Well “pulling the plug” to me means the person is artificial life support. Me and my wife have made it clear we don’t intend to be kept alive by life support unless it is just temporary due to an accident. Extended life support - no way. These kind of questions have to be dealt with by the family on a case by case basis. “Pulling the plug” sometimes has to be done.
I finally found the one subject that will push me back into the arms of the Catholic Church. Whatever that institution’s failings, they are merciless in their condemnation of this stuff.
Yep! “Every man over 40 is a scoundrel.”
http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/literature/laureates/1925/shaw-bio.html
Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness don't mean much to the dead.
It’s the leftist trajectory, although it appears to be shaped by American culture as it proceeds with its predictable outcome of mass murder and mayhem.
The Russians and the Chinese came from cultures that already had a long history of genocide and tyrants, and, sure enough, they got Stalin and Mao. The Cubans come from the tradition of the strongman, and there’s swaggering Castro. When the Italians embraced the left under Mussolini, it was a lot more laid back than the German technocratic model.
So here we are. We’re hiding our genocide under a layer of laws and legal precedent with abortion, and calling it “choice” to reflect a culture of individual freedom. I expect the slaughter of the old to be a lot like the slaughter of the unborn. Lawsuits will be filed. People will protest. There will be emmenations of penumbras. Supporters will call it a “choice.” The murders themselves will take place in clean, quiet places surrounded by “compassionate” helpers from the private institution in charge. No one will be forced, but the pressure of culture, media, and government will be unbearable for many. It’s almost as if the Americans had come up with a way for the population to willingly, even happily, step in the concentration camps, for their own good, of course, and the good of everyone else.
The next step after this will be the normalization of suicide. People have a right to control their own bodies, don’t you know, and since the old and infirm have a “right” to die, then everyone has the same right.
I guess I’ll live long enough to see if this prediction comes true. God help us.
In my opinion, ObamaCare/DeathCare/AuschwitzCare was designed to be the next Holocaust via Death Panels with Big Bro and Big Sis deciding who lives and who dies based on their criteria.
She is now living in a nursing home but because her meds are regulated, she eats properly, and has adults her age to socialize with (all her needs are physical, not mental) she is thriving. She practically runs the place! The Grand kids can visit Grandma in a healthy environment and are learning so much from her! I feel like I have my mom back, I wish at home but she needs 24 hour care. But mentally she's doing great! She hasn't looked so good in years! She uses a wheel chair but with physical therapy can now get around on her own. She helps other patients with various stages of dementia and Alzheimer's find there way around and visits those that can't get out of bed. I think she deserves a pay check!
If you can't tell I visited her this evening and was amazed at her progress. My children have made friends with the patients, my youngest one wants to help out so much, I think we have a nurse in the making! My daughter actually chatted with a 107 year old today! Learning about history, her memories, first hand, was such a wonderful thing for my children or anyone’s children! On Memorial day, they had a picnic and brought in a guitarist/singer that sang Patriotic songs and I swear even the patients with advanced Alzheimer's sang every word! My children listened to their stories and helped out with refreshments and the like. It was a priceless experience for them! I had to stop myself from crying like a baby! These people are actually not a drain on society, but a priceless resource!!!
Which shows no signs of reversing if people do not pry themselves away from the television.
If they were to off me, the scum bags who now make multiple millions on my diabetes meds. will be ruined. No more gravy train from THIS little old lady.
Karmic.
Is there a difference between "cool" and "trendy"?
I was born with no hair, no teeth, poor eyesight and could not understand what was spoken to me. All I could do was eat, sleep and cry when I pooped my pants.
I am now old and I have no hair, no teeth, poor eyesight and can only understand half of what I hear. All I can do is eat, sleep and cry when I can’t make it to the potty and poop my pants.
I long for an end to the pain that is a constant companion at this end of the circle of life for I know that there is a new life awaiting me when the circle is complete.
I pray that government will not allowed to intervene or interfere in any way with my passing.
If an individual pays their own health care, they have the right to make their own health care decisions. If an individual relies on insurance, the insurance contract governs what is and is not covered. The individual has no moral right to demand anything beyond what’s covered in the policy.
Now the poor and elderly who depend on government provided care are an entirely different matter. If you do nothing to prepare yourself for independence in your retirement, don’t expect other citizens to provide a bottomless pit of money to take care of your health needs in old age. For example, you have no moral right to demand that someone give you $10 million (or anything really) to extend your life a few months.
