Skip to comments.Defeat of healthcare law would erode votersí trust in Supreme Court (LibSpin)
Posted on 06/18/2012 8:40:56 AM PDT by pabianice
Every political strategist working the fall elections sees a game changer coming by the end of the month.
Thats when the Supreme Court rules on the constitutionality of President Obamas signature legislative accomplishment, the Affordable Care Act.
The Democrats have a nuclear option in this political game if the high court throws out the healthcare law as unconstitutional.
That blowup-the-system button, not pushed since FDRs attempt to stack the court with Democrats during the New Deal, is for Obama to use the bully pulpit of the White House, and the national stage of a presidential campaign, to launch a bitter attack on the current court as a corrupt tool of the Republican right wing.
It is a move that could energize Democrats and independents even as Republicans celebrate a major legal victory.
Some Democrats, sensing a political windfall, cant wait to start the offensive.
(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
Wouldn’t surprise me. He’ll burn the house down if he doesn’t win.
Figures they would have it exactly bass ackwards.
If they don't rule it unconstitutional, there is no reason to trust them.
Williams is clearly mentally challenged. Uber-Liberals Ginsberg and Kagan rule, that’s admirable judicial temperment. Thomas or Scalia rule, that’s insane political activism. How far we’ve fallen after 45 years of diseased Liberal mis-education.
This isn’t even debatable. It’s unconstitutional. Any ruling to the contrary will be a travesty and more proof that the SC is becoming overly political.
Juan is a tool.
No, it will be a great relief if struck down.
No, it won’t.
However, if they uphold this communist crap, I will never consider, obey or respect anything else they or the rest of the US federal communists do again.
Defeat of healthcare law would erode voters trust in Supreme Court???...Huh?
Only for whack left socialist liberals who don’t give a crap about the Constitution...
I dare say that if it is not held unconstitutional, that the Republic is no more in fact, not just in words. And as such, I would say that any and all means necessary to protect ourselves is warranted.
Left out of Guano Williams’ column were the filthy, corrupt practices utilized by Hussein, Dingy Harry, and Nazi Pelosi. No hearings, written in secret, never read by members, shady parliamentary subterfuges, opposed then as now by a significant majority of Americans, dozens of bribes and special cutouts. Oh, and Obamacare does not apply to Congress or senior pols. Yes, there are two Americas.
Thomas Jefferson, America's third President:
"On every question of construction [of the Constitution] let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or intended against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed." - -Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Johnson, 12 June 1823
Given Jefferson's declaration concerning the method of approaching constitutional interpretation, and given all we can glean from explanations by Madison, Jay and Hamilton in the 85 essays of THE FEDERALIST, as well as the writings and speeches of those who debated and ratified the Constitution, can anyone believe that the Democrats' imposition of the so-called "health care" bill is consistent with the "spirit" of individual liberty of the Framers of our Constitution?
"Agriculture, manufactures, commerce, and navigation, the four pillars of our prosperity, are the most thriving when left most free to individual enterprise." - Thomas Jefferson
"The enviable condition of the people of the United States is often too much ascribed to the physical advantages of their soil & climate .... But a just estimate of the happiness of our country will never overlook what belongs to the fertile activity of a free people and the benign influence of a responsible government." - James Madison
These, and all the other writings and speeches of the founding period, as well as the vast explosion of freedom, opportunity, innovation, productivity, and liberty for oppressed people from all over the world under the influence of "a free people and the benign influence of" a limited and "chained" government power, should indicate to all of us today that a Supreme Court who, individually, have studied the principles of the document they are using as a measuring tool for this massive power grab commonly called "obamacare," will in no wise believe that a single Framer of the Constitution would affirm its legitimacy.
Considering that Obie and the congress have record low approval ratings I don’t think the Supremes are the problem. But don’t try to point that out to a liberal - they’re impervious to the obvious.
Just suck it.
Just suck it.
Ha! During the last national election, I worked at a survey center. NO ‘self-identified Democrat’ that I surveyed knew what a ‘supreme court justice’ WAS or could name one. Neither could they say what these individuals DID once you gave them the names!!
Believe me... Liberal voters are dumb as dirt and twice as common!
As 70% or so of the US population dislikes this rammed down our throats legislation, I would guess that overturning it would INCREASE respect for the Supreme Court.
Where do they get this kinda junk spin??????
