Skip to comments.Justified to kill: Why Detroit dominates the state's justifiable homicides
Posted on 06/14/2012 4:46:34 AM PDT by cripplecreek
DETROIT, MI In a city that just might be the nations justifiable homicide capital, Willie White was watching basketball when he heard the intruders return.
So, after he flipped off the television and grabbed his gun, the 75-year-old retiree took the last shot of the night.
More at link.
(Excerpt) Read more at mlive.com ...
Like many Detroit residents frustrated by the citys dwindling police resources, White prepared himself for the worst.
He watched the game on mute as his sick wife slept in a second-floor bedroom above him. When he heard his side door being forced open, he grabbed the rifle he'd loaded with a single bullet hours earlier.
"When he came through the door to that top step, I let go with the shot," White said, two months after killing 18-year-old Bronco Mosley and scaring off at least two accomplices. "I didn't have very much of a choice. I was nervous, but I knew what I had to do."
White called 911 and, as Mosley lay in his doorway, waited for police to finally arrive.
Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy did not charge White, explaining he was well within his rights when he shot Mosley, who he later learned was armed.
So, an armed perp broke in AT NIGHT with the TV light flickering. He knew someone was home at that time, and yet he still broke in. So his motivation was not just the acquisition of property, but something more sinister.
Good riddance, rest in hell.
Black on black ok, white on black not ok, white hispanic on black definitley not ok
Seriously, Detroit has never recovered from the 1967 riots and the subsequent annual Halloween arson 'celebrations' known as "Devil's Night". At some point, if not already, Detroit will serve as a case study in total urban disaster and government corruption!
In CA he would have had to prove there was a there was a threat of death or great bodily harm. Kicking in your door isn't always enough.
Detroit looks worse than Tikrit, Iraq.
At least they are rebuilding Tikrit...
Maybe not by itself but it goes a long way.
CAL. PEN. CODE § 197 : California Code - Section 197
Homicide is also justifiable when committed by any person in any of the following cases:
1.When resisting any attempt to murder any person, or to commit a felony, or to do some great bodily injury upon any person; or,
2.When committed in defense of habitation, property, or person, against one who manifestly intends or endeavors, by violence or surprise, to commit a felony, or against one who manifestly intends and endeavors, in a violent, riotous or tumultuous manner, to enter the habitation of another for the purpose of offering violence to any person therein; or,
3.When committed in the lawful defense of such person, or of a wife or husband, parent, child, master, mistress, or servant of such person, when there is reasonable ground to apprehend a design to commit a felony or to do some great bodily injury, and imminent danger of such design being accomplished; but such person, or the person in whose behalf the defense was made, if he was the assailant or engaged in mutual combat, must really and in good faith have endeavored to decline any further struggle before the homicide was committed; or,
4.When necessarily committed in attempting, by lawful ways and means, to apprehend any person for any felony committed, or in lawfully suppressing any riot, or in lawfully keeping and preserving the peace.
Another killing of a black by a White. /s
I wonder if the dead intruder looked like zero’s hypothetical son?
I guess we’ll never know.
I can’t find any photos of Bronco Mosley but the story about Tigh Croff is interesting. What kind of a moron does one have to be to commit a robbery at 53 years old.
>>Police say Croff chased down two men, but one man — 53-year-old Herbert Silas — didn’t get away. Reportedly, Silas turned to Croff and asked, “What are you going to do? Shoot me?” and Croff responded with a bullet to his chest.<<
Is he a member of the Fightin’ Whities? LOL!
Black courtesy phone? That's racist! /s
An “Escape From Detroit” movie in the making?
How about a “Grand Theft Auto: Deadly Detroit” video game?
Subtitle: “John Q. Public fights back. This time it’s personal!”
He kinda looks like Bo Diddley or maybe his brother!
I done been shot by Ray Charles.