While I think we are morally obliged to help others, I don’t think that means the individual can help themselves to whatever they want at other people’s expense. In other words, if Mr. Taxpayer is paying, Mr. Taxpayer — not the patient — determines the level of care. People should keep this in mind, because if they don’t like Uncle Sam making the decisions, don’t depend on Uncle Sam for care.
Add to that;
40 percent of the U.S. workforce to retire over the next five years.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2894020/posts
I mean, every Democrat from Nancy "Facelift" Pelosi to "Dingey" Harry Reed made fun of Sarah Palin for suggesting such patent nonsense... even Prezzadint Barrio Bummer chimed in on that one.
They wouldn't lie about that, would they?
You know, the govt. wanted this when FDR started giving away other people’s hard earned money. There were plenty of people opposed to him, but now they are more or less ignored, the same as we will be ignored 70 years from now when our kids and theirs are struggling with this mess.
Now the govt says just what those oppositionists said they would say: “We won’t take care of the elderly, it’s not possible”.
Really? Well, we would do so, but we’re not very well prepared to do so.
The idea that we might ration health care to seniors (or anyone else) is political anathema. Politicians do not dare breathe the R word, lest they be accused—however wrongly—of trying to pull the plug on Grandma. But the need to spend less money on the elderly at the end of life is the elephant in the room in the health-reform debate. Everyone sees it but no one wants to talk about it. At a more basic level, Americans are afraid not just of dying, but of talking and thinking about death. Until Americans learn to contemplate death as more than a scientific challenge to be overcome, our health-care system will remain unfixable......need to be carefully indented using the <blockquote> tag (and then unblocked, of course, at the end), so that readers don't form the unfortunate, and wrong, impression that American Dream was actually advocating this stuff. The problem is that in the article above, the provenience of these sentences is completely unmarked. It needs to be marked, by offsetting and possibly setting a font, for correct comprehension.
All these articles are Doing is Describing Obamacare. When Obama states that his Health care law will lower Costs what do you think he is Talking about? He Stated it in public at the Town Hall during His Campaign to the Woman who asked about the pacemaker for her Mother and Obama told her that we could not afford to provide things like that to people at that age regardless of how active they were.
But if you would just Google Ezekiel Emmanuel and the “Complete Lives System”,you will see the Guy and His Plan who Obama gave a Billion dollars in the Stimulus Package to implement what all these articles Write about.
I cant believe the ignorance of the American People,I a Printer Repair Dope has Been posting this for years now,it is right in front of our faces it is in the Obamacare law,these articles are just Just trying to justify what is at Present THE LAW OF THE LAND! This is how Obamacare cuts cost. Look at Emmanuel the Guy who is writing the policy and is being paid with OUR TAX DOLLARS!Google “Comparative Effectiveness Research Panel”Its all right there folks
....after all, did not our FASCIST Dear Leader personally recruit and appoint a renowned Medical Expert (Dr. Ezekiel "Mengele" Emanuel) as his "Health Czar?
Dr. Emamuel wrote in the Feb. 27, 2008, issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA)
"Vague promises of savings from cutting waste, enhancing prevention and wellness, installing electronic medical records and improving quality of care are merely 'lipstick' cost control, more for show and public relations than for true change."
"True reform, he argued, must include redefining doctors' ethical obligations.
In the June 18, 2008, issue of JAMA, Dr. Emanuel blames the Hippocratic Oath for the 'overuse' of medical care: 'Medical school education and post graduate education emphasize thoroughness,' he writes:
"This culture is further reinforced by a unique understanding of professional obligations, specifically the Hippocratic Oath's admonition to 'use my power to help the sick to the best of my ability and judgment' as an imperative to do everything for the patient regardless of cost or effect on others.'
In numerous writings, Dr. Emanuel chastises physicians for thinking only about their own patient's needs. ...
Dr. Emanuel believes "doctors should serve two masters, the patient and society, and that medical students should be trained 'to provide socially sustainable, cost-effective care.' One sign of progress he sees: 'the progression in end-of-life care mentality from 'do everything' to more palliative care shows that change in physician norms and practices is possible." In the Lancet, Jan. 31, 2009, Dr. Emanuel and co-authors presented a 'complete lives system' for the allocation of very scarce resources, such as kidneys, vaccines, dialysis machines, intensive care beds, and others.
Dr. Emanuel concedes that his plan appears to discriminate against older people, but he explains:
"Unlike allocation by sex or race, allocation by age is not invidious discrimination. ... Treating 65 year olds differently because of stereotypes or falsehoods would be ageist; treating them differently because they have already had more life-years is not"
Sadly, this IS what the young want because they want their parent,s MONEY and don,t want to bother with taking care of them.
Once abortion broke that parent/child relationship, this is what you get.