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Dems Applaud HHS Study That May Allow 'Low-Risk' Homosexuals to Donate Blood [Mega-Barf]
cnsnews.com ^ | June 14, 2012 | Penny Starr

Posted on 06/14/2012 9:48:20 AM PDT by fwdude

(CNSNews.com) – Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) and Rep. Mike Quigley (D-Ill.) sent a letter signed by 62 other Democrats to Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, supporting her agency's review of the policy that bans homosexual and bisexual men from donating blood.

The Democrats say the ban is “outdated,” and they called the HHS pilot study an important step in "assessing the feasibility of allowing healthy gay and bisexual men to donate blood while maintaining the safety of our blood supply."

“Patients across the country desperately need life-saving blood transfusions, yet perfectly healthy would-be donors are turned away based solely on sexual orientation,” Quigley said.

“Equality for the LGBT community is closer than ever but outdated and discriminatory policies like this must evolve to match advancements in science and technology.”

“We’ve been working on this a long time, and I applaud Secretary Sebelius for taking this important step toward ending the lifetime ban on gay men donating blood, and instead relying on the science of today, not the myths of twenty years ago,” Kerry said. “I’m confident that the findings of these new studies will pave the way to get this policy off the books.

The lawmakers said the study will at least provide an "informed evaluation" of what it will take to end the ban on homosexuals donating blood. Currently, any man who has had sex with another man since 1977 is banned for life from donating blood.

The HHS pilot study will look at alternative criteria for deferring donations from men who have sex with men.

In their letter, Kerry and Quigley asked HHS to explore ways of distinguishing "high-risk" homosexuals from "low-risk" homosexuals.

"For instance, the donor questionnaire could collect information on whether or not the donor is in a monogamous relationship or if the donor engages in effective preventive measures," the wrote. "In this way the donor questionnaire could assess the risk level of all potential donors, regardless of sexual orientation."

They also urged HHS to "be vigilant" in avoiding any "real or perceived unwarranted discriminatory treatment" of homosexuals in the process of conducting the pilot study.

This is the second letter Kerry and Quigley have sent to Sebelius urging a policy change on homosexual blood donors. The first was sent in June 2010.


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Words fail me.

Notice that the original proposal for a lengthy waiting period after the last homosexual "encounter" is now absent, and "how" homos engage in their behavior is now the focus.

1 posted on 06/14/2012 9:48:27 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: fwdude

May we please see John Kerry put his arm out for a safe gay blood transfusion to show the way?

Maybe from his (M)ass buddy Barney Frank?


2 posted on 06/14/2012 9:51:31 AM PDT by silverleaf (Every human spent about half an hour as a single cell)
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To: fwdude

The left is running low on radical AIDS victims to press for more funding to be sent to the DNC.
It’s just like they are running out of Homos in San Fran and need to teach it in school.
Even lab rats have higher moral values.


3 posted on 06/14/2012 9:52:46 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: fwdude

Who in H wants or needs their blood? Why do they want to “contribute” (i.e. pollute the pool)?


4 posted on 06/14/2012 9:53:23 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: shalom aleichem

Sure, they should be able to donate. To each other. Period.


5 posted on 06/14/2012 9:54:32 AM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: fwdude

NO.
A thousand times; NO.


6 posted on 06/14/2012 9:55:08 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: silverleaf

I’d like to see all ‘low risk sex offenders’ released into John F’n Kerry’s neighborhood.


7 posted on 06/14/2012 9:56:04 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: fwdude

I wanted to comment, but I don’t know what to say. I am utterly speechless. Have a good day.


8 posted on 06/14/2012 9:56:39 AM PDT by BRK
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To: fwdude
In their letter, Kerry and Quigley asked HHS to explore ways of distinguishing "high-risk" homosexuals from "low-risk" homosexuals.

Another attempt to 'normalize' homosexuality. The next thing will be a squabble over the definition of high vs. low risk followed by handwringing over the horror/shame/discrimination of being labeled high risk .... so to avoid hurt feelings and potential discrimination there will be no risk assigned and the general population will be the ones 'at risk'.

9 posted on 06/14/2012 9:57:04 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: fwdude

I thought it takes the HIV virus six months to show up in tests to be sure whether or not the blood is contaminated. Or is my information ‘outdated’ as well?

