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Romney: Obama immigration move makes long term fix harder
cnn ^ | 6-15-12 | Romney

Posted on 06/15/2012 2:02:30 PM PDT by Mozilla

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To: Mozilla; Cincinatus' Wife; atc23

We’ve been down this road before and you are tone deaf on it so I expect nothing.

Perry is not for a national dream act but for states rights to do as they think best about all these children dumped on them by federal failure to secure the border.

His plan to secure to border was endorsed by Joe Arpaio.

He refused to talk about immigration reform until the border was secure and said within one year of taking office he would have the border secured.

But you would rather repeat distortions.

Most certainly Perry was not for the President whether named Romney or Obama making up immigration policy by executive fiat.

He is a states rights guy.

Truth.


51 posted on 06/15/2012 3:03:57 PM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: Mozilla

52 posted on 06/15/2012 3:16:13 PM PDT by tumblindice (Our new, happy lives.)
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To: stanne
We’re going to be able to get Hispanic voters,” Mr. Romney said at the private event, which was overheard by a reporter for the Wall Street Journal. “We’re going to overcome the issue of immigration.”

This is the problem with Romney. He's playing the progressive game and he'll end up losing. He has a chance here to draw a line and distinguish himself from Choomer and he blows it. He should put out a statement pointing out the cynical plan 0bama is pushing, and issue a statement that he refuses to divide America into groups. I don't know how to word it, but he has some highly paid people on the campaign that can formulate a good message out of this. If he's just going to say "me too but not as much", we as a country lose

53 posted on 06/15/2012 3:17:29 PM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: Mozilla; All

And some of you think Romney will be an improvement over Obama.


54 posted on 06/15/2012 3:18:46 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: fatnotlazy
And some of you think Romney will be an improvement over Obama.

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Not me.

55 posted on 06/15/2012 3:20:46 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Mozilla

They also were mad at Newt for saying that people who had lived in the U.S. for 25 years could stay. At least most of those people would have been leaving the job market. Instead, we will now have a ton of young illegals competing for jobs with the college idiots who just paid $200,000 for college. The GOP and the Democrats suck. Throw the bums out.


56 posted on 06/15/2012 3:21:15 PM PDT by Windy City Conservative (Kyle Smith)
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To: ilgipper
There are good solutions to the illegals issue other than mass deportation, and Romney is positioned to find it, if he so chooses.

No mass deportation, rather SELF deportation. It works if it's tried.

57 posted on 06/15/2012 3:22:06 PM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: trisham

The chickens from GOP fecklessness is coming home...to roost.


58 posted on 06/15/2012 3:24:45 PM PDT by Windy City Conservative (Kyle Smith)
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To: DonPaulJonesII; ilgipper

Hey, I’m from IL too. We aren’t all Romney Kool-Aid drinkers. My dad came from the Dixon area. True Reagan country. He’s with the Lord now, and he’s probably averting his eyes in shock from this wholesale abandonment of the rule of law we’re living through today. And everytime I think of that, I think about that man of lawlessness predicted in Scripture. I’m not saying it’s anyone in particular. But there certainly seems to be more than enough candidates who would fit that bill.


59 posted on 06/15/2012 3:26:26 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Windy City Conservative

There have been a number of FReepers recently who have suggested that Romney may/will choose Rubio as VP. I am taking those statements much more seriously now than I did previously.


60 posted on 06/15/2012 3:28:29 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: fatnotlazy
And by saying that you think Romney is a closet liberal and won't vote for him, they will say that you love Obama and that you plan to vote for him .... We have some real idiots on FR lately. "We're going to be able to get Hispanic voters," Mr. Romney said ..." If you're talking about the illegals, too bad they don't really vote, Mittens, anymore than they cooperate with the census. But conservatives do vote and you won't get mine, you lefty fraud.
61 posted on 06/15/2012 3:30:28 PM PDT by tumblindice (Our new, happy lives.)
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To: cripplecreek

I’m thinking `Butch’ Kagan must have squealed to her Master that the Supremes have held for Arizona, and Zero is taking a preemptive strike.
Let’s see if the holding comes out soon, within the next few days.


