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What 8th-Graders Were Expected to Know in 1910
Eagle Forum ^ | July 2004 | Staff

Posted on 06/14/2012 12:42:52 PM PDT by QT3.14

The following 8th-grade exit exam materials for Washington state in 1910....

(Excerpt) Read more at eagleforum.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: education; school; testing; washington
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1 posted on 06/14/2012 12:42:57 PM PDT by QT3.14
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To: QT3.14

And the answer for 2012 is?


2 posted on 06/14/2012 12:44:30 PM PDT by QT3.14 (Never Argue With A LIBERAL...They Will Drag You Down To Their Level, Then Beat You With Experience!)
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To: QT3.14

“What causes the difference in climate between Eastern and Western Washington? “

WHAT???? you mean geography plays a role in climet???? Heaven forfend


3 posted on 06/14/2012 12:49:07 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: QT3.14
Political correctness...global warming......tolerance....the gay life-style...
proper application of a condom....etc.
4 posted on 06/14/2012 12:49:11 PM PDT by QT3.14 (Never Argue With A LIBERAL...They Will Drag You Down To Their Level, Then Beat You With Experience!)
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To: QT3.14

That’s racist and possibly sexist!

/sarcasm


5 posted on 06/14/2012 12:49:18 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt the Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: QT3.14

I noticed that there were no questions regarding LGBTQ history or how to put on a condom.


6 posted on 06/14/2012 12:50:35 PM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: QT3.14

Many 8th graders now couldn’t even interpret the questions, much less answer them.


7 posted on 06/14/2012 12:52:12 PM PDT by BelegStrongbow (St. Joseph, patron of fathers, pray for us!)
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To: QT3.14

‘A gardener sells his celery for 8 1/3 cents per bunch. How many bunches should he give for $5.00?’

LOL, thats when money was worth something!

Nice test but how could it possibly apply today? First, it requires work which is anathema. Second it might result in failure and we couldnt have that! Third there’s not enough time left over from doing the self esteem lessons. We’re ALL winners you know.... LOL, they really were the good ole days....well at least not so politically correct.


8 posted on 06/14/2012 12:52:33 PM PDT by 556x45
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To: QT3.14

What’s a Puritns?


9 posted on 06/14/2012 12:53:15 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: QT3.14

I have a 1979 WA history text book (for public screwel children). Among the over-emphasized minorities are Jews. How things have changed.


10 posted on 06/14/2012 12:53:47 PM PDT by matt1234 (Bring back the HUAC.)
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To: prisoner6
That’s racist and possibly sexist! /sarcasm

Proud European-American Honky Cracka! /sarc

11 posted on 06/14/2012 12:58:49 PM PDT by QT3.14 (Never Argue With A LIBERAL...They Will Drag You Down To Their Level, Then Beat You With Experience!)
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To: QT3.14

People seem to think education and intelligence are synonymous. An eight grade student back then is about equivalent to a first year college student today . Maybe. Could be even higher too. Look at what passes for a college grad today. They might just be able to parse a verb or even balance their checkbook although I doubt it.


12 posted on 06/14/2012 1:00:22 PM PDT by SkyDancer
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To: Nifster
What causes the difference in climate between Eastern and Western Washington?

These are just as much gimme questions as anything today. Especially that one. The answer is: Duh! Big ol' mountain range in the middle.

13 posted on 06/14/2012 1:04:44 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: AngieGal

ping


14 posted on 06/14/2012 1:05:01 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: QT3.14

Wow. I think I could pass it but not easily (especially if there was a short time limit).


15 posted on 06/14/2012 1:05:19 PM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: QT3.14
In 1910, less than 10% of Americans went on to high school, which was considered a college preparatory level of schooling.

Most Americans were not expected to progress beyond eighth grade and they often graduated from eight grade at an older age than the age of 13 common today.

The notion of high school as being a standard level of education for all adults dates to the 1930s-1940s.

16 posted on 06/14/2012 1:06:34 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Nifster

“What causes the difference in climate between Eastern and Western Washington?”

All the Speechifying from the politicians.


17 posted on 06/14/2012 1:06:56 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: QT3.14

It’s clear that the WA schools were much more demanding in 1910, but how was the self esteem of the students? It was clearly possible that this test could pose a substantial threat to the self esteem of any student who wasn’t applying himself in school.

