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Are We in Revolutionary Times? ... Victor Davis Hanson
NRO The Corner ^ | 16 June 2012 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 06/16/2012 5:16:17 AM PDT by Rummyfan

Legally, President Obama has reiterated the principle that he can pick and choose which U.S. laws he wishes to enforce (see his decision to reverse the order of the Chrysler creditors, his decision not to enforce the Defense of Marriage Act, and his administration’s contempt for national-security confidentiality and Senate and House subpoenas to the attorney general). If one individual can decide to exempt nearly a million residents from the law — when he most certainly could not get the law amended or repealed through proper legislative or judicial action — then what can he not do? Obama is turning out to be the most subversive chief executive in terms of eroding U.S. law since Richard Nixon.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: revolutionaries; vanjones

1 posted on 06/16/2012 5:16:23 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan
There is a price to pay for this:

Will it work politically? Obama must assume lots of things: that all Hispanics vote as a block in favoring exempting more illegal aliens from the law, and are without worry that the high unemployment rate hits their community among the hardest; that black voters, stung by his gay-marriage stance, will not resent what may be seen as de facto amnesty, possibly endangering his tiny (and slipping) lead in places like Virginia, Ohio, and Pennsylvania. And because polls show overwhelming resistance to non-enforcement of immigration law, Obama also figures that the minority who supports his recent action does so far more vehemently than the majority who opposes it. Time will tell; but my gut feeling is that his brazen act will enrage far more than it will delight — and for a variety of different reasons. As with all his special-interest efforts — the Keystone cancellation, war-on-women ploy, gay-marriage turnabout, and now de facto amnesty — Obama believes dividing Americans along class, ethnic, gender, and cultural lines will result in a cobbled together majority, far more preferable than a 1996 Clinton-like effort to win over the independents by forging a bipartisan consensus.

2 posted on 06/16/2012 5:28:18 AM PDT by Palmetto Patriot (How much better off would we be if these bastards would just leave us alone?)
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To: Rummyfan

Nixon did nothing compared to this criminal freak.


3 posted on 06/16/2012 5:30:55 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: Rummyfan

If Obama loses, what will he do in between Nov 2012 and Jan 2013? He’s already demonstrated that the other branches of government do not matter and that he doesn’t care about US citizens. He’ll just implement whatever policies he wants with no thought to the consequences. It’ll be a bumpy ride.


4 posted on 06/16/2012 5:34:11 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Obama needs more time. After all -- Rome wasn't burned in a day.)
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To: Palmetto Patriot

Obama is not the problem, the people we elected to STOP him are not doing their jobs. What matters if you have laws when you don’t enforce them? What matters a Constitution ?


5 posted on 06/16/2012 5:43:41 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (Anybody but Obama.)
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To: Regulator
Nixon did nothing compared to this criminal freak

Nixon was a staunch anti-communist.

6 posted on 06/16/2012 5:52:33 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Article 58)
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To: Rummyfan

The reporter Munro acted in a revolutionary manner, his timed question was more effective than most realize, it caused a reaction.

Its no wonder the left and the likes in the MSM elitist society are all in an uproar, it created a situation.

We need many more people asking questions, even at the risk of doing so at key events, whatever it takes to take the wind out of the sails of the Obama pirating ships.


7 posted on 06/16/2012 5:53:56 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Islamoprogressivenists need not reply.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

If Obama loses, what will he do in between Nov 2012 and Jan 2013?


Read “Screwed” by Dick Morris and you will know what is in the mind of a communist, errr, progressive in a lame duck session.


