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A Tale of Two Conservatives
The Wall Street Journal ^ | June 18, 2012 | WSJ Editorial Board

Posted on 06/18/2012 12:20:05 PM PDT by CDB

One test for economic conservatives is whether they are willing to oppose constituent business interests looking for government favoritism. On that score, two recent contrasting votes by Jim DeMint of South Carolina and Marco Rubio of Florida are instructive.

The political habit of favoring big business is bipartisan, as the sugar and Ex-Im Bank votes show. If Republicans want the political credibility to reform middle-class entitlements, they had better be prepared to eliminate corporate welfare too. Kudos to Mr. DeMint for understanding this.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: corporatewelfare; cronycapitalism; demint; rubio; subsidies
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1 posted on 06/18/2012 12:20:13 PM PDT by CDB
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To: CDB

Corporate Welfare

It dismays me to hear someone adopt the title created by the left to advance what they think is Conservatism.

Who benefits from corporate welfare? Isn’t it share holders in the long run? Of course it is.

So what we’re talking about here, is fixing middle class entitlements, and then killing their stock and mutual fund income as well.

Wow. Lets hear it for Conservatism (this type)... NOT!

This isn’t Conservatism. It’s open season on the middle class.

Since when are welfare queens part of the middle-class? I’ll bet this doesn’t involve them at all either.


2 posted on 06/18/2012 12:34:51 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: CDB

The economic conservative/social liberal a mythical beast that will ALWAYS err on the side of liberalism.


3 posted on 06/18/2012 12:39:42 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: DoughtyOne
Who benefits from corporate welfare? Isn’t it share holders in the long run?

How are Solyndra shareholders doing?

4 posted on 06/18/2012 12:47:59 PM PDT by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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To: Hugin

That’s a fair question. I don’t consider what was done with Solyndra to be your typical Corporate welfare though.

The loan guarantees or whatever Solyndra actually got, couldn’t be justified on any level.

The business plan couldn’t have been sustained. We gave them money anyway.


5 posted on 06/18/2012 12:51:38 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: DoughtyOne
Who benefits from corporate welfare? Isn’t it share holders in the long run?

In the long run everybody loses when the government plays favorites, as it does with the Export-Import Bank (the subject of the article). The term "corporate welfare" may be abused by the Left, but it has a meaningful referent and in its true incarnations should indeed be opposed by conservatives.

6 posted on 06/18/2012 12:55:26 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Corporate Welfare isn’t about tax abatements or “pay-for-play” schemes. It is about more or less ^regulation^ in each specific sector.

Less regulation is a conservative value, exchanging money and political favors with the party in power is not.


7 posted on 06/18/2012 12:57:35 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: DoughtyOne
This isn’t Conservatism. It’s open season on the middle class.

The term "corporate welfare" is, indeed, misused. Often the left refers to common tax deductions as "corporate welfare" which is, of course, dishonest.

But the Export-Import Bank is government-sponsored welfare for corporations which should be taking on the risk of selling on their own.

Later in the article, we learn of Rubio's helping to maintain the sugar import quotas which keep a few well-connected Floridians in the sugar cane business and cost American citizens (and that includes middle-class citizens) some $3 billion a year in higher sugar costs as well as lost candy-production jobs to Mexico.

Try not to let your dislike of the term "corporate welfare" [and I understand your complaint that it originated on the left] blind you to inappropriate government favoritism to certain companies using our money.

8 posted on 06/18/2012 2:05:22 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: CDB
Sugar subsidies, at first in the form of tariffs, go back to Henry Clay's day, maybe even George Washington's.

Expecting a Florida Senator to vote against them ... well, it's not gonna happen.

9 posted on 06/18/2012 2:12:56 PM PDT by x
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
Less regulation is a conservative value, exchanging money and political favors with the party in power is not.

Too bad so many "conservatives" don't understand that simple fact.



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10 posted on 06/18/2012 3:22:09 PM PDT by rdb3 (If you were tried in court for being a Christian, would there be enough evidence to convict you?)
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To: BfloGuy

As a Conservative, I agree that there are government abuses, as they relate to corporations. I just want reasoned heads to prevail when it comes to addressing what the left thinks of as abuses.


11 posted on 06/18/2012 4:10:07 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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