Prior to about 1910, 8th grade was often the highest grade attended by boys of working class families. In my family, in rural PA, the girls went on to finish high school and normal school. the boys went to work.


18 posted on 06/14/2012 1:08:07 PM PDT by Eva
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To: QT3.14

mooses


19 posted on 06/14/2012 1:08:43 PM PDT by bgill
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To: SkyDancer

General Question 6. If you succeed in obtaining an eighth grade diploma, do you expect to attend school next term? Where?
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Answer: University of Washington

I suspect that only a minority of high school seniors today could pass such an exam. Expectations sure have plummeted.


20 posted on 06/14/2012 1:09:27 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: QT3.14

Orthography #7 need to add (for the benefit of MANY Freepers) lose, loose ;^)


21 posted on 06/14/2012 1:09:54 PM PDT by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: QT3.14

I got 100% on the spelling part!


22 posted on 06/14/2012 1:10:10 PM PDT by ShasheMac
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To: QT3.14

In 2010, Barack Obama called for fixing the public education system by giving us the Elementary and Secondary Education Act and “Race to the Top,” which he said would fix the education system already fixed by the 2001 GW Bush and Ted Kennedy legislation called “No Child Left Behind,” which was supposed to fix a system supposedly already fixed by a 1994 piece of federal legislation called “Goals 2000,” which was supposed to fix a system already fixed by “America 2000,” which was a 1991 response during the Bush administration to a 1983 federal report on education called “A Nation at Risk, which was published a full four years after Jimmy Carter first fixed the nation’s public school system by establishing a cabinet-level Department of Education in 1979.


23 posted on 06/14/2012 1:10:29 PM PDT by Maceman
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To: QT3.14

Haven’t all these been thoroughly debunked already? Pretty sure.


24 posted on 06/14/2012 1:11:05 PM PDT by discostu (Listen, do you smell something?)
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To: QT3.14

Sure, they know the important stuff - but can they log into FaceBook?


25 posted on 06/14/2012 1:11:15 PM PDT by Hodar (Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see.- A. Schopenhauer)
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To: bgill

“mooses”
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No, silly.....meeses


26 posted on 06/14/2012 1:11:18 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: QT3.14

I still had to know much of the same body of knowledge in 1951.

And I did. I passed a similar battery of tests for eighth grade promotion with not merely passing scores, or good scores, but with an “A+” in each category - one of four students in the entire county to achieve that level.

Got branded as the “smart kid” all through high school.

Not an easy crown to wear.

“Cutie pi”? Cripes.


27 posted on 06/14/2012 1:13:54 PM PDT by alloysteel (Fear and intimidation work. At least on the short term.)
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To: House Atreides

I stand corrected.


28 posted on 06/14/2012 1:14:14 PM PDT by bgill
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To: Age of Reason
What’s a Puritns?

I'm hoping he meant "Puritans". Must be the invisible 'a' that is distantly related to the silent 'e'.

29 posted on 06/14/2012 1:15:13 PM PDT by Hodar (Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see.- A. Schopenhauer)
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To: House Atreides

“mooses”
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No, silly.....meeses

Many much moosen!!!!!


30 posted on 06/14/2012 1:16:07 PM PDT by henkster (Wanted: Politicians willing to say "No" to people. No experience required.)
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To: QT3.14

I would be interested in seeing, how many journalists today, could pass that Grammar Test.


31 posted on 06/14/2012 1:16:13 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: QT3.14

I doubt that many college educated today could answer all those questions........................


32 posted on 06/14/2012 1:18:28 PM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: QT3.14

I took the GMAT a few weeks back ... that was harder than the GMAT.


33 posted on 06/14/2012 1:18:49 PM PDT by RainMan (2016 is a lonnng ways away. Support your local conservatives)
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To: wideawake

Today the ‘education system’ is geared toward producing functional illiterates capable of barely supporting themselves at menial labor, of which there is little available.

Reminds me of the Epsilon Double Minus Caste in “Brave New World”.......................


34 posted on 06/14/2012 1:24:11 PM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: QT3.14

Here it is for 2012:

1. Name three of the hundreds of ways George W. Bush personally destroyed the American economy in 2008.

2. Describe how this country’s Pledge of Allegiance discriminates against free-thinking people who correctly believe humankind is, always was and always will be the highest form of life.

