Posted on 06/16/2012 7:52:54 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
Carl Ericsson was sentenced to life in prison under the “guilty but sane” conviction he received for the murder of his high school classmate Norman Johnson.
Ericsson only stated that a 1950s locker room incident featuring a jockstrap being pulled over his head has festered for more than 50 years, leading to the murder of Johnson in Madison, South Dakota, according to The Huffington Post. Ericsson’s lawyer, Kenneth Mayer, stated:
“He said that a jockstrap was put on his head. It’s the only thing he’s ever mentioned in talking to law enforcement.”
The 73-year-old man pleaded not guilty in the shooting of his former classmate, but a deal was reached before the case went to trial. A first degree murder charge in South Dakota can carry a death penalty sentence, according to AJC. Ericsson only stated that:
“I guess it was from something that happened over 50 years ago. It was apparently in my subconscious.”
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School is known to cause psychological problems that last for years. This is the most extreme example, but they often cripple a person’s future.
Was the guy still wearing it at the time?
Revenge is a dish best served frozen.
I have often posted that some schools are so horrific that it would be better for the child to never attend.
It seems to be the case for this man.
Atomic wedgie?
I wouldn’t be suprised if a lot of “random” killings were not so random after all.
Obviously, yes.
You mean he could have simply taken it off years ago?
It’s not that an incident like this is necessarily all that bad in itself, but it may become a life changer if the kid being bullied doesn’t know how to respond.
He might have been teased by all his classmates for the rest of his time in school after this happened, and thus gradually sank into the position of being the kid that everyone bullied.
It only happens if a kid lets it happen. But some kids just don’t know how to handle this kind of incident and respond effectively.
Given the immense lapse of time, this must have been a real life changer for this guy.
How comical. People believe that they are free of consequences. Maybe....
Never made a list, but that day in the locker room when several bigger kids attacked.....I was the only one standing...almost got expelled because I caused many doctor visits that afternoon. Never mess with a kid who can carry 2 50 pound bags of grain and toss a hay bail 6 tiers.
Steve Buscemi
Steve Buscemi
That little guy? He’s kinda ... funny lookin’, lol.
Steve Buscemi.
Don’t know; I’m not sure he tested that idea.
I was thinking more along the lines of “Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves.”
Better still:
Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. Therefore “If your enemy is hungry, feed him; If he is thirsty, give him a drink; For in so doing you will heap coals of fire on his head.” Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good. Romans 12:19–21 (NKJV)
Yup.... funny looking, but he always seems to spice up movie’s, heck he is better than most A-listers...at least he has personality.
That was a line from Fargo describing Buscemi’s character.
Buscemi was a NY city fire fighter before he got his break in acting. The day after 9/11, he went back and volunteered on 12 hours shifts for a week to work with his old partners and help clear the rubble.
Some people have slow reflexes.
Let's hear it for the tough runts! HOORAH!!!
LOL!!
Khan?
A jockstrap over his face? He must have been a REAL nerd!
Hehe. Same here. Grew up on a farm shovelling hay bales. :D
Nothing repels bullies better then getting a rep for being,
1, crazy
2, irish, which is the same thing. ;)
Ping
Sane? I don’t think so. Not after 50 years.
It seems to be the case for this man.
Once again putting the blame in the wrong place. Did the school bully him? No it was an individual.
Did the school cause him to carry a grudge for FIFTY years? No obviously there was more to it than just that one incident.
You really got to find a new hobby. This one note Johnny stuff is really wearing thin on us thinking Freepers.
I just want Jerry Coleman to know that it wasn't me what sprayed Red Hot in his jock.
It must have been someone who kinda looked like me.
In many ways, the typical Prussian-model school resembles a compulsory prison for children whose only crime was to have the audacity to be born.
If the government treats children like prisoners we shouldn't be surprised to see prison social pathology in the form of bullying, social hierarchies ( alpha girls and boys) and in the formation of protection gangs ( cliques). Just as in an adult prison, I expect that teachers and principals develop a blind eye to these pathologies because just as in a hard-core prison it helps them to control the inmates. I not holding my breath for the Marxist dominated colleges of education or sociology to study the matter. Hey! Why should they? The results would put many of a job.
For the same reason no one studies the prison social pathology found in our prison-like government schools, no one in these colleges of education or sociology has ever studied if government schools teach anything. NO ONE knows how much learning happens in the classroom ( likely NONE) as compared to what is acquired IN THE HOME due to the hard work of the parents, the child ( himself) doing homework and projects, and/or privately paid for tutoring.
So?....If I am wrong. Post the links to the studies. You're the professional teacher. You should be immediately able to access these studies. They should be that familiar to you since this information would be a fundamental part of your professional knowledge and skill base.
The atomic wedgie ruined George’s life on Seinfeld!
Illiteracy and innumeracy can be fixed. Dead or permanently scarred, crippled, or dead can't be.
