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Illinois Man Builds, Shoots, Sells Homemade Civil War Cannons
guns.com ^ | dabneybailey

Posted on 06/16/2012 10:48:07 AM PDT by marktwain

Ray Carr, a resident of Charleston, Illinois, builds and sells homemade cannons. His most recent one is modeled after an 1862 Mountain Howitzer, it’s fully operational, and it can be yours for the low price of $4,750.

Despite the high price tag and the obviously limited market, Carr claims that a bunch of people are interested. He told The Daily Eastern News, “Most [prospective buyers] say, ‘I’d love to have it, but the wife wouldn’t let me.’” We've all been there before. So, what motivates a man to build homemade Civil War replica cannons? The same thing that motivates all other gun lovers: he just likes ‘em. Carr has been interested in cannons ever since he was eight years old when he attended a Civil War reenactment. He recalled that they “were big and powerful and a lot of fun and make a lot of noise. Everybody jumped and ooh’d and ahh’d."

People are still doing quite a bit of ooh’ing and ahh’ing now that Carr has perfected his craft. He likes to fire blanks with a bit of coffee creamer. “Calories is calories,” Carr explained. The creamer adds a bright flame to the already impressive bone-shaking boom.

When he’s not firing dairy products out of his cannon, Carr’s other favorite ammo is cement-filled Christmas ornaments. They shatter on impact and don’t have a chance of ricocheting back and hitting the user. Carr asked, “Wouldn’t it suck to get hit by that thing?” Yeah, probably.

The great thing about a cannon like this is that it’s generally legal to own one of these things. It gets around the Gun Control Act of 1968 because anything modeled off of something constructed before 1989 counts as an antique firearm. So, assuming you’ve got five grand to blow and you have the world’s most forgiving wife, this bad boy could be yours.

Can you imagine how much fun it would be taking this to the shooting range?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: banglist; cannon; il; muzzleloader
"It gets around the Gun Control Act of 1968 because anything modeled off of something constructed before 1989 counts as an antique firearm."

It is not 1989, would that it were. The date is 1898.

1 posted on 06/16/2012 10:48:11 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

What’s the going price for an 11 inch Dahlgren?


2 posted on 06/16/2012 10:54:15 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: marktwain

But then, journalism isn’t journalism anymore.


3 posted on 06/16/2012 10:54:50 AM PDT by wastedyears ("God? I didn't know he was signed onto the system.")
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To: marktwain

that and the fact that it is a muzzleloader. and muzzleloaders are not classified as firearms.


4 posted on 06/16/2012 10:55:27 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: marktwain

There are numerous articles on making this artillery piece.

This is most likely the M1841 version of the venerable Napoleon and was cast in bronze.

Barrel wight of 220lbs & with carriage totaled 500 lbs & shot a 12 lb shell.

Quite nice IMO


5 posted on 06/16/2012 10:58:57 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: marktwain

Yeah, but it is still Illinois. He probably needs a FOID card for possessing it.


6 posted on 06/16/2012 11:01:12 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("You forget, it isn't who you claim, but instead, who claims you. We don't claim you!")
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To: marktwain

I visited Barney’s Cannons in So. Bend back in the early ‘70s. He made replica muzzle loading cannons. Got an 1812 naval cannon replica (big and really heavy) about the same time from Dixie Gunworks and also machined a nice 1.6” bore cannon from really heavy wall (1”) steel tubing. They make lots of noise with a half soup can of black powder.


7 posted on 06/16/2012 11:22:16 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: marktwain

I wonder how far a guy could shoot a potato with one of those.


8 posted on 06/16/2012 11:42:53 AM PDT by Blogatron (Brought to you by The American Frog Council; 'Frog - The other green meat')
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To: marktwain
‘I’d love to have it, but the wife wouldn’t let me.’

Tell the wife it's a lawn ornament, set it in the front yeard and plant a garden around.

Just remember to leave a little path through the flowers so you can to tow it out to take it to the range and to 4th of July events.