3. What is the preamble to the United Nations charter?

4. Describe one of the many reasons a sharing, communal, sustainable lifestyle is vastly superior to the selfishness of earth-destroying suburban settings.

5. When you have your first gay experience, will you first: 1) Announce it on Facebook, 2) Gleefully inform your adult life-partner parental figures, or 3) Organize a Pride parade?

6. Are you forced to attend an intolerant, hateful, racist Christian church, and if so, what are the names and home addresses of anyone speaking out against diverse lifestyles?


35 posted on 06/14/2012 1:24:45 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: Melas

and you would get partial credit for that answer. You also have the fact that Eastern WA is a desert plateau with a significantly higher average elevation than Western WA, and specifically from a climate standpoint, Western WA gets marine effect, where Eastern WA gets hit by winds from central Alberta at some points of the year, and eastern Oregon at other times of the year.


36 posted on 06/14/2012 1:25:54 PM PDT by RainMan (2016 is a lonnng ways away. Support your local conservatives)
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To: wideawake

Being superseded by the college education for standard adults being the presumption today. As Dennis Prager has said sadly, many if not most of today’s colleges makes individuals stupider instead of smarter.


37 posted on 06/14/2012 1:26:59 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: Red Badger

“I doubt that many college educated today could answer all those questions........................”

It took me a couple of minutes to figure out the fifth “great nation” of Europe....


38 posted on 06/14/2012 1:29:03 PM PDT by JoeDetweiler
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To: JoeDetweiler

Remember, in 1910 the nations that existed on the European continent are not the same as today.....................


39 posted on 06/14/2012 1:31:15 PM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: JoeDetweiler

Europe 1910

40 posted on 06/14/2012 1:32:41 PM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: QT3.14

Yeah...but I bet they didn’t know that Sally had two daddies or how to put on a condom.


41 posted on 06/14/2012 1:33:41 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: Red Badger

Yes, Austria Hungary was the tricky one. I kept thinking...Spain? No. Italy? No.....


42 posted on 06/14/2012 1:37:19 PM PDT by JoeDetweiler
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To: wideawake

‘...The notion of high school as being a standard level of education for all adults dates to the 1930s-1940s....”

And it’s a standard that libs work constantly to make sure will never be met.


43 posted on 06/14/2012 1:38:27 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Melas

But of course... I was just suggesting that if climate is influenced by geographic input perhaps the AGW folks need to reevaluate.... I didn’t really need a sarcasm tag did I?


44 posted on 06/14/2012 1:42:05 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: forgotten man
I noticed that there were no questions regarding LGBTQ history or how to put on a condom.

I noticed that there were no questions regarding how the muzzies contributed to the founding of America.

45 posted on 06/14/2012 1:45:37 PM PDT by redshawk (0pansy is a Liar and Hates.........he just hates!)
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To: Melas
Yeah, perhaps a gimme question. However, I'd bet not too many 8th grade kids today could answer that question without access to the internet. Even then, I’d bet they don't understand the basic mechanics.
46 posted on 06/14/2012 1:51:45 PM PDT by redshawk (0pansy is a Liar and Hates.........he just hates!)
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To: QT3.14

I dunno. Sounds lika an urban ledgend to me.

As soon as I hear Neal Bootz talk about it on his show, I’ll know it’s a scam.


47 posted on 06/14/2012 1:52:29 PM PDT by Fido969
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To: QT3.14

I learned in 5th grade in my rural Michigan schoolhouse that Presidents never bow to Kings.


48 posted on 06/14/2012 1:54:40 PM PDT by cookcounty ("We're all born idiots, and we only get over that condition as we get less young." -J Goldberg)
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To: Red Badger

The WA State Superintendent of Schools, Randy Dorn, is a former organizer for the SEIU and headed up a new branch of the SEIU for WA State. He won election by getting the Indian tribes to run the attack ads on the past Superintendent of Schools.

What type of priorities would you expect from a former SEIU organizer? He’s running for re-election this year, too.


49 posted on 06/14/2012 1:56:29 PM PDT by Eva
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To: alloysteel
snip...“Cutie pi”? Cripes.

You must be from the 3.14 family of cuties.

50 posted on 06/14/2012 1:57:06 PM PDT by redshawk (0pansy is a Liar and Hates.........he just hates!)
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