This has to be a stealth population control technique or something to reduce the ‘surplus’ population.


10 posted on 06/14/2012 9:57:41 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (The GOPe has played us like a violin for the last time; high time to build the Constitution Party.)
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To: shalom aleichem

This is too timely. I donated plasma at work on Tuesday, and I was thinking about this very thing as I read through the “checklist” they give you.

One of the disqualifying questions reads, “*For Men* Have you ever had ANY sexual encounter with another man.” If you answer yes, you’re done. There are numerous gay men in this organization, and I’ve seen every single one of them donate blood at some point. They aren’t afraid to say they’re gay, but they lie on a blood screening, presumably to get a free HIV/AIDS/Hepatitis test. Sick!

So essentially they’re asking blood banks everywhere to spend more money on supplies and permit gays to donate despite the higher incidence of HIV/AIDS and hepatitis among gay men. Thus, blood banks are going to be wasting their time, money, and equipment to take blood and then have to throw it out because it’s contaminated.

Disgusting.


11 posted on 06/14/2012 9:58:26 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: fwdude

So they admit there is a risk.

Now, what is a low risk homersexual?


12 posted on 06/14/2012 9:58:26 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( (Lord, save me from some conservatives, they don't understand history any better than liberals.))
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To: fwdude

“Patients across the country desperately need life-saving blood transfusions, yet perfectly healthy would-be donors are turned away based solely on sexual orientation,” Quigley said.


Another lie, they are turned away because of a HEALTH RISK.


13 posted on 06/14/2012 9:59:55 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( (Lord, save me from some conservatives, they don't understand history any better than liberals.))
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To: fwdude

Stinkin’ BASTARDS!!!


14 posted on 06/14/2012 10:00:30 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: fwdude

I had several blood transfusions in the early 80s due to major surgeries. To this day I have nightmares that eventually a test will turn up positive.

People advocating for homosexuals to donate blood should be tried and sentenced for endangering public health. And if they get their wish and someone turns a positive, then murder charges should be forthcoming.


15 posted on 06/14/2012 10:01:35 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: shalom aleichem
Why do they want to “contribute” (i.e. pollute the pool)?

For exactly the same reason they want "marriage" - to upset the applecart for everyone else.

16 posted on 06/14/2012 10:01:52 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: fwdude
Absolute insanity! If this passes, I would not accept a transfusion of other than my own or a close family member's blood. To do otherwise would be sheer Russian roulette. 



Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

17 posted on 06/14/2012 10:04:37 AM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: MichaelCorleone
I thought it takes the HIV virus six months to show up in tests to be sure whether or not the blood is contaminated. Or is my information ‘outdated’ as well?

Yes. Truth and plain common sense is outdated as well.

18 posted on 06/14/2012 10:05:14 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: married21
Sure, they should be able to donate. To each other. Period.

Gay guys are already donating sperm to each other.
19 posted on 06/14/2012 10:06:31 AM PDT by crosshairs
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To: fwdude

Message to Romney: Attack Sebelius. Attack. Attack. Attack.


20 posted on 06/14/2012 10:06:40 AM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: fwdude

these people are just insane


21 posted on 06/14/2012 10:07:32 AM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 0bie don' t eat my dog!)
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To: fwdude

You know....we need to start a blood bank of VERY CLEAN living individuals who want to share their blood among each other...we tried giving blood for a friend, but were told it would just go into the POOL (the blood bank)....and that you couldn’t give your blood specifically to a certain person...this is WRONG.


22 posted on 06/14/2012 10:07:45 AM PDT by goodnesswins (What has happened to America?)
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To: fwdude

there is a gap between what We the People would define as “success” in the HIV epidemic...and what OUR RMPLOYEES in DC would define as “success”...for them....more cases =success.

That gap is the measure of the lack of accountability to us that We the People have allowed to occur.


23 posted on 06/14/2012 10:07:45 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: fwdude

They have been effectively been doing this in CA for some time. When I lived there (moved to a red state since then), I noted the following change of routine when I gave blood.

I was taken to a private place - where I could be alone behind a curtain - and counseled. I was given a sheet with two sets of barcodes - one code indicating that as far as I knew my blood was good, another not to use my blood. Alone, I was to put the barcode on my blood bag - so a casual observer would not know if my choice were a yes or no. In private, I dispensed of the sheet, minus my barcode in a covered garbage can - so the workers would not know my choice.

