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Second Miss USA Contestant says she overheard list of Top 5 finalists before live announcement
Fox News ^ | 6-12-2012 | Hollie McKay

Posted on 06/13/2012 7:54:29 AM PDT by servo1969

“I saw Florida backstage and she was very, very flustered and upset. I thought it might be because she didn’t make the top 15 cut, but at that point she was able to reveal to me at least four of the five names who went on to be the top girls,” the contestant, who spoke on condition of anonymity, told FOXNews.com exclusively. “She couldn’t remember the fifth because she was so upset. Several of the girls then started hearing through the grapevine about a list; a lot of people were upset.”

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“Apparently the morning of June 3rd [Brez] saw a folder lying open to a page that said 'FINAL SHOW Telecast, June 3, 2012' and she saw the places for Top 5 already filled in,” Monnin wrote on her Facebook page. “After the Top 16 were called and we were standing backstage she hesitantly said to me and another contestant that she knew who the Top 5 were. I said 'who do you think they will be?' She said that she didn't 'think' she 'knew' because she saw the list that morning. She relayed whose names were on the list. Then we agreed to wait and see if that was indeed the Top 5 called that night. After it was indeed the Top 5 I knew the show must be rigged.”

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1 posted on 06/13/2012 7:54:46 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

Trump would never rig anything. /s


2 posted on 06/13/2012 7:58:28 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: servo1969

This just doesn’t matter.

Was the show rigged? Maybe.

I don’t care. This is pretty meaningless stuff.

-Rex


3 posted on 06/13/2012 7:59:19 AM PDT by RexBeach (Mr. Obama Can't Count.)
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To: servo1969

I don’t even know how they go about determing who becomes the finalists, because I don’t watch the show.


4 posted on 06/13/2012 8:01:31 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: servo1969

Just more “reality” TV.


5 posted on 06/13/2012 8:03:48 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: servo1969

So, were the sports books downstairs and in other places like the “M” casino taking action on this?

If so, this could be bigger than just another false TV show premise.


6 posted on 06/13/2012 8:04:58 AM PDT by cicero2k
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To: RexBeach

Meaningless except that Trump is sueing the first girl who (apparently) told the truth about this.


7 posted on 06/13/2012 8:05:44 AM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: servo1969
Next you're gonna tell me “The Apprentice” is rigged.
8 posted on 06/13/2012 8:06:02 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: servo1969

Will Trump apologize to the first contestant now? Or will he use his money and power to destroy this contestant also?

Trump has a credibilty problem here and he wants to keep it quiet.


9 posted on 06/13/2012 8:07:30 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: Tex-Con-Man

If you tell me that professional wrestling is rigged, I might just jump off a bridge.


10 posted on 06/13/2012 8:08:26 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Be careful of believing something just because you want it to be true.)
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To: RexBeach

It’s meaningless to you, but not to the women who work hard and believe the rules they all knew going in pertained to everyone. This is actually bigger than you may think.


11 posted on 06/13/2012 8:09:11 AM PDT by Hildy ("When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - Socrates)
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To: RexBeach

It’s serious if the contestants don’t know it’s rigged. Nothing wrong with a professional wrestling type of “competition” as long as everyone know the game. But participants need to know.


12 posted on 06/13/2012 8:10:27 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

LOL


13 posted on 06/13/2012 8:10:40 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: sphinx

I see.

So, what are we going to call this? “MissUSAGate?”

Ugh.


14 posted on 06/13/2012 8:12:39 AM PDT by RexBeach (Mr. Obama Can't Count.)
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To: servo1969

My family and I were in Las Vegas in 2010 during the time the Miss Universe was at the Mandalay Bay. We splurged and got tickets for the wife and 2 daughters. Of course I did not go and played poker instead. Before the broadcast the hosts mentioned it is to paraphrase a “scripted” show. The two biggest fan bases were Filipanos and Mexicans. Guess who made the finals Miss Mexico, the eventual winner, and Miss Phillipines.


15 posted on 06/13/2012 8:12:45 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

boxing = rigged
Olympic ice skating = rigged
I am sick to death about all the liars, cheaters, adulterers, homewreckers, thieves, murderers in our culture.

AVOID THESE PEOPLE AND THEIR PRODUCTS AT ALL COSTS


16 posted on 06/13/2012 8:13:22 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: servo1969

We need Congressional hearings on this!