62 posted on 06/15/2012 3:35:28 PM PDT by tumblindice (Our new, happy lives.)
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To: All

Instead of just reacting off of the headline, read the article. Romney disagrees with Obama on this issue.


63 posted on 06/15/2012 3:37:46 PM PDT by Signalman ( November, 2012-The End of an Error)
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To: SatinDoll

http://www.city-data.com/city/Lamont-California.html

That is the small town I grew up in. Check out the demographics. 30 yrs ago it was mostly white farmers. What do you think the additional illegals are gonna do to their already 40% unemployment? That’s right, I said 40%. And every single one of them has kids on food stamps, WIC, medical, and cash aid.


64 posted on 06/15/2012 3:39:35 PM PDT by sheana
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To: shalom aleichem

Mozilla, why don’t you post the actual title of the article which is:

Romney: Obama immigration move makes long term fix harder


65 posted on 06/15/2012 3:39:58 PM PDT by Signalman ( November, 2012-The End of an Error)
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To: Signalman

I think it’s pretty obvious now that we nominated the wrong guy. He spent all day trying to come up with a response to this, and all he could do was take the Marco Rubio line. Compassionate Conservativism has just become even more compassionate. Looks like Obama’s going to have this one in the bag if every unconstitutional move he makes is understandable to Romney.


66 posted on 06/15/2012 3:50:52 PM PDT by Windy City Conservative (Kyle Smith)
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To: atc23
Well done, Barack Obama - he set a bear trap and Romney stepped right in. Correct response is a laser focus on an unconstitutional act by the president and enforcement of immigration laws currently on the books

Spot on. I listened to Romney driving home and nearly drove off the road. He fell...no, leaped...right into the trap. He twisted himself into a pretzel not wanting to say he disagreed with Obama's "policy" for fear of offending that huge, massive, nonexistent Republican hispanic vote. He should have said "Whatever one thinks about illegal immigration and how to solve it, step one begins in Congress -- the legislative branch -- and not with the decree of one man. We are not a monarchy, but a free republic. The president is to enforce the laws passed by Congress, not write his own."

He can still pull this out of a tailspin, but had better get it together quickly. Put the focus on the tyrant, not the tyranny du jour.
67 posted on 06/15/2012 3:51:05 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: tumblindice

I wondered the same thing. To do this on a Friday morning? It had to be prompted by a furtive phone call from Supreme Court Justice Rosa Kleb.


68 posted on 06/15/2012 3:54:28 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: Mozilla

We can “USE Romney” when he is President to expose him and his establishment Agenda 21 CFR Globalists for what they really are. At the same time, we will deny the communist dictator a chance to be “flexible” for Putin.

Don’t count the Tea Party out. We are angry and very focused. It’s time for the Conservatives to take over the GOP. Attend your local Tea Party meetings. Become a precinct committee person. Assist in selecting good Conservatives running for office. Let the whole country know how angry you are.


69 posted on 06/15/2012 4:04:30 PM PDT by Enough is ENOUGH (Let there be no doubt, Obama and his administration is on a mission to destroy our country.)
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To: Mozilla
Later, Romney gave a more detailed version of his stance, tell supporters at a fund-raiser in Florida Republicans needed to offer their own version of the DREAM Act.

Anyone ELSE think this idiot is going to be 'pushed to the right' if he's elected President?

70 posted on 06/15/2012 4:09:00 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Conservatism is not a matter of convenience.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Point is, we don’t NEED a Dream Act of ANY kind, Myth!

We need our DREAM back and you ain’t the one to give it to us!

*sigh*


71 posted on 06/15/2012 4:11:44 PM PDT by LUV W (Never forget...WE have THEM surrounded! ~ Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Signalman

I did not post any articles.


72 posted on 06/15/2012 4:13:47 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: Windy City Conservative

Unfortunately, it is cheerleading season in the GOP Media, so most outlets and commentators will sweep Romney and Rubio’s amnesty endorsements under the rug. Obama know the cracks in the GOP foundation as well as I do. The liberal media are reporting that Rubio and Romney support Obama’s intentions. Romney and a lot of idiots in the GOP braintrust (including Romney voters) might just wake up the first Wednesday in November completely beside themselves; and then they’ll commence blaming the Tea Party by lunch time.