8 posted on 06/16/2012 5:56:55 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

Like the fall of the Roman Republic, Boehner and the RINOs are too afraid to challenge the Neo Dictator. We must look to history or relive it! I am afraid it is too late to save the republic. Too many years of compassionate conservatism and reaching across the aisle has done in the greatest nation the world has ever seen. The American experiment is a failure, and has shown that man can not govern himself - he slips into serfdom through years of neglect and the temptation of cradle-to-grave entitlements Robin Hood has won the day (steal from the rich through high taxation). It is now too late to put the entitlement socialist Jeannie back in the bottle. We must face a new revolution to save the Constitution for those who can not live under the Tyranny that will follow an Obama second (and unlimited) term. Ultimately, secession will be the only way out for a fragment of society - those willing to stand for freedom and liberty.


9 posted on 06/16/2012 5:58:32 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Hotlanta Mike
If Obama loses, what will he do in between Nov 2012 and Jan 2013?

Lush vacations, Kobe beef, unlimited golf, and $20 million in POTUS pardons.

10 posted on 06/16/2012 6:05:42 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Regulator

Jackie Gleason for Richard Nixon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_C9vGEJXTU&feature=related


11 posted on 06/16/2012 6:08:28 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
We should impeach and indict Eric Holder and list Obama as an unnamed co-conspirator for starters.

This should slow down the implementation of any new edicts long enough to impeach Obama for contempt of Congress.

Now, if we just knew where to find a Speaker of the House with huevos...

Aw, forget it!

12 posted on 06/16/2012 6:11:30 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Typed using <FONT STYLE=SARCASM> unless otherwise noted)
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To: ClearCase_guy

If obama loses, think scorched earth.
He has no emotional attachment to this country or it’s people.
He has no loyalty to anything or anyone except himself.
He is a thin skinned whiney baby with all the powers of the presidency and then some.
Not to mention what his peeps will do.


13 posted on 06/16/2012 6:11:50 AM PDT by Texas resident (November 6 - Vote Against obama)
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To: All

Richard Nixon plays his Piano Concerto #1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCsGSMze_6Q&feature=related


14 posted on 06/16/2012 6:11:56 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: Rummyfan

If our differences were more geographically represented, we would have already entered into a shooting war, or more likely the Leftistis would have chosen to leave the rest of us alone and focus on turning their locals into hell hole utopias.


15 posted on 06/16/2012 6:15:25 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Rummyfan

Could you ever imagine the man calling himself Obama relinquishing the office of the presidency with as much grace as Nixon? I could foresee that the US Federal Marshalls would have to drag him kicking and screaming from the White House.

Richard Nixon - Remarks on Departure from the White House

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNmHFCY9MI0&feature=related


16 posted on 06/16/2012 6:21:56 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: Rummyfan

A military coup and restoration of the constitution would be one fix.


17 posted on 06/16/2012 6:22:14 AM PDT by Iron Munro (John Adams: 'Two ways to enslave a country. One is by the sword, the other is by debt')
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To: VRW Conspirator

That’s is the root of why the left hates Nixon.


18 posted on 06/16/2012 6:23:11 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: Rummyfan
Are we? Maybe more like civil war. Perhaps. Things are happening.

". . . some key [events] exacerbated the national debate, fraying trust, and national cohesion just a little more each time . . . The two-party system that had governed America . . . begin to fall apart . . . interest in politics took the place of all other forms of news-related entertainment . . . politicians were the celebrities . . . [Politics/ideology] was becoming such a habit, the reactions so automatic, that [journalists] taking sides on every news story became inevitable."

.. no wait! My mistake I just remembered that this is from for Love & Liberty by Robin Young and it's about 1857 America at the start of the administration of James Buchanan. My mistake.

19 posted on 06/16/2012 6:23:11 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Rummyfan

The polls next week will show a big increase in O’Bozo’s popularity among Hispanics.

You can bet your last peso on it.


20 posted on 06/16/2012 6:27:17 AM PDT by Iron Munro (John Adams: 'Two ways to enslave a country. One is by the sword, the other is by debt')
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

“Obama is not the problem, the people we elected to STOP him are not doing their jobs. What matters if you have laws when you don’t enforce them? What matters a Constitution ?”

100% agree. Obama is a turd. There is nothing anyone can do to stop that.

