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Rubio’s Take on DREAM ‘by Fiat’
National Review ^

Posted on 06/18/2012 10:01:52 AM PDT by Windy City Conservative

Senator Marco Rubio of Florida tells National Review Online that President Obama’s executive order on immigration is part of a “growing consensus” in American politics about the children of illegal immigrants, but he is troubled by the president’s lawmaking “by fiat.”

“There is a growing sentiment in America about these kids,” Rubio says. “If you were four years old when your parents brought you here illegally, and you have grown up here your whole life and don’t even speak Spanish, and you are your high school’s valedictorian, you have a lot to contribute to our future. It kind of feels weird to deport you.”

Rubio acknowledges that his position on illegal immigration will not please every member of his party. But he believes that he can still be an opponent of illegal immigration while working to help the children of illegal immigrants to avoid deportation. Immigration is “not a black and white issue,” he says. “It’s a complicated issue. Complicated issues require careful solutions. On one hand, we want to help these kids, but we also do not want to do anything to encourage illegal immigration.”

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Rubio and Romney are going to hand Obama 4 more years.
1 posted on 06/18/2012 10:01:54 AM PDT by Windy City Conservative
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To: Windy City Conservative

Rubio is a major disappointment.


2 posted on 06/18/2012 10:10:23 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Windy City Conservative
If you can manage to actually suppress turnout, yeah, the little barry bastard commie will finish off the Republic.

What Rubio said is probably factual, too many Americans are tugged by the heartstrings to welcome an invasion of illegals propped up by their children. But in not taking the hardline position, folks like you use the issue as a wedge to suppress turnout and foster hatred of Milt Rominy.

What Rubio mouthed is probably factual, but it doesn't make him a candidate for the veep position because he is no better than the current oval orifice occupant, lacking in experience for the job at hand.

BTW, don't you agree with Rube that it is not the authority of the pres_ _ent to grant amnesty by fiat, end around fraud through the Just Us department run by the thug HOlder?

3 posted on 06/18/2012 10:11:10 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Windy City Conservative

Dunno ‘bout that, but he sure is handing ammo to the “There is not a dime’s worth of difference...” beliefs that some of us hold...


4 posted on 06/18/2012 10:11:57 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Windy City Conservative
and you are your high school’s valedictorian...

We should expect now a million or more valedictorians roaming around without risk of deportation. What a plus for American society [/sarc].

5 posted on 06/18/2012 10:16:02 AM PDT by C210N ("ask not what the candidate can do for you, ask what you can do for the candidate" (Breitbart, 2012))
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To: Windy City Conservative

Someone needs to point out that kids ALWAYS suffer from the bad decisions of their parents.

Most criminals’ kids don’t have anything when Dad/Mom get taken away to jail. When an embezzler is caught, all of sudden all the assets are gone and the rest of the family moves from the Hamptons to a tenement in the Bronx.

Life isn’t fair. It isn’t my job to make life fair. My life wasn’t fair. It is my job to deal with the cards I was dealt as best as I can (which I have doe and quite well). My gratitude is in supporting charities that I think do the most good for the most people and in being a good citizen.

Don’t put the unfairness of the world as a yoke on the American people. Breaking the law should never be rewarded.

And Rubio is off my Christmas Card (and future support) list.


6 posted on 06/18/2012 10:17:47 AM PDT by freedumb2003 ('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
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To: Windy City Conservative

Barack Obama is really smart.

He’s managed to take an unconstitutional move, and by doing so turn conservatives against the republican candidates.

He’s caused a split on our side by doing something illegal, making it easier for him to win.

We really are the stupid party. Or at least, some of us are.

And I don’t mean Rubio.


7 posted on 06/18/2012 10:18:08 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Windy City Conservative; AuntB; Liz; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy; ...
RE :”Senator Marco Rubio of Florida tells National Review Online that President Obama’s executive order on immigration is part of a “growing consensus” in American politics about the children of illegal immigrants, but he is troubled by the president’s lawmaking “by fiat.”
“There is a growing sentiment in America about these kids,” Rubio says. “If you were four years old when your parents brought you here illegally, and you have grown up here your whole life and don’t even speak Spanish, and you are your high school’s valedictorian, you have a lot to contribute to our future. It kind of feels weird to deport you.