Maybe Bill Clinton and John Edwards could co-chair a Special Commission on Beauty Pageants. Perhaps Barney Frank could be Special Prosecutor since he could be impartial.


17 posted on 06/13/2012 8:14:13 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: servo1969
Looks like The Donald has some more little girls to sue.
18 posted on 06/13/2012 8:15:40 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
“Next you're gonna tell me “The Apprentice” is rigged.”

Funny you should mention that! I thought it was pretty hilarious that Sharon Osbourne got suddenly cut from the show for seemingly no reason. Then in the next episode the contestants had to put their charities on a bottle of Snapple. Sharons was Colo-rectal Cancer Awareness. Betya Snapple said, “She's fired!”

19 posted on 06/13/2012 8:15:59 AM PDT by Casie
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To: Hildy
It’s meaningless to you, but not to the women who work hard and believe the rules they all knew going in pertained to everyone. This is actually bigger than you may think.

It's about as relevant and memorable as Rounds 4 thru 7 of each year's NFL Draft.

20 posted on 06/13/2012 8:16:03 AM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: yldstrk

I would imagine most anything with a panel of judges who determine the outcome could be rigged.


21 posted on 06/13/2012 8:18:34 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: servo1969

the fact that Pia Zadora was one of the Top 5 gave her a clue...


22 posted on 06/13/2012 8:24:28 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: RexBeach

Its only mildly important because Trump is sueing Miss PA for saying there was a list. With these 2 coming forward, his suit is pretty shakey.

Other than that, who cares?


23 posted on 06/13/2012 8:24:32 AM PDT by Adder (Da bro has GOT to go!)
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To: Hildy
It’s meaningless to you, but not to the women who work hard ... .

Work hard?

Exactly what kind of work is that?

24 posted on 06/13/2012 8:25:24 AM PDT by JohnG45
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To: Adder

I AM SHOCKED, SHOCKED I TEL YOU !

What this requires is photographic evidence from the swimsuit competition.


25 posted on 06/13/2012 8:32:58 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Adder

I AM SHOCKED, SHOCKED I TELL YOU !

What this requires is photographic evidence from the swimsuit competition.


26 posted on 06/13/2012 8:33:10 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: JohnG45
"Work hard? Exactly what kind of work is that?"

Well those bodies don't just occur naturally.

27 posted on 06/13/2012 8:33:33 AM PDT by Average Al (Forbidden fruit leads to many jams.)
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To: servo1969

Just like DWTS, no real talent, winners are determined by home voters. If it was a true talent dance show it would be up to the judges to declare a winner. But even then, there would be some collusion. Better that than a popularity show. No TV talent show winner is determined by talent alone.


28 posted on 06/13/2012 8:34:47 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad - Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: RexBeach

Look for Senate hearings and a special prosecutor. Especially if the think they can go after Trump.


29 posted on 06/13/2012 8:38:15 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: SkyDancer

“Just like DWTS, no real talent, winners are determined by home voters. “

That’s only true to a point.

Just like AGT and AI, the producers have the last say as to who wins.

Pickup an AGT contract and you’ll find written in it that the producers of the show have the option of determining the winner.

Tie breaker or not..


30 posted on 06/13/2012 8:41:30 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: servo1969

All I know is that my wife and I thought four out of five of the finalists were serious poster prospects for Purina Dog Chow. Miss Michigan, a stunningly beautiful woman, didn’t even make it to the final ten.

I looked at that final five and I said, “Man, what’s going on here?” It was strange.

I’ll have to say, those judges looked as if Trump had picked them from the grade C level personalities. That guy Kardashian that they’re trying desperately to turn into a sex symbol was one of them. FAIL!!! About half of them were absolutely laughable.

Television has gone through plastic and is coming out the other side as surreal.

The questions to the finalists are so bizarre that you half expect them to ask, “Finalist number three, is it okay for people to marry their pets?” “Well, I don’t see why not. Pets are people too...”


31 posted on 06/13/2012 8:42:33 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: JohnG45

Doesn’t the judging go way beyond what is shown on TV? (haven’t watched it in years) If I recall there are numerous events over the course of days. So it is conceivable the Finalist and winner are determined in advance of the Televised Dog and Pony show.