The Demos are accustomed to the SCOTUS giving a rubber stamp approval to all things leftist. They will go nutz when SCOTUS denies them a "right"
Back before Alito and Roberts were on the court when O Conner was siding 5-4 with Dem SCOTUS appointees on great decisions like : making homo-sodomy a US constitutional privacy right, the liberal/MSM dogma was that ANY criticism of the court undermines the ‘rule of law’.
Now that the SCOTUS no longer does their bidding their new dogma is : “Overturning any law that we supported undermines the ‘rule of law’.
Hypocrisy??? Sure but libs write the rules of ‘fairness’ and Republicans are not good at throwing their own words (doo-doo) back in their faces, unlike me.
How did that work for them in Wisconsin? Most people think Obama's monster should be overturned. Throwing a mass tantrum isn't going to change that.
Had Obamadamadingdong and Nazi Pelosi not ram rodded this monster through congress, without even letting anyone read it and debate it...had they had the respect for the constiutional government not to buy off votes to pass it...had it been debated and examined like normal in the Congress and in the media...it would not be at the Supreme Court today.
The Democrats have gone a long way to wreck every institution of society with their hateful, disrespectful, corrupt, radical, unconstitutional ideology.
Wasn’t this published about 3 weeks ago?
Not like any of the Supremes really care what an online ezine is saying about them anyway.
The voters have NO confidence in the integrity of the SC, and haven’t since the 60s.
Ruling Obamacare unconstitutional would do a lot to begin the healing.
Why wouldn’t it “erode trust” in the tyranical regime that passed the bill without knowing or revealing what was in it?
The GOP better get off of their dead butt’s and have a plan for making this case loud and clear!
The voters don’t have a lot of confidence in the ‘rule of law’ period, since the current administration seems to have no regard for it. The trampling of the Constitution, blatant disregard for immigration laws, and the outright criminal activity is really appalling. The system of checks and balances has completely failed.
“...can anyone believe that the Democrats’ imposition of the so-called “health care” bill is consistent with the “spirit” of individual liberty...?”
Way to preach to the choir. I’m curious, do you convert many democrats over?
Nothing directed at you, but I think a lot of people (me included) here like to preach-post to people who already mostly agree with them. It makes the poster feel good, which is fine, but does almost nothing to bring in new conservative voters or convert less conservative, established voters over.
Remember, when we post here, we are simply posting to an echo chamber.
I absolutely agree with your assessment.
No joke. Obama can't take the credit for starting it. I give that to FDR, although perhaps it started earlier. But he sure is trying to put the final touches to it.
You may be correct in your description that we are preaching to "the choir." My own reading of the thoughtful posts and contributions of others over a number of years, however, has been a learning experience and a sharing of information which helps to equip each and all of us who want to preserve the ideas of liberty as we engage in the great battle of ideas.
While there may seem to be an "echo chamber" at times, posters display a great diversity of opinion and analysis that is healthy.
In addition to that, there are "lurkers" whose views have been formed by their schools or previous experience--views which are diametrically opposed to those of most Freepers. Perhaps they, upon reading such concise founding-era quotations about our Constitution, about life, liberty, rights, and laws to protect them, may be curious enough decide to compare those words with the dogma and propaganda of their professors and Party leaders.
"Sharing" information about sources for the underpinning ideas of our nation's Declaration of Independence and Constitution with others who may be able to use that information in their own responses to the Left's challenges seems to help to multiply the efforts of all of us, especially some who are "opinion makers" in their communities and state or national connections.
Bring it on! The majority of the people want it thrown out, so I hope the Dems go on the attack!
Here is my answer to you, it is a bit out dated, but the sentiment remains:
When this health care for all crap passes, right now the legislation states that it will be illegal to sell private policies over the date of passage. It also says that HSAs will no longer be allowed. That means that my current policy will no longer be allowed and neither I nor my employer will be allowed to privately purchase an alternative.
I will not accept the public option that I will be dictated to join. I will not give the government control over my physical body. I will not pay their fines, I will not surrender to the impending warrant for my arrest. When they knock on my door, I will not answer. When they kick it in, I will make the news.
Hows that for unification, libtards? You loons are currently legislating my death. I will chose the terms and I will bring as many of you along as possible!
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security
SCOTUS will overturn this just to ream it up Obama’s nose : )
“Erode voters’ trust in the Supreme Court...”
Which voters? The ones who want to inflict their costs on everyone else or the ones who feel that some sane individual should at least be held partially responsible for risks taken?
I think the court did that long ago in Roe v. Wade.