Notice he uses the straw dog ‘deport’ as all who promote amnesty do.

The relevant issues are :

1) Work visas (as Obama is giving them) with high unemployment
2) Entitlement to government handouts as with legal immigrants.
3) Path to citizenship and a vote as in Rubio's plan.

If Rubio addressed his position on those I might take him seriously; but those are not 'feel good' topics.

8 posted on 06/18/2012 10:20:05 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: Windy City Conservative
Whenever anybody uses the word "consensus" they mean "We have decided what we want to do and you can just STFU."
9 posted on 06/18/2012 10:20:22 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: freedumb2003
Someone needs to point out that kids ALWAYS suffer from the bad decisions of their parents

You got that right!

10 posted on 06/18/2012 10:21:45 AM PDT by tsowellfan (Should Obama recuse himself from making any decisions on immigration?)
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To: Windy City Conservative

“If you were four years old when your parents brought you here illegally, and you have grown up here your whole life and don’t even speak Spanish, and you are your high school’s valedictorian, you have a lot to contribute to our future...”

So tell me Marco, how many such cases there are in America...


11 posted on 06/18/2012 10:23:30 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: MHGinTN

Here we go again, NEVER be honest about how corrupt our candidates are. Just let them screw our nation into the dirt, so the Democrats won’t get the credit.

Just damn! Will we never learn?

If Romney wants Conservative support, he damn well better change his spots.

I will never vote for a McCain or a Romney. As far as I am concerned the Republican party is dead to me. We can try to enhance the Conservative position in the House and the Senate, but the White House is lost to Conservatives this year no matter what.

You need to accept reality.


12 posted on 06/18/2012 10:23:39 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: Windy City Conservative
and you are your high school’s valedictorian

Unlikely as a Latino:

Status dropout rates of 16- through 24-year-olds in the civilian, noninstitutionalized population, by race/ethnicity: Selected years, 1980-2009
Year Total1 Race/ethnicity
White Black Hispanic Asian/Pacific Islander American Indian/Alaska Native
1980 14.1 11.4 19.1 35.2
1985 12.6 10.4 15.2 27.6
1990 12.1 9.0 13.2 32.4 4.9! 16.4!
1995 12.0 8.6 12.1 30.0 3.9 13.4!
1998 11.8 7.7 13.8 29.5 4.1 11.8
1999 11.2 7.3 12.6 28.6 4.3
2000 10.9 6.9 13.1 27.8 3.8 14.0
2001 10.7 7.3 10.9 27.0 3.6 13.1
2002 10.5 6.5 11.3 25.7 3.9 16.8
2003 9.9 6.3 10.9 23.5 3.9 15.0
2004 10.3 6.8 11.8 23.8 3.6 17.0
2005 9.4 6.0 10.4 22.4 2.9 14.0
2006 9.3 5.8 10.7 22.1 3.6 14.7
2007 8.7 5.3 8.4 21.4 6.1 19.3
2008 8.0 4.8 9.9 18.3 4.4 14.6
2009 8.1 5.2 9.3 17.6 3.4 13.2

Source: http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=16

13 posted on 06/18/2012 10:23:51 AM PDT by freedumb2003 ('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
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To: Windy City Conservative

“Senator Marco Rubio of Florida tells National Review Online that President Obama’s executive order on immigration is part of a ‘growing consensus’......”

You are wrong you Cuban Marxist.

Go back to your parents’ homeland and go work for the Castro bothers.

By the way, I read here on FR a few weeks ago or less he has made political exaggerations/lies about his personal life to make himself look like something special.

Sorry, I did not save the post. Maybe somebody did and would like to share it again.


14 posted on 06/18/2012 10:25:16 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Windy City Conservative
and you are your high school’s valedictorian, you have a lot to contribute to our future

OK, OK, Senator Rubio, I get it.

Let's make a deal.

Every illegal mestizo who is both a high school valedictorian (legitimately appointed) AND who can, by oral examination, convince a panel appointed from the faculty of CalTech and MIT that they "have a lot to contribute to our future" can stay, as long as you support deportation within three months for all the others.