And a WHITE courtesy phone would not be? Actually, I thought of that when I wrote my reply. An example of how "Political Correctness" can drive our thought patterns. Maybe I should have said plaid (no that is too scottish), gold (no that is too plutocratic), pink (you guess), red (too political), maroon (sounds too moron-ish), brown (just kidding) ... The possibilities cover the spectrum, don't they!
...but, but, but now you’ve mentioned so many colors that it’s almost like a RAINBOW! Holy crap, you know what that means! LOL
I suspect that there lots folks who “need killin’” in Detroit.
God bless and protect those brave enough to defend themselves, their families and their homes.
Jesse and Sham-ton aren't going to waste time on black on black crime - no guilty whites to shake-down - no 'wall to wall' media coverage...
"Take him to Detroit!"
“if you’re found here at night, you’ll be found here in the morning”
Seems the only mistake Mr White made was in not having his weapon fully loaded.
Tigh Croff did pretty good too, considering the fact that he chased the guy down, had a conversation with him and then killed him.
The judge only gave him two years and wrote an opinion complaining that the law didn’t make exceptions for cases like his.
But yeah, bottom line is with an 82.5% black population, all that black-on-black crime in Detroit really IS the reason for all those justifiable shootings.
Oh, look, somebody saw the 800 pound gorilla in the room! Look away, look away!
I blame it on Democrats.
Blacks didn’t live much different than whites before the democrats convinced them that they needed a different culture and that it needed to be restored through handouts.
Tigh Croff had little choice but to kill other than quitting his job and behaving like his neighbors. Seems that every time he went to work his house was broken into. I don’t blame him for chasing the thief down and killing him any more than I blame a rancher for hunting a predator killing his herd.
Thanks for posting this.
#1 and #3 are critical along with, “When he/she/it broke into my home, the last thing I remember was he/she/it saying they were going to kill my family and me!”
Agree 100%. Mr Croff was a victim, but because he was black, and because the perp was black this story won't get much press coverage. And because there are so many black criminals in Detroit, it's easier to make the case for legitimate self defense.
I wouldn't call myself "optimistic" about Detroit. But I have often iterated, if Detroit gets bad enough, there could very well occur a contagious outbreak of "Conservismitosis Majorous" that would not only save Detroit and help Michigan but rock the very foundation of the Democratic Party.
I fantasize about Detroit swinging hard right with a large majority of minorities expressing disdain for the years of liberal punishment they have endured. A Republican Detroit? It is a fantasy. I hope for the best but Detroit has been looted and plundered by the liberal machine and the Union thugs for so long.... short of starting over....I don't know. We'll see.
That's a shame. But I would rather have to try and explain it in court than have a bunch of politicians and beauracrats consider laws that would have saved my life after the fact.
I did a little reading on that case too. That is a tough one. I can see why he was charged and convicted. By law his actions were criminal. I would like to know more about the defense he put up in court. It sounds like, with the right attorney, it could have been a landmark case in pre-emptive self defense. He had been victimised many times (presumably by the same perps). If he could prove that he was reasonably sure it was the same guys that kept threatening him and that there was no expectation that anything would change (LEOs not able to do anything), then I logically decide that the only way to protect himself in the future was to apprehend or kill the perp(s) himself for the police. And apprehend Vs. kill may be the issue at the end of a chase. I do not know the specific details of how the footchase ended beyond a lethal shot to the chest.
BTW from what I’ve read, the perp chose to taunt Croff at the end of the chase.
I agree with what he did (however, taunting by itself is not justification for homicide). Instead, I would argue he was defending himself pre-emptively from being attacked again tomorrow or the next day.
It's like the idiot who keeps rebuilding his house next to a river that floods every 5 years. There is no proof of when the next flood will come. But the insurance company can tell you that history suggests it will happen again and you will eventually lose your house. They are justified in refusing to insure his house. This guy could prove there was a reasonable expectation that he'd be victimized again.
His defense of "self defense" starts when the perps start running away (sounds odd).