We should focus on the other Congressional turds who refuse to do their job. The GOP makes me want to vomit. The Dems are pretty transparent in wanting to destroy the country. The GOP talks a decent game about saving it, but ALWAYS wilts and turns tail. They ARE the shining example of political expediency and hypocrisy.

FUMR x2
FUGOP


21 posted on 06/16/2012 6:37:47 AM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: Rummyfan
Obama is turning out to be the most subversive chief executive in terms of eroding U.S. law since Richard Nixon.

Maybe the author knows.. What did Nixon do that JFK and LBJ did not do?

Things have been reported that JFK and LBJ did that Nixon did not do.. like coerced a virgin intern for sex and later tried to pimp her (JFK); and having the FBI and CIA bug opponents (LBJ had 'em bug Goldwater including his campaign plane). They all had lists of enemies.

22 posted on 06/16/2012 6:38:52 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Eye of Unk
Obama is so stupid! The question and it's timing is now the story. Obama could have dismissed the reporter's question with a glare and gone on, leaving the reporter looking unprofessional. Instead Obama came unglued like two prostitutes fighting on a street corner in Chicago.

Obama had to one-up the unproffessionalism..............

23 posted on 06/16/2012 6:39:47 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Iron Munro

Every vote gained by pandering causes ten to be lost due to the objection of the rest of his base.


24 posted on 06/16/2012 6:42:21 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: SampleMan

“or more likely the Leftistis would have chosen to leave the rest of us alone and focus on turning their locals into hell hole utopias.”

There’s no way the Left would choose to leave us alone. They need our money to pay for their fantasies. But more to the point, they can’t help themselves. It’s in their DNA to want to tell other people what to do...


25 posted on 06/16/2012 6:44:34 AM PDT by Clioman
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To: Rummyfan

Obama’s core is Peggy Johnson from Florida that praised him during the last election...”I won’t have to worry about putting gas in my car or my mortgage...if I help him, he’s going to help me...” anyone from the MSM done a followup with Peggy to see where she is sitting in the Obamaeconomy?


26 posted on 06/16/2012 6:49:43 AM PDT by databoss
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I have said for some time we are in a cultural revolution (and losing).

Now I am thinking a physical revolution (as in violence against one another) may be near.


27 posted on 06/16/2012 6:53:00 AM PDT by llevrok (2012 : Elect Adults)
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To: Rummyfan

Yes, we are living in Revolutionary times.

We cannot allow liberty to be lost when it has been purchased with the blood of patriots for 236 years.

Here’s my take on the times we live in:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2890096/posts

This nation has never progressed without the aid of God. We need to seek Him and from Him, gather strength for the restoration of our land and for a new birth fo freedom in the land.


28 posted on 06/16/2012 6:58:25 AM PDT by exit82
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

It was easy to point this out as “Something that wouldn’t be written today”. It’s exhibits intelligence, good grammar, and I can actually read it.


29 posted on 06/16/2012 6:59:17 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: All

To glimpse America’s future after another Obama 4 years, read Ayn Rand’s “Anthem”........


30 posted on 06/16/2012 7:05:25 AM PDT by JW1949
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

your right on with that thought


31 posted on 06/16/2012 7:14:40 AM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: All
Hasta la vista....
32 posted on 06/16/2012 7:45:27 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: Rummyfan
The Progressives of both major political parties are a long term virus sucking the life out of the body Republic.

All but a very few presidents since the Big Schtick rino Teddy haven't been infected by it, and all the rest have spread their disease, either through legislation or better, through a new alphabet agency.

obama is an outsider of sorts, someone who pushed too far too fast, and shined too much light on their very real war being waged against the nation's foundation.

They will certainly celebrate his accomplishments, but not the attention his work has brought.

Romney is a return to their preferred methods, the slow progressive path designed to keep the sleeping beast soundly asleep while they build the cage and wrap their chains ever more tightly.

