Grassley to Holder: Prove claim about Bush-era gun probe

The Washington Times ^ | 14 June, 2012 | Jerry Seper

[marktwain]

Could Eric Holder be sued for slander for this contention?

[marktwain]

Gunwalker / Murdergate ping.

[duckman]

“Wide Receiver, during which he said 300 weapons were “walked” into Mexico.”
It’s my understanding that WR was different, since the US worked with the Mexican govt to ‘control’ the arms. Holder is twisting the truth a bit.

[liberalh8ter]

Holder’s just following Bammy’s lead. You can bet if the Bush admin was walking guns to Mexico and depositing them in the hands of cartels, the Obama administration would have ‘leaked’ that evidence long ago.

[Arm_Bears]

Grassley’s a racist in 3 . . . 2 . . . 1 . . .

[Michael.SF.]

Holder is twisting the truth a bit.

Holder's testimony has more twists in it than a Hank Ballard concert (the original Chubby Checker).

Strange defense also; Going from it is all George Bush's fault to: Hey it was good enough for George, why pick on me?

[txrangerette]

Michael Mukasey would have to be the one to file a slander suit.

He isn’t the type, imo.

He was a very respected judge prior to becoming Bush’s last AG, and appears to be a dignified and scholarly individual.

But as to the general point you make, this imo is slanderous if indeed Holder knows better or is in a position to know better.

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[Raycpa]

If true, he knows nothing about gun walking by his subordinates but knows plenty about gun walking by his predecessor. Interesting lack of focus on his assigned duties.

[BillyBonebrake]

Eric Holder was just repeating what he read at Talking Points Memo. So yeah, he’s liable for slander. Certainly.

[Marathoner]

I swear, this entire administration is the biggest bunch of babies I’ve ever seen. Nothing is EVER their fault. Makes me want to puke.

[Reo]

"He isn’t the type, imo"

Agreed. Mukasey's to much of a class act for that. But he has written some very strong and good op ed pieces in the WSJ. If this charge is as hollow as Holder and Obama, I would expect a direct and strong response from Mr. Mukasey in short order.

[Erik Latranyi]

It’s my understanding that WR was different, since the US worked with the Mexican govt to ‘control’ the arms. Holder is twisting the truth a bit.

WR was very different and Holder is butchering the truth.

WR was coordinated with the Mexican gov't. Most of the firearms were equipped with GPS tracking.

There was an instance where a straw buyer with 300 firearms supposedly crossed the border and the Mexicans (who were told he was coming) failed to stop him and the firearms got away.

At that point, Murkowski shut the program down.

This is absolutely contrary to Fast & Furious where there was no effort to track the firearms, no effort to coordinate with Mexican officals and no desire to stop the program until the heat from Brian Terry's death ramped up.

But Holder's accusation is meant for his most stubborn supporters who will take that claim and regurgitate it over and over again as if it was truth.

[originalbuckeye]

IIRC, Wide Receiver was done in conjunction with the Mexican Govt. It was 200 weapons with tracking devices attached. When they found they couldn't accurately track these weapons IT WAS SHUT DOWN. Fast and Furious was NOTHING like the Bush project. Holder knows he is lying and knows Big Media will not report them as lies. And Solyndra was denied Govt money under the Bush Admin. ‘the Bush Admin approved it’....... Another bald faced lie that Obama and his cronies promote. AND the 2009 budget with all the earmarks that was approved with Obama saying ‘it's Bush's Budget’. Someone needs to shout from the rooftops about all the lying. Any Republican of stature and visibility that will do it?

[No Truce With Kings]

“Could Eric Holder be sued for slander for this contention?”

Anyone can sue anyone for anything, so technically the answer is yes. However, the former AG is a public figure. That means a much higher standard is needed to prove slander — actual malice and actual harm. Both are high bars, especially the “actual harm” standard. You would have to prove that people really believed Holder’s claim, among other things. I think that would be a deal breaker

[Norm Lenhart]

“Agreed. Mukasey’s to much of a class act for that. “

I really wish some of the Bush staff that this admin has demonized would stop being class acts, take some pride in themselves and stop allowing their names to be turned into the 2012 version of Atillia the Hun.

If they fought back once in a while, the Dems wouldn’t use slandering republicans as the go-to option on each issue.

[Doogle]

...more aggressive programs going after gun owners started back when Holder was just another attorney in the DOJ under clitoon. He was involved up to his neck with scheme after scheme designed to take away rights. The Bush administration denied Holders attempt to continue what Holder was used to under clintoon.

[Joe Boucher]

ould Holder be hung for sedition?
Bastard has tried to circumvent the U.S> Constitution through F & F.

[Texas Fossil]

Fast and Furious was an attempt by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) to allow straw buyers in Arizona to walk weapons into Mexico with a goal of tracking them to drug cartel leaders.

Everyone knows that is a total Lie. That was never the intent. Only the MSM has the gall to make that statement. NO ONE who have followed this honestly believes that.

The intent was to cook the numbers to justify increased gun control in the US.....

[muawiyah]

Prol, not. This was inside the "precincts of Congress" and this was an interview regarding possible crimes that may have been commited.

Now that doesnt' mean you can't file suit but the judges will laugh.