I figured this was done so that those who knew they had bad blood (AIDS, whatever) could go through all the motions of giving blood without their friends being any wiser to their true condtion.

That was about ten years ago.


24 posted on 06/14/2012 10:09:15 AM PDT by NEWwoman (God Bless America)
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To: fwdude

there is no low risk homosexuals.


25 posted on 06/14/2012 10:09:35 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: fwdude

How many people have to die so that Homosexual men can feel better about themselves? And we all know that if anyone really dies as a result of this, it will be hushed up. After all, when it comes to Homosexual feelings, we’re all expendable.


26 posted on 06/14/2012 10:10:02 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: goodnesswins
...we need to start a blood bank of VERY CLEAN living individuals who want to share their blood among each other...

It would be found "unconstitutional" by the Court of the New Zeitgeist.

27 posted on 06/14/2012 10:10:22 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: silverleaf

“May we please see John Kerry put his arm out for a safe gay blood transfusion to show the way?”

Great idea.

Let’s just make a special blood pool for all the dim-bulb-crats...only they can use gay blood.


28 posted on 06/14/2012 10:10:22 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: fwdude

I love it when people ask me if I would contribute to “AIDS” whatever whatever. I tell them that there’s already a perfectly good AIDS vaccine available, and my wife and I were inoculated down at our church.

Does anyone have links to data showing the % difference between homos and normal people when it comes to different diseases? Seems to me I saw somewhere that homos were >500x as likely to catch STD’s than heterosexuals.


29 posted on 06/14/2012 10:14:45 AM PDT by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: fwdude

What will it take for America to stand up to the gaystapo? Perhaps when the govt mandates gay relationships upon straight people?


30 posted on 06/14/2012 10:15:14 AM PDT by rhinohunter (DraftWalkerNow!)
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To: Norm Lenhart
I had several blood transfusions in the early 80s due to major surgeries. To this day I have nightmares that eventually a test will turn up positive.

You don't have HIV...probably been dead by now if you did. HIV turns to Aids usually 5-10 years.

HIV would not be hiding in you for after 25+ years...

31 posted on 06/14/2012 10:15:55 AM PDT by trailhkr1 (All you need to know about Zimmerman, innocent = riots, manslaughter = riots, guilty = riots)
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To: fwdude

Oh okay NOW I support 0bamacare. /s LOL! What is with the Democrat’s OBSESSION with 2% of the population?


32 posted on 06/14/2012 10:16:07 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: fwdude; All
F**k that...

I lost two good friends to the Great Hemophiliac Genocide of the late 80’s, early 90’s, due to AIDS-tainted blood.

Around 200,000 Americans died because of this, but because the queers are a protected political class, that votes Democrat and runs much of today's media, it's just too politically-incorrect to talk about, OR EVEN MENTION

33 posted on 06/14/2012 10:16:16 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: rarestia
Right, all they have to do is lie on the pre question screening and they can give blood. Now to my knowledge they screen all blood they gather for STD’s if someone is found to have an STD then they may not actually discard this blood but rather use to for transfusion of people with like illnesses. It's still really gross to think about though because everyone makes mistakes when handling this stuff.

Pretty soon gays and lesbians will be permitted to go around the workplace and do whatever they like i.e. harass, wear revealing clothing and what not just because the libs will have them protected from discrimination somehow. It will get worse before they all get shoved back in the closet.

34 posted on 06/14/2012 10:16:45 AM PDT by 3rdcoastislander
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To: NEWwoman
They used to do that in my area (have the donor put the barcode on the bag) but they stopped some time ago.

The proposed change is insane. It's all about the political clout of gay activists and wanting them to donate generously to Obama's re-election.

35 posted on 06/14/2012 10:20:40 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: rhinohunter
What will it take for America to stand up to the gaystapo?

Well, even the current GOP-e and their poster boy Romney won't lift a finger to stand up to them. What hope do we have except to annihilate this pathetic excuse of a Party for a conservative alternative?

36 posted on 06/14/2012 10:21:19 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: trailhkr1

Oh I’m well aware of the timelines etc. Still makes me nervous regardless. Several years of doctors drilling into me the concept of “Don’t stop getting tested” back before they got a handle on it sticks with you.

