, this decision may be an exception, given the magnitude of the case.

What follows is my speculation:

I believe Obamugabe knows the outcome—I am betting one of his two appointees (Sotomayor and Kagan) has tipped them off about the outcome. I believe (but can’t prove) Obamugabe’s press conference LAST FRIDAY was to thwart what he THOUGHT was going to be a SCOTUS announcement that day.

That SCOTUS decision did not come—and so the presser was cut short.

Notice Obamugabe’s q&a session only went three questions? He got out pretty quick.

My guess is Roberts found out Obamugabe was going out to soak up some attention, so the issuance of the decision was halted.

Roberts, I think, will put the announcment out at a time less likely to allow Obamugabe to immediately come out and garner some attention to dilute the impact.

End of speculation, except to say I think whatever nullification of the healthcare comes down, the vote will be 5-4. I don’t believe any “liberal” members will vote for the Constitution.


23 posted on 06/14/2012 11:14:18 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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