And....There is NO proof that prison-like schools teach anything. Really, there aren't! No one knows, after up to $30,000/per kid/per year and years of prisoner-like mental abuse for the child, if these schools actually teach anything!!! It is very likely that any child who is educated that his education was entirely due to the **AFTERSCHOOLING*** done by the parents, the child himself (doing home assignments and projects), and tutoring ( paid or unpaid) acquired by the parents!
BTW I assume that you did see the study I already posted to you, but you must be ignoring since it blows your argument out of the water
——If the government treats children like prisoners we shouldn’t be surprised to see prison social pathology in the form of bullying, social hierarchies ( alpha girls and boys) and in the formation of protection gangs ( cliques——
This hardly needs explanation. Has anyone seen or experienced school-level bullying in any other walk of life? Work? Play? Church? Shopping? The Rotary Club?
Many children live under the constant threat of violence. I attended a wealthy suburb with the proverbial “great school system” in the seventies. One small kid had his books dumped and kicked down the hall on a daily basis.
Does this happen at work?
He was discretely punched hard on the shoulder every day.
Does this happen to you around town?
I took a bloody nose for a mildly retarded kid who was being attacked by a pack of kids in elementary school. I turned away from the same situation in junior high, because the bullies were much bigger.
Yet the teachers looked the other way, as did I and the other students, to our everlasting shame.
No amount of judo classes would have helped this kid. He only needed to escape.
That people can justify this system of children’s prisons disgusts me, and I’m sick to death of the rationalizations.
And one more thing. One of my daughter’s 13-yr-old friends attempted suicide by swallowing a bottle of Tylenol due to school and Facebook bullying (”where’s your real mother?”). Another was hospitalized in a psychiatric institution for a month due to anxiety caused by bullying.
Yeah, keep rationalizing the free babysitting. /spit
Khan refers to an old klingon proverb "revenge is a dish that is best served cold".
Still funny!
Khan refers to an old klingon proverb "revenge is a dish that is best served cold".
Please read post #30. Apparently, I am not alone in my thinking.
And....The cruelty dished out by and alpha girl can leave a child scarred for life.
And....Adults wonder why there is a generation gap, or that teens often have that spaced out and 20 degree off-centered stare, and answer in mumbles when spoken to? These kids are **ABANDONED** by the very people who should be be protecting them and rescuing them from this abuse.
I, too, saw similar instances of abuse that you described in your post. While, I was not a victim of abuse or teasing, I always knew that, at any moment, the maddening crowd could turn on me. Teasing, bullying, and alpha girl shredding not only harms the victim but every child in the class and school who is a witness to it.
On some level these kids **KNOW** that their parents **KNOW** that school is a hell-hole of a prison and that their teachers **KNOW** this is true as well. Why are we surprised then that many teens then reject their parents advice, turn inward, and look to their clique of friends ( their protection gang) for support?
Yeah, keep rationalizing the free babysitting. /spit
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NO NO NO studies have ever been done that **prove** government schools teach anything of academic value at all!!!!
It is completely UNKNOWN whether 100% of what is learned is happening IN THE HOME due to the massive AFTERSCHOOLING and PRESCHOOLING efforts of the parents; the child himself doing homework, projects, and independent reading and study; or private tutoring ( paid or unpaid) as compared to what is learned in the classroom.
Yes! I am shouting an jumping up and down!
Look at this video! We spend MORE on government schooling that parents pay in the HIGHEST PRICED and MOST EXCLUSIVE PRIVATE SCHOOLS and no one knows if government schools actually teach anything of academic value AT ALL!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqskuKqJ6DQ
One thing is for certain, though. In any government owned and run K-12 school they WILL WILL WILL learn to think and reason GODLESSLY ! They **MUST** just to cooperate in the godless classroom. How could it be otherwise? How can that be religiously neutral or in conformity with the First Amendment???? Huh?
Spit? You bet!/ SPIT!
I was thinking of that exact scene!
And since I told you to try and condense your palaver into one you decide to expand to three. You would thnk that a person that claimed to be a doctor would be capable of understanding simple English.
That’s impressive grudge holding!!!!! Gold star.
I hardly remember my schoolmates and school wasn’t 50 years ago for me. (This is why I fully believe Glove Romney when he says he doesn’t remember cutting that guy’s hair)
But then again no one ever pulled a jockstrap over my head.
I remember in 7th or 8th grade this punk gave me a nose bleed and got some kind of sticky gunk on my arm (I remember it being “latex” no clue what it was used for, probably for art class or something) I think his name was Rodolfo. I was embarrassed cause he was a couple years younger than me but it’s meaningless to me now, I haven’t thought of it in years till I was thinking back because of this story.
Small town thing? Everyone knows everyone.
I’ll tell you an old grudge I do hold, in Kingergarten there was a cake and the teacher only gave me a sliver cause I was skinny. I could have eaten that whole damn cake you crone! ;D
My kindergarten teacher died of cancer a few years later. Maybe Rodolfo was killed in gang action, I remember little of him but I’m thinking thug.
Jimmi Simpson is good.
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