Once the transmission vectors became widely known, a lot of people in my position (transfusions from a potentially contaminated blood supply) back then were pooping bricks.


37 posted on 06/14/2012 10:21:32 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: fwdude
Over the years I donated five gallons of my blood. That came to a stop because of my work in countries where malaria is prevalent. Nobody ever asked me “when was the last time you were bitten by an Anopheles mosquito?” Merely being “in country” meant they didn't want my blood. These Bozos spend their lives (exposed to HIV) “in country,” but it's OK for them to donate blood? Makes no sense.
38 posted on 06/14/2012 10:23:10 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: fwdude

Piercings are not allowed but this is. Unbelievable.


39 posted on 06/14/2012 10:23:21 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: fwdude

Piercings are not allowed but this is. Unbelievable.


40 posted on 06/14/2012 10:23:40 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: fwdude

Isn’t all donated blood tested for HIV?


41 posted on 06/14/2012 10:24:10 AM PDT by Raebie (WS)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
We should be INFORMED before accepting any transfusion.

Allowing homosexual blood into the supply chain without warning the downstream customers is criminally insane.

42 posted on 06/14/2012 10:25:01 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: 3rdcoastislander

I had to get vaccinated for Hepatitis C before matriculating to college. I gave blood sometime shortly after the last dose, and my blood was flagged. I went back to donate a few months later, and they actually would not allow me to donate; my name was flagged.

I called the blood service to inquire, and I had to go to their downtown headquarters, sit in a room and have a nurse condescend to me for having Hepatitis C. I asked her, “Do you check for Hep C or the antibodies?”

“Antibodies.”

“Well, I was vaccinated for Hep C prior to college. Would that show up as the same?”

“Oh... well, yes. I suppose it would.”

I was allowed to donate again from that point on. However, if this was a homosexual with HIV/AIDS, they would likely never be able to donate unless they provided fake identity information during the pre-donation screening.

I will give gay men one thing: they’re almost always thin and dress well. I’m 6’2”, 325 lb. and can’t tell the difference between my blue socks and my black ones. I often find myself wearing one of each. At least I never get hit on by them!


43 posted on 06/14/2012 10:25:16 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

As an 18 gal. donor I know the drill. Last year I saw one of our local militant gay activists donating. This is a flaming homo who wears a shirt that says “smile if you like getting it in the ass” I turned him in.


44 posted on 06/14/2012 10:25:47 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Piercings AND tattoos are disallowed for 12 months after receiving one.

Also, anyone who has been in the general population of their county or state prison for more than a few weeks is disqualified.


45 posted on 06/14/2012 10:27:13 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: fwdude

If the Homo’s can give blood why can’t the Cancer patients?

I never heard of anyone contracting Cancer from a transfusion.


46 posted on 06/14/2012 10:28:27 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: fwdude; All
The only hope is that these studies usually take many months, if not years, to conduct and analyze and this Administration is hopefully reaching its expiration date very soon.

Pray that the next administration and congress will have the plain common sense and sanity to undo all of these proposals, but I have exactly ZERO faith in Romney doing so.

47 posted on 06/14/2012 10:29:14 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: CrazyIvan

It’s devastating to the quality and integrity of the regional blood supply if HIV/AIDS/Hepatitis infected blood is allowed into the system. By pre-screening homosexuals, they’re eliminating a large portion of the risk.

Homosexuals think they’ll just donate to get tested. If they turn up positive, they’ll know. If they don’t, they feel like they’ve “given back” to the community.

Like some have said, HIV/AIDS can take months to show up in standard blood panels, and as such, someone could contract the disease from a tainted blood transfusion.


48 posted on 06/14/2012 10:31:48 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: fwdude

It was just this morning that my local blood bank emailed asking me to schedule another donation. I think that I’ll ask them what their plans are to counter this.

If homos are allowed to contaminate the pool then I will stop donating - and I’m a 2-gallon guy.


49 posted on 06/14/2012 10:32:03 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Raebie
Isn’t all donated blood tested for HIV?

From my understanding, there is an initial cursory test for HIV. But it is a fact that there is an "occult" period after initial infection during which the virus is virtually undetectable.

In fact, the latest goal of HIV infected homosexuals is to get their viral load down to "undetectable levels."

Kind of horrifying, isn't it?

50 posted on 06/14/2012 10:32:34 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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