73 posted on 06/15/2012 4:15:02 PM PDT by Windy City Conservative (Kyle Smith)
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To: Mozilla

Shocking...I can’t believe the good Bishop was just painted rust this whole time. (/s)


74 posted on 06/15/2012 4:34:06 PM PDT by Kaosinla (The More the Plans Fail. The More the Planners Plan.)
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To: onetruelord
try reading the romneytruthfile (link on front page) during your nice weekend friend

onetruelord - Since Jun 11, 2012

Oh ok. Thanks for the introduction to FR, noobtroll.

75 posted on 06/16/2012 8:39:52 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: txrangerette; Mozilla; atc23

“His (Perry’s) plan to secure to border was endorsed by Joe Arpaio.

He refused to talk about immigration reform until the border was secure and said within one year of taking office he would have the border secured.”


As night follows day I knew that sealing the border would be forgotten and that those with their brains stuck in neutral would keep revving that anti-Perry engine.

Thanks for keep the truth out there txrangerette.


76 posted on 06/16/2012 11:32:24 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: onetruelord; Cincinatus' Wife; sam_paine

Most people who have a ton against Romney, who nevertheless decide to vote for him, do so against the far greater threat as they perceive it of continuing a man in office for several more years who is deliberately destroying America brick by brick because he hates it.

The very idea that no President ever lied before or during office, or had a problematic life feature such as Mormonism, for example, is poppycock.

Get real.

With that criteria, there would be nobody in that office.

You look at the hand dealt to you and play it according to your best judgement and personal conscience.

Those who think Romney is so bad that they prefer Obama, that’s their choice.

Those who think Obama is so unspeakable that they prefer Romney, that’s theirs.

I don’t vote for either one, either by action or inaction, because my state of Texas will vote overwhelmingly to oust the tinpot dictator from office and doesn’t need my vote.

I’m blessed in that.

Depending on location, many are not so blessed in that way.


78 posted on 06/17/2012 4:17:45 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: onetruelord; sam_paine; txrangerette
....help me understand why hes an honorable man worthy of my support.

As you are a newcomer to FR, tell me why you should start dictating to long time posters. You come across as a disruptor and not as a contributor.

79 posted on 06/18/2012 4:51:06 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; onetruelord

“Ain’t” it the truth?!

“It” signs on to post twice, then, nothing.

“Its” posts attack the GOP candidate (such as he is, and the vast majority of us cringe at his nomination) but deals not at all with Obama the statist dictator, the wacko LEFT Dem party or down-ticket races.

Hmmmmmmmm.....


80 posted on 06/18/2012 5:38:05 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: onetruelord; Cincinatus' Wife; txrangerette

Jesus Christ, unfortunately, did not return in time to run for the GOP nomination.

Given that, we are left with only sinners to vote for.

I thank you again for creating an account on this site last week in order to tell those of us who’ve been familiar with it for years how it works.

That’s not ad hominem. “Your writing exposes you as an idiot.” That’s ad hominem.


82 posted on 06/18/2012 10:11:10 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine

Glad you showed up.

:)


83 posted on 06/18/2012 10:25:10 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: sam_paine

SO OBVIOUS!
;o)


85 posted on 06/18/2012 10:31:43 AM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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To: onetruelord; Cincinatus' Wife; sam_paine

We dealt with you (your questions/complaints).

You are ignoring that you were dealt with.

You’re the one with no answers in the real world, the only one we live in.

The most tiresome thing is for you to throw the Romney truth file and the nature of this site at us.

Like we didn’t know.

But like Sam said, we have ONLY SINNERS to vote for.

So we use our best individual judgements, given that.

Considering EVERY factor, not select and exclusionary ones.


86 posted on 06/18/2012 10:36:02 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: onetruelord; txrangerette; Cincinatus' Wife; MEG33
onedumbpost: You are following a pagan priest...this will not be looked upon kindly when the time comes.

Ah, a clear window into your confusion.

None of us have confused the secular race for President with the choice of our pastor.

If this confuses you, then perhaps we can help you come to God by not trying to equate politicians with spiritual leaders.