Nothing wrong with that other than the Contestants should be aware of it. Of course the problem comes in when the preordained Champion falls on her face during the Swimsuit Contest or answers a question like this poor girl.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww


32 posted on 06/13/2012 8:42:43 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: RexBeach

For it to be rigged and then for Trump to sue a contestant who claimed as much is, however, an issue.


33 posted on 06/13/2012 8:46:02 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: servo1969

I remember back in the 1950s or early 1960s we were watching a LIVE TV broadcast of the Miss America Pageant.

The show still had an hour to and we flipped on the radio for some reason and found the winner had already been chosen and her name.

I never believed in LIVE broadcasts again.


34 posted on 06/13/2012 8:46:27 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I LIKE ART! Click my name. See my web page.)
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To: Bigh4u2

My wife spotted this several years ago.

On America’s Got Talent, they promise the winner $1 million dollars. At the end of the show they have a disclaimer that reveals that million dollars will be paid out over 40 years.


35 posted on 06/13/2012 8:47:14 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: Bigh4u2

http://www.performers.net/junk/agreement.pdf


36 posted on 06/13/2012 8:47:25 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: C19fan
Guess who made the finals Miss Mexico, the eventual winner, and Miss Phillipines.

I don't know about Miss Phillipines but based on my scientific analysis of programming on Univision and Telemundo, if there is ever a year Miss Mexico isn't in the top then she was robbed!

37 posted on 06/13/2012 8:48:23 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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To: DoughtyOne

Yep.

There is also the ‘lump sum’ option of $300,000.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/carriecoolidge/2011/09/15/americas-got-talent-winner-is-not-an-instant-millionaire/


38 posted on 06/13/2012 8:50:26 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: servo1969

The Donald has some ‘splainin’ to do!............


39 posted on 06/13/2012 8:51:23 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: yldstrk

“...boxing = rigged
Olympic ice skating = rigged
I am sick to death about all the liars, cheaters, adulterers, homewreckers, thieves, murderers in our culture.

AVOID THESE PEOPLE AND THEIR PRODUCTS AT ALL COSTS...”

May I add to your list:

Super Bowl XL = rigged.

I say that because the ref that did the game admitted that there were several blown calls that benifitted Pittsburgh.


40 posted on 06/13/2012 9:03:18 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (In Memphis on January 20, 2009, pump price were $1.49. We all know what happened after that.)
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To: Bigh4u2

Didn’t know that. Thanks. So it still basically comes down to talent doesn’t count, the judges votes don’t count. It’s all about popularity. We have DWTS down here in Australia. I like the dancing and all but now I just look to see who’ll win on popularity rather than skill and improvement. Sad.


41 posted on 06/13/2012 9:03:35 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad - Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: Bigh4u2

And then Uncle Sam gets his $100 grand or so.


42 posted on 06/13/2012 9:06:31 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Yep.

I’ve heard that Michael had just enough left to build his grandparents that new home..


43 posted on 06/13/2012 9:11:05 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Bigh4u2

OH NO!!!!

Trump rigging a beauty contest?? And he is associated with Romney? Romney has to drop out now.

Wait, did I hear something about Obama and Tony Rezko?????

/crickets


44 posted on 06/13/2012 9:19:38 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (ABO 2012)
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To: servo1969

I am willing to console the losers.


45 posted on 06/13/2012 9:39:25 AM PDT by razorback-bert (I'm in shape. Round is a shape isn't it?)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

I thought “The Apprentice” was rigged when Clay Aiken didn’t win but brought more money in & had a better show. Decided then that it wasn’t worth watching anymore.


46 posted on 06/13/2012 9:45:25 AM PDT by jrcats (Hope & Change= No Hope & only changes that tries to destroy America)
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To: servo1969

A very quick and easy solution is to go to the bookies sheets in Vegas. If they show large changes in bets or odds during the contest, nuff said.


47 posted on 06/13/2012 9:46:28 AM PDT by Cyman
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To: driftdiver
Trump would never rig anything. /s

After watching Season 4 of The Apprentice where the black guy won (after Season 3 where the woman won), it seemed obvious to me that his show is rigged. Why would we expect his beauty pageant to be any different?

48 posted on 06/13/2012 10:20:23 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: RexBeach
So, what are we going to call this? “MissUSAGate?”

I volunteer to a deep, thorough, penetrating investigation of all the contestants.

49 posted on 06/13/2012 10:23:25 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: servo1969

You’ve been TRumPed!

what an asshat.


50 posted on 06/13/2012 10:36:16 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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