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Issa: 31 Democrats Will Vote To Condemn Holder
Buzzfeed ^ | Jun 11, 2012 | Zeke Miller

Posted on 06/13/2012 3:28:10 PM PDT by kingattax

House Committee and Oversight and Government Reform Chairman Darrell Issa told BuzzFeed today that he expects 31 Democrats will join Congressional Republicans in finding Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress for failing to turn over documents relating to a botched gun-running investigation.

Issa, who has risen to national prominence as the point of the Republican spear in investigating alleged Obama administration wrongdoing, called for a committee vote on contempt next week in advance of a full House vote on Holder's conduct in the so-called "Fast and Furious" operation, in which a federal agent was allegedly killed with a gun the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms allowed to be trafficked.

"The real question is, we’re opening up the data that we have to all the members, so as they start reading specifics of what we know was known and was hidden from Congress, and what we’d like to know and been denied, how many of the Democrats will vote with us," Issa said after speaking at the Personal Democracy Forum in New York. "I expect we’ll have about 31 Democrats with us." Issa said under normal circumstances he'd expect the vote to pressure Holder to turn over the documents, but that now he's hoping the president intercedes on Congress' behalf.

"After Thursday’s hearing with the Attorney General, no, I don’t expect it, but I would hope that the president would second-guess the man that he says he has full faith and confidence in, and tell him that it’s time to deliver reasonable documents," Issa said.

Issa compared the growing scandal to Iran Contra and Watergate, saying the cover-up is far worse than the "dumb" operation. "This is like Iran Contra, like Watergate, and other embarrassments over the years," Issa said. "The major embarrassment is the delay in being honest and open about it. It’s not about something really dumb got done. Dumb things happen in government. But when the GSA did dumb things, once it became public we saw a pretty quick change, certainly Secret Service we saw an even quicker change."

Asked whether his committee would hold hearings to investigate White House leaks, Issa said that while he has jurisdiction to investigate, his committee currently has no plans to. "We have a very busy schedule, and we will coordinate with the other committees [to investigate]," he said, noting that the House and Senate intelligence committees would likely take the lead


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2deadfeds; 300deadmexicans; atf; banglist; dea; dhs; doj; ericholder; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; holdercontempt; ice; murdergate; obama
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1 posted on 06/13/2012 3:28:16 PM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax

Put him in a Prison Zebra suit in prison for 20-yrs.


2 posted on 06/13/2012 3:32:26 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: kingattax

With any luck holders arrogance will be his ultimate downfall.


3 posted on 06/13/2012 3:32:49 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: kingattax

This is a win-win for conservatism.

A local conservative talk-radio host had a former member of the DOJ last night discussing Holder. He said that Obama would never let Holder go before the election no matter what happens because his lunatic Leftist base would go ape-shiite if he did.

And if he stays, he is the ultimate albatross around his neck.


4 posted on 06/13/2012 3:35:35 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: kingattax

Just as we suspected.


5 posted on 06/13/2012 3:35:35 PM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: kingattax

Whatever becomes of him needs to be tied to Mr. Skittles as well. Where there is a stink, there is a turd somewhere.


6 posted on 06/13/2012 3:36:44 PM PDT by lgjhn23
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To: kingattax
Issa compared the growing scandal to Iran Contra and Watergate, saying the cover-up is far worse than the "dumb" operation.

As cover-ups go, this is a big one, but in this case, the operation was in fact far worse than the cover-up.

7 posted on 06/13/2012 3:37:01 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: kingattax

I heard that they think he’ll produce some docs rat the last minute but it shouldn’t excuse the fact that he has not produced what was asked for in 18 months.

Hopefully something will come of this. A lot of lawmakers are for some sort of punishment, I think.

If it was the last GOP AG, they would have been locked up by now.

This POS should not be above the law and his job should not be political but he has been an openly dimocRATic azz-kisser. In fact the dimocRAT party is under his thumb as I see it.


8 posted on 06/13/2012 3:39:27 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Criminaliens or Crimigrants...0bamao's people?)
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To: kingattax

Sounds like some good old fashioned saber rattling to influence other Democrats. I hope a few more get on board.


9 posted on 06/13/2012 3:39:50 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: LucyT

ping


10 posted on 06/13/2012 3:40:06 PM PDT by GOPJ (Take your little hammer, little sickle and your scary red signs with a fist on it, and go home...)
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To: kingattax

OMG, this is serious. They might suspend his House gym pass for a week if he doesn’t cooperate.