That's like confusing Richard Simmons and Superman because they both wear tights.

Who grows the foods that you poison your body with un-Christian fruit? "Pagan" Papists in Mexico perhaps?

China Grove Buddhists in Southern California? Dirty Christ-denier (Christ-killer?) Joos in Floriduh? Grunge beer swilling atheists in Oregon?

Hey, who runs the state government on your planet? Who drives the buses? Who writes you traffic tickets? All good Christians? Do tell us how God has decided to judge you on these things when the time comes. You seem to know All about what He thinks.

Exodus tells those meek of us who don't channel God's thoughts how to identify false prophets. So I don't need you to tell me how to operate the voting lever, this website, or my faith. Mkay?

87 posted on 06/18/2012 11:27:01 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine

“None of us have confused the secular race for President with the choice of our pastor.”

AMEN!!


88 posted on 06/18/2012 12:24:45 PM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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To: Mozilla

Considering it is illegal for the president to make law by executive order, what will be necessary is to educate the populace as to the correct legal processes for making such laws legally. As well as explaining how allowing a president to make law by executive order is how a dictatorship works and not how the U.S. government works which requires checks and balances not just the whim of one man who was elected president. It is up to the elected representatives of the States to make such decisions and then president can decide to sign them into law or not. And, of course, the court can find laws illegal, if found not to conform to the constitution. Is that not the correct procedure? I realize there might be a bit more to it, but I am working on my high school knowledge and high school was decades ago for me.


89 posted on 06/18/2012 1:19:16 PM PDT by This I Wonder32460
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To: Sir Napsalot
Rubio did say on Hannity just now that what Obama did was unconstitutional. And he said that Obama should not that done that executive order. That said I don't support Rubio because he seems to be too pro Amnesty for me.

I want all illegals deported now and all immigration stopped .

This communist Monster Obama/odinga has to be impeached and jailed for this treasonous, illegal, unconstitutional act. Yet many “freepers” here are blaming Republicans for what Obama did. unreal. you all agree with the liberal media that Obama is not the problem but that Republicans are when Republicans Blocked the Dream Act in Congress and Republicans in Congress have blocked every Amnesty for 20 years( but they get the blame. wtf?). many of you are unhinged puppets of the liberal media.yes you are liberals.

91 posted on 06/18/2012 2:09:13 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: rurgan

Comprehension reading much?


92 posted on 06/18/2012 2:16:12 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: onetruelord; txrangerette; Cincinatus' Wife
GL w/ your pagan priest. Dont come crying when you are inevitably decieved.

LOL. I'm sure we won't be able to go crying to you. They're not going to let you have web access in the asylum, so how will we ever find you to beg forgiveness?

But I'm still confused. If the Marxist Muslim wins his second term, then you will jump for joy?

Just remember the old saying:

BTW, try using the "Spell" button on this site. (It's right there next to "Preview" and "Post.")

93 posted on 06/18/2012 2:17:08 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: onetruelord
God will not let Omuslim win. But he will damn us if we follow a pagan priest.

God already did let Omuslim win once, fruitloop. Hello?

Did you really climb out from under a rock the day you signed up for FR and you missed the big decision in 2008 perhaps?

95 posted on 06/19/2012 10:26:05 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine; Admin Moderator

What’s with the name calling?

Disagree politely, if you can- but cool it with the insulting comments and personal attacks

Yes, I disagree with him too- but I would not call him “fruitloop” or say he “crawled out from under a rock”

Is that how you talk to people all the time?


96 posted on 06/19/2012 10:30:30 AM PDT by Mr. K (I AM WRITING-IN PALIN/GINGRICH)
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To: Mr. K

He’s a troll that just started a hoax account to instruct Freepers on their eternal damnation.

When skinheads or other fakes get on here they need to be ridiculed so they don’t sully FR.

This guy posts respectfully for a decade or so like you and he can have some credibility.

I note you cc’d “Admin Moderator.” That’s not how you “tell the teacher” on FR. If you’ve got a problem with my posts, hit the abuse button, FRiend.


97 posted on 06/19/2012 10:43:05 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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