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Report: Ginsburg sees ‘sharp disagreements’ as court rulings near (Commiecare˜™ deathbed?)
The Hill ^ | 6/16/12 | Ben Geman

Posted on 06/16/2012 6:34:21 PM PDT by Libloather

Report: Ginsburg sees ‘sharp disagreements’ as court rulings near
By Ben Geman - 06/16/12 11:05 AM ET

Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg is predicting “sharp disagreements” on the high court as the justices are on the cusp of landmark rulings including the fate of President Obama’s healthcare law.

“As one may expect, many of the most controversial cases remain pending,” she said in remarks Friday evening to the American Constitution Society, according to CNN. “So it is likely that the sharp disagreement rate will go up next week and the week after.”

The high court is slated to rule in the next two weeks on the healthcare reforms, including the core question of whether the individual insurance mandate is constitutional, as well as on Arizona’s anti-illegal immigration law, broadcast indecency regulations, and other matters.

The fate of the healthcare law, Obama's signature domestic policy achievement, has enormous political and policy stakes for his administration and reelection campaign. But Ginsberg left the audience guessing about what’s coming.

“At the Supreme Court, those who know don't talk,” she said. “And those who talk don't know.”

Ginsburg noted that the current term is dealing with many weighty issues.

“The term has been more than usually taxing, some have called it the term of the century,” she noted, according to CNN.

Ginsburg – who is part of the high court’s liberal wing – gave no hints about the upcoming healthcare ruling, but acknowledged that the justices were aware of the high level of attention to the case.

“No contest since the court invited new briefs and arguments in 'Citizens United' has attracted more attention – in the press, the academy," she said, referring to Citizens United v. FEC, which led to a 2010 ruling that allows unlimited corporate spending in elections.

“Some have described the controversy as unprecedented and they may be right if they mean the number of press conferences, prayer circles, protests, counter protests, going on outside the court while oral argument was under way inside,” she said of the high-profile healthcare case.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: commiecare; ginsburg; healthcare; obamacare
Pay for Commiecare™ or go to jail. Constitutional, unconstitutional. Hmmmmm. That's kinda hard.
1 posted on 06/16/2012 6:34:35 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather
The Justice Ginsburg needs to be cordially invited to return to private life... and a comfortable & QUIET retirement

Madame Justice...
If you don't like our Constitution, our form of government by the consent of the governed -- and the principles of American jurisprudence ---

Perhaps you should buy a consider a taking refuge in China, perhaps Iran...

I understand that Egypt is one of your favorites...

And there's always North Korea.

2 posted on 06/16/2012 6:44:13 PM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: Wings-n-Wind

very true...but most importantly only after obozo is as far out of the WH as humanely possible...


3 posted on 06/16/2012 6:52:47 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)
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To: Libloather

This could be a good sign, if it implies that the conservative justices are standing firm and not rolling over, causing the sharp disagreement with the commies. Or it could be a bad sign, if it means one or more conservatives going to the commie side is causing sharp disagreements with the other conservatives. You can never tell much from the statements they make.


4 posted on 06/16/2012 6:53:20 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Libloather

She’s probably pissed that ditherer Kennedy has dithered over to the conservative side on Obamacare.


5 posted on 06/16/2012 6:57:26 PM PDT by AU72
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To: AU72

I don’t know how anyone can assume any result based on her remarks.


6 posted on 06/16/2012 6:59:37 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Libloather

Did she dream it?


7 posted on 06/16/2012 7:03:09 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Libloather

“At the Supreme Court, those who know don’t talk,” she said. “And those who talk don’t know.”

This particular statement worries me. Most all of the predictions that I have heard is that Obamacare will be overturned either in part or in its entirity. I interpret her remarks as being those who are talking are the ones predicting its demise, so she’s saying they don’t know. That sounds like bad news to me.


8 posted on 06/16/2012 7:31:09 PM PDT by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: Libloather

Based on several news reports and discussions about how the court operates, these remarks seem odd. It’s been said that votes are taken on an issue soon after oral arguments are completed, then the rest of the long wait is spent writing majority and dissenting opinions.

Ginsburg makes it sound like the decisions haven’t been made, unless she means the sharp disagreements that will be expressed in the written opinions.

Or maybe she should have kept her mouth shut, on this and previous matters.


9 posted on 06/16/2012 7:44:10 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Libloather

As if no one could foretell where her vote will fall.


10 posted on 06/16/2012 8:04:30 PM PDT by Iron Munro (John Adams: 'Two ways to enslave a country. One is by the sword, the other is by debt')
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To: Will88

Yes, I believe the votes on Deathcare and the AZ immigration law were taken a couple of months ago. They are just writing up the majority ruling and the dissent.

I don’t think its too shocking that there was sharp disagreement on the healthcare ruling. Most people are expecting a 5-4 ruling on that.


11 posted on 06/16/2012 8:22:48 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Williams

On the basis of what she said, I can assume a 5-4 decision with extensively and sharply argued dissents framed by the losers.


12 posted on 06/16/2012 8:24:57 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: The_Reader_David

I can’t divine anything on the basis of her remarks, or upon anything she’s ever said for that matter.


13 posted on 06/16/2012 8:32:55 PM PDT by huckfillary (qual tyo ta)
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To: huckfillary

Why ANY SCOTUS Justice would be commenting publicly on the possible outcome of the BO-care decision is beyond me.