9 posted on 06/16/2012 12:01:40 PM PDT by Fido969
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To: marktwain

The French 75 mm field gun. (Canon de 75 modèle 1897.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_de_75_mod%C3%A8le_1897

Mauser C96

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauser_C96


10 posted on 06/16/2012 12:20:58 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: bill1952
THIS is an M1841 Mountain Howitzer. Barrel wight of 220lbs & with carriage totaled 500 lbs & shot a 12 lb shell. It is not a version of the M1857 Napoleon smoothbore.

THIS is a 3" Ordnance Rifle, which is the top picture in the article, but is mislabeled. Another fine example of American journalism.


11 posted on 06/16/2012 12:32:01 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: muleskinner
I don't know what you have posted there because the image is broken but this is the mountain howitzer.

Intelligent journalists is an oxymoron. :)

12 posted on 06/16/2012 1:14:04 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: marktwain

I would love to have one and the wife wouldn’t care, but the $4,000 prce tag is too steep for me.


13 posted on 06/16/2012 1:39:01 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Farmer Dean

Ah wants me one of them thar two piece cannons Suleyman the Magnificent used to batter the walls of Constantinople!

OK, Mon’s Meg will do! “It is said a woman was got with child in it”.


14 posted on 06/16/2012 2:23:06 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I LIKE ART! Click my name. See my web page.)
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To: Venturer

I guess I will have to settle for one of those PVC pipe cannon fired with carbide gas.


15 posted on 06/16/2012 2:25:12 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I LIKE ART! Click my name. See my web page.)
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To: Vaquero
and muzzleloaders are not classified as firearms.

You mean I can have a 4.2 mortar?

16 posted on 06/16/2012 2:38:17 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Ever notice that when a beggar gets a donation, they immediately put their hand out for more.)
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To: marktwain
I owned an 1841 Bronze heavy 12 pounder with the dolphins. The tube alone weighed 1800#. The next month my wife filed for divorce and had to sell it for her half of the ownership....
17 posted on 06/16/2012 2:39:14 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Sarajevo

A civil war mortar...yes

Not one that uses a metallic cartridge(self contained)


18 posted on 06/16/2012 4:25:29 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: vetvetdoug
The next month my wife filed for divorce and had to sell it for her half of the ownership....

See my post #9. If you told her you bought it for her, you might still be married. And you'd have the cannon.

19 posted on 06/16/2012 5:45:35 PM PDT by Fido969
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I remember that exhibit when I got to visit Caslte Edinburgh in 1992.


20 posted on 06/16/2012 6:02:33 PM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I remember that exhibit when I got to visit Caslte Edinburgh in 1992.


21 posted on 06/16/2012 6:02:44 PM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: vetvetdoug

I was at the Battle Of Secessionville reenactment today and there wasn’t much there except for this live fire I managed to get.

http://tysonneil.smugmug.com/History/Civil-War-Reenactment/19681765_XhKFfd#!i=1909475535&k=M4MTg9w

The cannon is almost to the point it is too expensive to operate (namely powder) according to one of the gun crewmen.

I did get a few short clips of some pre-load/load/afterwards that are in the shutterstock approval queue.

Here is a civil war oddball some of may have seen before called a Williams Cannon or Repeating Cannon that I got to see a while back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-3Fsjf1iwE


22 posted on 06/16/2012 6:08:20 PM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: Blogatron

This Cannon could probably work it out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6phteRZpLtU


23 posted on 06/16/2012 6:10:29 PM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: bill1952

Rebel gunners were happy to hit a building with their cannon. Union gunners had rifled cannon, which could not only hit the barn, they could shoot out a particular window in the building.


24 posted on 06/16/2012 8:42:19 PM PDT by STD ([You must help] people in the communityÂ…feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless)
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To: Nailbiter; BartMan1

ping


25 posted on 06/16/2012 9:52:02 PM PDT by IncPen (Educating Barack Obama has been the most expensive project in human history)
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