11 posted on 06/13/2012 3:40:11 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: kingattax

This scumbag is looooooong overdue for an ass-kicking after his involvement with Ruby Ridge and Waco!


12 posted on 06/13/2012 3:42:05 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks kingattax.


13 posted on 06/13/2012 3:49:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: N. Theknow

-——This scumbag is looooooong overdue for an ass-kicking after his involvement with Ruby Ridge and Waco!——

In what way was Holder involved in Ruby Ridge and Waco ?


14 posted on 06/13/2012 3:50:16 PM PDT by Popman (When you elect a clown: expect a circus...)
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To: kingattax

Is there a way Obama could blame Bush? Some Democrat may believe it!


15 posted on 06/13/2012 3:57:07 PM PDT by FreedBird
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To: jiggyboy
As cover-ups go, this is a big one, but in this case, the operation was in fact far worse than the cover-up.

You know that, and I know that, but from the standpoint of trying to get Democrats to cooperate, it's probably better to play up the significance of the cover-up. After all, it's likely that the vast majority of the Democrats had no involvement with the original crime, but will be unable to avoid involvement with the cover-up if they continue to obstruct the investigation. Further, from a damage-control perspective, if it seems that the cover-up is going to grow to be worse than the original crime, then it may be worth abandoning it so it doesn't grow so much, even if doing so would let the original ("minor") crime come to light.

16 posted on 06/13/2012 4:01:15 PM PDT by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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To: Popman
I'm not sure about Ruby Ridge; most of the discussion I've seen concerns Waco and Oklahoma City.
17 posted on 06/13/2012 4:04:43 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: kingattax

How many “Republicans” will vote FOR Holder?


18 posted on 06/13/2012 4:06:38 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: N. Theknow

Not to mention all his bank connections.


19 posted on 06/13/2012 4:16:23 PM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: kingattax

Any way we could get Lon Horiuchi AND Holder?


20 posted on 06/13/2012 4:18:11 PM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: fwdude

Holder is Obama’s cover. F&F was Obama’s plan. Holder executed the plan. Holder will be throwing Obama under the bus, not vice versa.


21 posted on 06/13/2012 4:19:42 PM PDT by abclily
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To: Charles Martel

Yea...I did a quick google search and PATCON keep coming up....

I had no idea.....

If true....everyone of sob’s should be hung.....


22 posted on 06/13/2012 4:20:20 PM PDT by Popman (When you elect a clown: expect a circus...)
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To: kingattax

He called this a Dumb thing??? The Death of this Agent is not something I would call Dumb, more like Tragic.


23 posted on 06/13/2012 4:21:53 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: kingattax
Well I will take this as good news for now but for the record I have zero confidence Issa and the Republicans have any intention on going to the matt with this. Anyone with a brain knows this ends with Obama himself. They will "work something out". The real drive behind this is political points and popularity for Issa.

"Issa, who has risen to national prominence as the point of the Republican spear". And there you have it. Issa is using this to promote himself and score political points. He does not have the guts to see it through as the conclusion means holder goes to prison and Obama is impeached.

"a botched gun-running investigation."

Just stop it! The only thing that was "botched" is they got caught trying to subvert the constitution by creating a gun control crisis.

24 posted on 06/13/2012 4:22:37 PM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: Popman

Nothing will happen until after November.


25 posted on 06/13/2012 4:25:30 PM PDT by AGreatPer (Any Republican. Just NO Obama.)
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To: Cementjungle
OMG, this is serious. They might suspend his House gym pass for a week if he doesn’t cooperate.

And I'm sure this will be detailed in a "strongly worded letter"....lol
26 posted on 06/13/2012 4:25:41 PM PDT by copaliscrossing (Progressives are Socialists)
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To: fwdude
If Obama fires Holder he may squeal on O.
27 posted on 06/13/2012 4:26:49 PM PDT by Average Al (Forbidden fruit leads to many jams.)
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To: kingattax

Don’t count your Democrats before they hatch Mr. Issa. No doubt the Dems will promise something to get the Repubs to “negotiate” with Holder...once he is off the hook for the contempt charge those 33 votes will disappear like a fart in the wind.


28 posted on 06/13/2012 4:28:07 PM PDT by JrsyJack (a healthy dose of buckshot will probably get you the last word in any argument.)
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To: Average Al

Exactly!!! And the congress critters know this already.