33 posted on 06/16/2012 7:51:05 AM PDT by GBA (To understand what is happening to America and why, read The Harbinger by Jonathan Cahn)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
Obama is not the problem, the people we elected to STOP him are not doing their jobs. What matters if you have laws when you don’t enforce them?

Yep.

"Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths?"

-- George Washington


34 posted on 06/16/2012 7:58:56 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (To be added to the new EternalVigilance ping list, FReepmail me. www.TomHoefling.com.)
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To: GBA
Indeed.

Mitt Romney's role, should he win, is nothing more than to consolidate the socialist gains of Obama.

35 posted on 06/16/2012 8:01:03 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (To be added to the new EternalVigilance ping list, FReepmail me. www.TomHoefling.com.)
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To: Rummyfan
Obama is turning out to be the most subversive chief executive in terms of eroding U.S. law since Richard Nixon.

Sad the doting court eunuchs of the MSM fail to notice...

36 posted on 06/16/2012 8:03:01 AM PDT by GOPJ (The doting court eunuchs of the MSM fail to notice...)
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To: exit82

“We cannot allow liberty to be lost when it has been purchased with the blood of patriots for 236 years.”

That “liberty” -may- survive. Whether it will or not is unclear at this time (although the time when we will know may be soon approaching).

However — if it -does- survive, the national/state/provincial boundaries of North America will be completely changed once the scenario has played out.

We may see something akin to the transmogrification of the old Soviet Union into a “Commonwealth of Independent States”.

Can you say “Commonwealth of North American States”?
I knew you could....


37 posted on 06/16/2012 8:05:07 AM PDT by Road Glide
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To: Palmetto Patriot

I think you’re missing the point. By doing this - and by Romney not coming out full tilt against it - he drives a further wedge between the GOPe and Conservatives.

Sometimes the O isn’t as dumb as he acts.


38 posted on 06/16/2012 8:08:04 AM PDT by I Shall Endure
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To: Rummyfan
Good editorial. I'd like to rephrase a couple of sentences:
If the President can decide which laws to enforce or not enforce — then what can he not do?

As far as end of the year executive orders, he's just shown that he won't be waiting until November.

39 posted on 06/16/2012 8:08:30 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: databoss

Yes. Follow-up on Peggy Johnson! Anybody?


40 posted on 06/16/2012 8:50:16 AM PDT by Minnesota fox
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To: Clioman

If we all lived in one state and they another, I don’t think they would have the stones to try and come take it.


41 posted on 06/16/2012 10:17:25 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: broken_arrow1; OldPossum
Like the fall of the Roman Republic, Boehner and the RINOs are too afraid to challenge the Neo Dictator. We must look to history or relive it! I am afraid it is too late to save the republic. Too many years of compassionate conservatism and reaching across the aisle has done in the greatest nation the world has ever seen. The American experiment is a failure, and has shown that man can not govern himself - he slips into serfdom through years of neglect and the temptation of cradle-to-grave entitlements Robin Hood has won the day (steal from the rich through high taxation). It is now too late to put the entitlement socialist Jeannie Genie back in the bottle. We must face a new revolution to save the Constitution for those who can not live under the Tyranny that will follow an Obama second (and unlimited) term. Ultimately, secession will be the only way out for a fragment of society - those willing to stand for freedom and liberty.

There, fixed it!

42 posted on 06/16/2012 10:22:39 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: EternalVigilance
Exactly. Judging from the last several decades, that seems to generally be the rino's role:

Put the We the People beast back to sleep with the proper face, words and pace, while quietly consolidating their gains and laying new groundwork for the next quiet assault.

It's a very captivating show and they make us think we are voting for some opposition to the progressives, when in fact we are voting for even more progressivism.

All illusion. Rinse, cycle, repeat every election.

43 posted on 06/16/2012 10:56:46 AM PDT by GBA (To understand what is happening to America and why, read The Harbinger by Jonathan Cahn)
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