Here’s my wild guess.

There are a couple of “liberal” Justices who don’t like BO at all and are telegraphing their dissent to the voting public via the media, in order to further undermine BO’s support.

Just a guess.


14 posted on 06/16/2012 8:36:09 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Libloather

This 78 year old cancer-ridden temptress thinks she is being coy... Easy to read between the lines here. She is saying Obama-Care is going down, anywhere from 50-100% will be nullified. My rating is ruled 80% un-Constitutional


15 posted on 06/16/2012 8:52:26 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: Libloather

It’s a real shocker that the supremes would be divided by ONE vote on whether we are free or laboring under centralized socialism.

The constitution is just about dead and will be fully dead next appointment. Progressive Mittens will appoint anti-constitution progressives like OBAMBAM. He has a proven track record for doing so and is proud of it.


16 posted on 06/16/2012 8:56:02 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: thecodont

The conservative justices will act in accordance with what is expected of justices while the liberals are loosened from all rules including the meaning and rule of the constituiton.

We are one vote away from loosing the constitution. Given we have two progressives running for President, you can bet the constitution is short lived.


17 posted on 06/16/2012 9:03:02 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Libloather

I won’t believe it’s been struck down until I hear a ruling that says so and even then I want to hear the ruling twice.

I’m not getting my hopes up.


18 posted on 06/16/2012 10:54:48 PM PDT by Aglooka ("I was out numbered 5-to-1, I got 4.")
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To: SaraJohnson

Papy Bush appointed Souter to avoid a fight with the Senate. The next president will likely replace one liberal Justice (Ginsberg) and may have the opportunity to replace at least one conservative. No doubt Romney will appoint a moderate to liberal justice. Obama will appoint another socialist Marxist. Either way the balance tips forever.


19 posted on 06/17/2012 2:33:48 AM PDT by Soul of the South
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To: thecodont

Here is a twist on your wild guess. Commiecare(TM) gets tossed by the supremes, Obammy gets pi$$ed and agrees to throw the election to Mitt in exchange for Mitt appointing him to the USC replacing Ginsburg, and Biden as Sec of State. Mitt, of course, buys this and Ginsburg sacrifices herself for the cause. Then Mitt, Biden and Obammy work in unison to finish off capitalism. Obammy gets to rub the supreme’s noses in the stink they create for the rest of his life. Win Win for the commie’s cause. Kindof the ‘worst guess scenario’.


20 posted on 06/17/2012 2:48:43 AM PDT by ri4dc (Cut your cable; Break Wind for the TSA; Flush Twice in 2012; Eat, tweet, and be involved)
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To: Libloather

21 posted on 06/17/2012 3:24:12 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Prayer time?


22 posted on 06/17/2012 4:41:20 AM PDT by jennings2004 (President Hayes, Mount Rushmore, telephone, Dear Leader...what a mix!)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Prayer time?


23 posted on 06/17/2012 4:41:36 AM PDT by jennings2004 (President Hayes, Mount Rushmore, telephone, Dear Leader...what a mix!)
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To: murron

The consensus among lawyers and on Wall Street has been that the law is upheld. And don’t forget Nancy Pelosi boasted that Obamacare would be upheld 6 to 3. And the Obama Administration and the Preezy himself have said it will be upheld.


24 posted on 06/17/2012 5:07:49 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: WashingtonSource; All

The consensus among lawyers and on Wall Street...

Are these the ones who worked for Freddy and Fannie?
“Nothing is wrong...nothing to see here”

Are these the lawyers who are shorting certain medical stocks and propping up others????


25 posted on 06/17/2012 6:08:42 AM PDT by ak267
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To: jennings2004

Prayer time?

Oh, yeah. I'm surprised someone didn't complain about her praying in court.

26 posted on 06/17/2012 6:30:40 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: ak267

There was a analyst on CNBC last week who said he believe Obamacare would be overturned in its entirety and that he was one of the few analysts who thought so. I was surprised to see CNBC air his views. I can’t remember his name.

Also intrade has the chances for the Supreme Court rejecting the mandate at 78.5 percent, up from 70 percent on Friday.
http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/contract/?contractId=745353


27 posted on 06/17/2012 12:01:20 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: Libloather

This can give me all the right reasons to go ....

That is if it passes...

They should be considering the implications of millions of pissed off up against the wall people who are already stressed out losing over half their normal income. Then you make it a crime to not wanting to allow the Feds to take the rest of your wages is just what is needed to set this country afire.

Doesn’t matter how many enforcers are hired, no amount of threats or propaganda will convince Americans to follow the herd accepting Obamacare.

If it passes then SCOTUS should be prepared for the eventualities of that decision. I seriously, very seriously doubt that America will just buckle at the knees to Obamacare, its a justifiable excuse to stand up and act revolutionary.


28 posted on 06/17/2012 12:08:26 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (Islamoprogressivenists need not reply.)
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To: Libloather

Methinks this is all code language to the party faithful to deflect the blame for the fact that the Dems are about to get their lunch eaten by SCOTUS... if this news causes you to experience an erection lasting more than four hours, go ahead and blog about it. Or at least call all your friends and tell them.


29 posted on 06/17/2012 1:41:26 PM PDT by Kenton
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