29 posted on 06/13/2012 4:30:45 PM PDT by abclily
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30 posted on 06/13/2012 4:30:48 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: kingattax

Don’t count your Democrats before they hatch Mr. Issa. No doubt the Dems will promise something to get the Repubs to “negotiate” with Holder...once he is off the hook for the contempt charge those 33 votes will disappear like a fart in the wind.


31 posted on 06/13/2012 4:31:21 PM PDT by JrsyJack (a healthy dose of buckshot will probably get you the last word in any argument.)
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32 posted on 06/13/2012 4:32:56 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: abclily

Pray for a little jail time for Holder to improve his memory.


33 posted on 06/13/2012 4:38:53 PM PDT by Average Al (Forbidden fruit leads to many jams.)
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To: AGreatPer
Nothing will happen until after November.

That works.

Keep demanding more e-mails, have more committee hearings, etc. Keep his smug face on the tube right up to the election. With the short attention span of the electorate, the closer this gets to November the better for our side.

34 posted on 06/13/2012 4:42:04 PM PDT by The Citizen Soldier
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To: AGreatPer
The house could very well vote to condemn him and even impeach him. They might even get 30 or so Democrats to go along.

But they will never get 2/3rds of the senate to vote to remove him from office and it will be spun as a racist partisan move.

I hope it happens anyway just so we can get a recorded vote for posterity. It would be nice to see ObaMao forced to give him an early morning pardon on January 20, 2013.

35 posted on 06/13/2012 4:43:09 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Popman
Click here to learn more about the ass-holder
36 posted on 06/13/2012 5:00:09 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: N. Theknow

And Okie city.


37 posted on 06/13/2012 5:11:13 PM PDT by CPO retired
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To: The Citizen Soldier
", the closer this gets to November the better for our side."

Agree. Everyone is mentally on vacation now.

38 posted on 06/13/2012 5:26:25 PM PDT by AGreatPer (Any Republican. Just NO Obama.)
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To: kingattax

Issa needs to grab onto some reality. When push comes to shove, those 31 donks will get in line to kiss Holder’s butt.


39 posted on 06/13/2012 5:56:49 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: TribalPrincess2U

I heard that they think he’ll produce some docs rat the last minute but it shouldn’t excuse the fact that he has not produced what was asked for in 18 months.


Yup. He will throw a few more (nothing big) at them just to stop the contempt talk.


40 posted on 06/13/2012 6:01:56 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: rockrr
With any luck holders arrogance will be his ultimate downfall.

nobama also.

Let's have a contest: who is the most arrogant?

41 posted on 06/13/2012 6:02:18 PM PDT by upchuck (Need is not an acceptable lifestyle choice; dependent is not a career. ~ Dr. Tim Nerenz)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

I heard that they think he’ll produce some docs rat the last minute but it shouldn’t excuse the fact that he has not produced what was asked for in 18 months.


Yup. He will throw a few more (nothing big) at them just to stop the contempt talk.


42 posted on 06/13/2012 6:08:13 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: kingattax

IF they had any sense or even honor they would NOT be democrats..
Expecting sound logic from a democrat is flawed thinking..

Any that do... need to be watched as closely as any democrat..
They are delusional..


43 posted on 06/13/2012 6:17:44 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: kingattax

“relating to a botched gun-running investigation...”

This was not botched! They did exactly what they intended to do! They just got caught!


44 posted on 06/13/2012 6:24:25 PM PDT by Castigar
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To: treetopsandroofs

Enough republicans will vote for holder to keep him above the law and secure in his treason.

LLS


45 posted on 06/13/2012 6:26:48 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: JrsyJack

Remember, when Clinton’s hit-man Livingtone mentioned to Kathleen Willey (after sex allegations) about her missing cat? Methinks Obamagoons don’t stop with family pets...


46 posted on 06/13/2012 8:58:10 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: GOPJ; TheOldLady; netmilsmom; tomdavidd; Freeper; Gvl_M3; Flotsam_Jetsome; Berlin_Freeper; ...
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Thanks, GOPJ.

47 posted on 06/13/2012 9:48:55 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: FreedBird

Google “Wide Receiver”.
They have been trying to blame Bush from the gitgo.


48 posted on 06/13/2012 10:00:41 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: CPO retired

Let’s not forget marc rich either.


49 posted on 06/13/2012 10:02:47 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: kingattax
We are not interested. Holder is doing a fine job, just like Franklin Raines.
50 posted on 06/14/2012 12:35:42 AM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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