Deal?

15 posted on 06/18/2012 10:26:51 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Anna Wintour makes Teresa Heinz Kerry look like Dolly Parton.)
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To: DoughtyOne

And you spittle that I need to accept reality? ... You have posed the refutation to your own assertions! If there is nothing to be done about the choice of Rominy or little bastard commie, then why not vote for the removal of the commie while voting for as many real conservatives as you can find on your ballot? I mean, this holier than thou approach is a suicide pact, or a lust to use all the prepper stuff you’ve stored up.


16 posted on 06/18/2012 10:30:12 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
You can definitely say that again. Some of our folks would rather see Obama win than vote for Romney--they are the most clueless folks in the world if they truly believe there is no difference between Obama and Romney or if they believe that a second Obama term wouldn't be catastrophic.

Romney has never been my choice, but compared to Obama, he is Ronald Reagan on steroids.
17 posted on 06/18/2012 10:30:12 AM PDT by Sudetenland (Member of the BBB Club - Bye-Bye-Barry!!!)
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To: Windy City Conservative

No surprise that “Anchor Baby” Rubio talks like a Democrat on this. “Growing consensus”? What the hell is that? A minority opinion that you hope will be the majority someday maybe, but that’s not the same as a law.


18 posted on 06/18/2012 10:31:18 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: sickoflibs

“3) Path to citizenship and a vote as in Rubio’s plan.”


Rubio’s plan would *not* provide a path to citizenship (nor a vote, of course), which is why Obama and the Democrats are doing everything possible to keep Rubio’s bill from getting to the floor, including the preemptive strike of issuing an unconstitutional executive order that leaves open the possibility of a path to citizenship.


19 posted on 06/18/2012 10:33:22 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: DoughtyOne
"You need to accept reality."

Looks like you are the one who needs to accept "reality." Reality is Romney IS going to be the Republican candidate and he would be, in every way, better for America than a second term Obama would be.

Those who throw temper tantrums, such as yours, are generally those who are farthest from reality.
20 posted on 06/18/2012 10:34:21 AM PDT by Sudetenland (Member of the BBB Club - Bye-Bye-Barry!!!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

“by doing so turn conservatives against the republican candidates.”

That would imply the opposition was not a pre-existing condition.


21 posted on 06/18/2012 10:35:53 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Windy City Conservative

What’s complicated about it? Enforce the d*** law.


22 posted on 06/18/2012 10:35:58 AM PDT by Nea Wood (When life gets too hard to stand, kneel.)
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To: freedumb2003

I completely agree.... excellent post.


23 posted on 06/18/2012 10:36:32 AM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: MHGinTN

You are a moron.

Your car is either going to wind up with no transmission or no wheels shortly after the next election, and you waste your time arguing that we need to save the wheels, because without wheels the car is useless.

I am going to continue to address Romney policies I see as destructive to our nation. I will also continue to trash Obama for his insanity.

Now you can continue to throw a hissy-fits every time someone trashes Romney policy, or accept that his policies are as detrimental to our nation as they are.

I’m going to blister him with truth. Brace yourself!


24 posted on 06/18/2012 10:37:29 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: Windy City Conservative

1) Obama’s decree was not limited to kids. Any illegal alien under 30 was included.

2) Since most illegals don’t possess an ID, anyone under 45 could pass for under 30.

3) No one is going to leave a child here while deporting their parent(s).

Marco RUBE-E-O: this is a get out of jail free card for nearly everyone who is here illegally. You are an idiot.


25 posted on 06/18/2012 10:37:56 AM PDT by kidd
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To: freedumb2003
Someone needs to point out that kids ALWAYS suffer from the bad decisions of their parents.

Most criminals’ kids don’t have anything when Dad/Mom get taken away to jail. When an embezzler is caught, all of sudden all the assets are gone and the rest of the family moves from the Hamptons to a tenement in the Bronx.


I was about to post this exact same statement! When a bank robber is caught, do the children get to keep the money? When an embezzler is caught, do the children get to stay living in the house and driving the expensive cars that were ill-gotten gain? The answer to all of these questions is a simple and emphatic - NO!

Our laws should not be written based on the heart-strings, but on the foundation of what is RIGHT! The right thing to do is to send these kids back to their ancestors, back so that they can live and enjoy their origins!

Hell, you would think that the liberals would be screaming FOR this opportunity to be bi-lingual and to get in touch with their home-land ancestry! Lord knows they preach that crap to those born of America - LEGALLY!

The whole reason the Dems/Libs want this is for VOTES! Those illegally coming from poor nations are more likely to continue to vote for the US Government to supplement/provide for them - i.e., vote Democrat!

Those who suffer will be the children, but that is NOT Americas fault, that is not the fault of some "bad laws" - as the Dems and RINOs like to pretend! That suffering is the direct, illegal actions of their parents and unfortunately for them, they are caught in the melee and storm which follows.
26 posted on 06/18/2012 10:41:38 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: DoughtyOne
I'll leave the hissying to you since you're doing such a bang up job of it. ;^) But then you probably don't realize how amusing you are right now.
27 posted on 06/18/2012 10:41:48 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Sudetenland
You need to accept reality.

Looks like you are the one who needs to accept "reality." Reality is Romney IS going to be the Republican candidate...

Hummm, please point out where I said he wasn't going to be might Kong.  Oh that's right, I didn't.

...and he would be, in every way, better for America than a second term Obama would be.

In every way?  Well, when it comes to illegal immigrants, it's becoming clear that he wouldn't be better.  Did he promise to undo this action by Obama yet?  Oh, that's right.  NO!

Those who throw temper tantrums, such as yours, are generally those who are farthest from reality.

Well, folks can look at this post of yours and judge for themselves who is closer to reality.

28 posted on 06/18/2012 10:42:02 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: Windy City Conservative
Obama usurpation and dereliction merit immediate impeachment and removal
29 posted on 06/18/2012 10:43:09 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (TomHoefling.com)
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To: MHGinTN

Thanks for the Peewee Herman response.

“Ah, I know you, but what am I?”

LMAO


30 posted on 06/18/2012 10:43:42 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
RE :"Rubio’s plan would *not* provide a path to citizenship (nor a vote, of course),

But when asked at a briefing Thursday with English-language reporters if his plan would create a pathway to citizenship, Rubio insisted it wouldn't.
“I think the key difference is it doesn't create a special pathway for citizenship and thereby leads to illegal chain migration,” he said of the distinctions between his plan and the Democratic DREAM Act. “What it does it only puts them in the same position as any other holder of a non-immigrant visa, which is the opportunity to avail themselves of the existing legal immigration system whatever that system is at that time when they access it.”
Democratic leadership aides said Friday that Rubio seemed to be playing up the citizenship piece with Spanish-language press and downplaying it with English-language media.
But Rubio’s office on Friday strongly denied that was the case.
Alex Conant, a Rubio spokesman, said Friday that “there is nothing in his proposal that would prevent these kids from eventually becoming citizens. But unlike the current DREAM Act, it does not create special pathway to citizenship. If these kids want to become citizens, they would have to go through the same process as anyone else and wait in line.”
Under current law, children of illegal immigrants would have to go back to their country of origin before being awarded the appropriate visas through the U.S. immigration system. Rubio’s plan would allow certain children brought to the country illegally who have since completed high school or military service and don't have a criminal record to stay in the United States while accessing the existing immigration system, eventually giving them a chance to become naturalized citizens.
Anti-immigration activists call this a two-step process to “amnesty.” But Rubio says his proposal won't affect future entrants to the country, just the children who are here now, made the United States their home and now show promise.”

31 posted on 06/18/2012 10:44:50 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: DoughtyOne
"Should I keep back my opinions at such a time, through fear of giving offense, I should consider myself as guilty of treason towards my country, and of an act of disloyalty toward the Majesty of Heaven, which I revere above all earthly kings

...it is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the numbers of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it."

-- Patrick Henry, Give me liberty or give me death speech


32 posted on 06/18/2012 10:45:29 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (TomHoefling.com)
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To: DoughtyOne

Well I’m so glad I could break the frown from your face. Spittle on, spittle on


33 posted on 06/18/2012 10:49:57 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Thanks EternalVigilance. It is so sad to watch folks I generally respect roll over on important issues.

Illegal immigration is poised to turn this nation on it’s head. In reaction, we as Republicans are asked to remain muted to advance our cause.

Un fricken believable...


34 posted on 06/18/2012 10:50:22 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: MHGinTN

I understand what Rubio said and I “feel” some of it myself.

However, people of all ages who are here illegally have their own country. It is not inhumane to return them to it. It’s not their “fault” but it’s also not our fault. Blame your parents and work to get back in legally.

Oh but God forbid the parents should actually be responsible for their actions!

It actually makes no sense to judge a family’s legality based on their 15 y/o kid but why should anything make sense.


35 posted on 06/18/2012 10:53:47 AM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: MHGinTN

To say the least, it is worthy of note to watch people circulate the forum dropping s—t bombs regarding our players and their take on illegal immigration matters, accuse someone else of spittling on.


36 posted on 06/18/2012 10:54:13 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: GatĂşn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

“Go back to your parents’ homeland and go work for the Castro bothers.”


I’m sure you are aware as to how insulting and counterproductive it is to address someone whose family was prevented from returning to their homeland because of the Communist takeover as a “Marxist” and to tell them to “go work for the Castro brothers” (I fixed your typo for you). I think the only appropriate respose would be to tell you to fo F yourself, or to punch you in the nose. Alas, you’re hiding atop a mango tree somewhere in Panama, so you won’t be telling that to a Cuban-American’s face anytime soon.

“By the way, I read here on FR a few weeks ago or less he has made political exaggerations/lies about his personal life to make himself look like something special.”


You mean when liberals decided to defame Senator Rubio’s parents and family by claiming that they weren’t really kicked out of their homeland by Castro? Marco Rubio refuted the argument quickly and effectively, and every conservative who read it understood right away that the liberal media were trying to fabricate a story out of thin air. Senator Rubio’s parents moved to FL in the late 1950s and worked there for a few years, and were set to return to Cuba in 1961. Marco’s mother flew back to Cuba with his older siblings while his father stayed in Florida and wound up affairs before meeting up with them. However, his mother discovered that things were past the point of no return under Castro, who was proving to be a Communist, and the Rubios decided that they couldn’t raise their family in such a place so his mother and siblings returned to Florida and waited for Castro to fall. We are all still waiting for that. To say that the Rubios weren’t Cuban exiles is an insult that only a liberal could concoct, and I’, dismayed to hear a conservative such as yourself repeating such lies.

There are very good arguments one can make against Rubio’s bill, but you don’t seem to know any, if your ad hominem attacks and insults are all that you see fit to post.


37 posted on 06/18/2012 10:55:38 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: Windy City Conservative
If you were four years old when your parents brought you here illegally, and you have grown up here your whole life and don’t even speak Spanish, and you are your high school’s valedictorian, you have a lot to contribute to our future

I wonder what the ratio of valedictorians to gang bangers is

38 posted on 06/18/2012 10:57:16 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: fatnotlazy

Losing credibility fast with this sort of positon, must be drinking from McCain’s bottle.


39 posted on 06/18/2012 11:00:09 AM PDT by izzatzo (Just beat Obama.)
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To: Williams

It is sad to acknowledge that too many of our fellow Americans are more than willing to set the law aside when the democrats and the fifth column media stroke ther emotions. We have a poster on this very thread spittling as fast as she can type because she’s been manipulated into irrational response.


40 posted on 06/18/2012 11:00:12 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN; DoughtyOne
RE :”If there is nothing to be done about the choice of Rominy or little bastard commie, then why not vote for the removal of the commie while voting for as many real conservatives as you can find on your ballot?

In this case Romney clearly lied his way to nomination taking the most anti-illegal stances against Perry and Newt (’self deportation’), and now after winning it he is a new Romney (same as the old lib Romney) who yesterday wouldn't even say if he would reverse Obama’s move, but implied he wouldnt(’self deportation’ is history) . Romney played the most conservative when he was the most liberal.

Need to keep a close eye on him

:

Liberal Republican Romney, Romney is a liberal.

41 posted on 06/18/2012 11:02:02 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: Windy City Conservative

There is no damn “growing consensus” about the children of these criminals, unless it is that NONE of them should ever become legal, and that the children should go back with their parents or drug mules.


42 posted on 06/18/2012 11:03:55 AM PDT by alstewartfan ("You were trying to chisel a perfect truth When the instrument broke in your hand." Al Stewart)
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To: fatnotlazy

Rubio is McCain v.2.


43 posted on 06/18/2012 11:04:16 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: sickoflibs

Yes in deed, We The People need to remove little barry and then keep a close and restrictive eye on Milt Rominy. It will be refreshing to have more folks actually exercising their sovereign responsibilities instead of trusting the Bushes to take care of things. Of course, Milt is such a disgusting man he might yet pick ‘the Jeb’ as his veep! If that happens, I doubt I’ll have any hair left for the midterm elections.


44 posted on 06/18/2012 11:07:05 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Oh, please. There is no way to prove who is “here now” and who comes in to take advantage of more freebies courtesy of the few taxpayers who are left.

I am so glad I saw through Rubio from the start.


45 posted on 06/18/2012 11:07:17 AM PDT by Politicalmom (THIS IS NOT A GOP CHEERLEADING SITE!!!)
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To: Windy City Conservative
Rubio and Romney are going to hand Obama 4 more years.

I am at a loss with the republicans... they insist on handing BHO a victory at every turn...

46 posted on 06/18/2012 11:08:21 AM PDT by PauldArco
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To: sickoflibs

They don’t mind if we keep our eye on him. We’re just supposed to keep our yap shut if we see something bad.

From here on out Romney could dismantle this nation down to the cornerstones, and we’ll be framed as the enemies of Conservatism if we address it.

Remain silent regarding Romney?

Fat chance...


47 posted on 06/18/2012 11:11:40 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: MHGinTN; DoughtyOne
RE :”Yes in deed, We The People need to remove little barry and then keep a close and restrictive eye on Milt Rominy. It will be refreshing to have more folks actually exercising their sovereign responsibilities instead of trusting the Bushes to take care of things. Of course, Milt is such a disgusting man he might yet pick ‘the Jeb’ as his veep! If that happens, I doubt I’ll have any hair left for the midterm elections.

I don't try to tell people who to vote for when the situation/choice is this bad but I suggest we not let the MA lib believe our vote is ‘in the bag’ or by election day we will have two Obama’s on the ballot.

Just by nature of being the head of the ONLY opposition party (RINO party) Romney can do much damage that Obama can't. I will probably decide my vote very late like I did in 2008. This stinks to all hell to chooose between a liberal (MR)and progressive (0).

Remember RNC Steele who now works for MSNBC ? He was a disaster.

48 posted on 06/18/2012 11:14:47 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: DoughtyOne
RE :”They don’t mind if we keep our eye on him. We’re just supposed to keep our yap shut if we see something bad.
From here on out Romney could dismantle this nation down to the cornerstones, and we’ll be framed as the enemies of Conservatism if we address it.
Remain silent regarding Romney?

Have you been getting my Romney pings lately? My mission is to expose EVERY reversal of his primary conservative positions. We knew this was coming,

I think this one we are in 100% agreement on.

Havent we met someplace before ? :) A Bush thread maybe..

49 posted on 06/18/2012 11:20:19 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: sickoflibs

So, as I wrote, Rubio’s bill doesn’t create a path to citizenship.

I don’t support Rubio’s bill. However, I must admit that it is very politically astute of him to introduce such a bill, since it (i) takes away from the pro-amnesty folks the only good poster children they have and (ii) doesn’t create a path to citizenship, which the Democrat DREAM Act does. Obama agrees that Rubio’s bill is brilliant politics, which is why he’s trying to keep it from coming to the Senate floor. And I think that we should debate this issue based on the facts, and facing realities, not by using slogans such as “RINO!” and “amnesty!” when such terms are not applicable.


50 posted on 06/18/2012 11:21:07 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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