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Uh Oh: Elizabeth Warren Refuses to Meet with 4 Cherokee Activists
Townhall.com ^ | June 18, 2012 | Daniel Doherty

Posted on 06/18/2012 1:35:11 PM PDT by Kaslin

Remember when the Boston Globe prematurely declared this political scandal over last May? Good times.

 

Four outraged Cherokee activists who say Elizabeth Warren’s campaign has ignored their emails and phone calls will trek to Boston this week in hopes they can force a meeting with the Democratic Senate candidate over her “offensive” Native American heritage claims.

“It’s almost becoming extremely offensive to us,” said Twila Barnes, a Cherokee genealogist who has researched Warren’s family tree. “We’re trying to get in contact and explain why her behavior hurts us and is offensive, and she totally ignores that. Like we don’t exist.”

Late last night, a Warren campaign official told the Herald that staffers will “connect” and “offer to have staff meet with them.”

“We would like to see her look at the documentation and admit there’s no Indian ancestry there and then apologize,” Barnes saud. “Hear us. Acknowledge us. Know that she’s brought us into this. We didn’t bring ourselves into this. This whole trip was planned to get a meeting with her.”

Barnes said there is still no evidence, despite research conducted by her and other genealogists, to support Warren’s claim of Cherokee roots.

 

These four Cherokee activists aren’t the only Native Americans offended by Elizabeth Warren's ancestral claims. As we reported last week, an enraged Harvard University alumna named Margo (Kickingbird) DeLaune (who, by the way, belongs to the Kiowa tribe of Oklahoma and is a registered Democrat), penned a joint op-ed with her son criticizing the Senate candidate’s conduct and urging the Harvard community to hold her “accountable for the damage she has wrought.” And, incidentally, much like DeLaune’s crusade for truth and justice, these particular Cherokee activists’ aren’t motived by politics or partisanship, either.

 

Politics isn’t a motivator, Barnes insisted. One of the women is a registered Democrat, and the other three are left-leaning independents, said Barnes, who said she voted for President Obama in 2008.

 

In any case, it’s not surprising “Granny” Warren is hesitant to meet with these individuals – after all, she’s failed to produce one single shred of evidence corroborating her tenuous claim that she is “1/32” Cherokee. What’s baffling, however, is that she simply refuses to renounce her “heritage” or apologize for her actions (her grandfather’s “high cheek bones” notwithstanding) especially when it’s painfully evident her conduct has offended Native Americans across the United States. If -- if -- Elizabeth Warren does apologize at some point, it would seem to suggest that she is indeed guilty of academic fraud. On the other hand, if she continues to hide from the Native American community -- and evade their unwelcome questions -- the backlash is likely to be more pronounced.

In short, one thing is clear: Cherokee activists want her to apologize for committing (what they consider to be) academic and ethnic fraud; and they’re not going away until she does.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: activists; cherokee; elizabethwarren; fauxcahontas; indians; kiowa; massachusetts; meet; refuses; warren
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1 posted on 06/18/2012 1:35:15 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Perhaps there is an old family dispute that’s the blame?


2 posted on 06/18/2012 1:36:19 PM PDT by tsowellfan (Should Obama recuse himself from making any decisions on immigration?)
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To: tsowellfan

She’s in heap big trouble. She’s probably hitting the fire water about now.


3 posted on 06/18/2012 1:44:19 PM PDT by mkmensinger
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To: Kaslin

Look out Lizzie!...The indians are on the war path!


4 posted on 06/18/2012 1:46:23 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: mkmensinger

I’m waiting for somebody from the MSM to ask if her adult children used the Native American ploy for college and grad school admission preferences, scholarships, and job applications.


5 posted on 06/18/2012 1:47:43 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: mkmensinger

Smoke signals say she in deep buffalo muffins!...


6 posted on 06/18/2012 1:48:42 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: mkmensinger
She’s in heap big trouble. She’s probably hitting the fire water about now.

She should have heap big pow wow with the Cherokee folks and pass a peace pipe around, helpful if peace pipe be filled with wacky weed.

7 posted on 06/18/2012 1:48:55 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Obama versus Romney? Cyanide versus arsenic.)
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To: Kaslin
Like we don’t exist.

She probably thinks all Indians are as fake as her.

8 posted on 06/18/2012 1:49:43 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: Kaslin

9 posted on 06/18/2012 1:51:33 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Sow the wind...reap the whirlwind!)
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To: Kaslin

Howe Carr (Boston radio talk host) mentioned today that her high school yearbook had her listed as a “Betty Crocker Homemaker of the Future.” Apparently the title was awarded by faculty. No kidding. Lolz!


10 posted on 06/18/2012 1:52:27 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: Kaslin

11 posted on 06/18/2012 1:52:52 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: Kaslin

Ironic that she did all of this to make friends, meet people like her.......


12 posted on 06/18/2012 1:54:53 PM PDT by GotMojo
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To: Kaslin

Granny think-um the crap she get-um from Right Wing Nuts
get-um heap old! You no comment on thread!

13 posted on 06/18/2012 1:54:53 PM PDT by Zakeet (We have to go spend money to keep from going bankrupt - Joe Biden)
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To: Graybeard58

She’s had quite enough wacky weed and it shows.


14 posted on 06/18/2012 1:55:41 PM PDT by mkmensinger
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To: Kaslin

They are 1% Cherokees.

Not like her, part of the 99% tribe.


15 posted on 06/18/2012 1:55:46 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: tflabo

In Tonto’s defense, Jay Silverheels was Native American. Now Ed “Mingo” Ames. He’s from Malden, MA


16 posted on 06/18/2012 1:56:19 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Repeat Offender

“She probably thinks all Indians are as fake as her.”

With the 1/32 standard, many probably aredamned close.


17 posted on 06/18/2012 1:58:36 PM PDT by Gil4 (Sometimes it's not low self-esteem - it's just accurate self-assessment.)
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To: nascarnation

I’m waiting for somebody from the MSM......and waiting, and waiting! No dirt on conservatives or republicans? Just some crooked leftist liberal lying about their heritage or something... no news here. They’ll just wait.


18 posted on 06/18/2012 1:58:45 PM PDT by Bitsy
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To: Kaslin

Liz has no time to meet. She is too busy flipping wigwams.


19 posted on 06/18/2012 1:59:34 PM PDT by ILS21R (John Locke: When the social contract is broken, the people must revolt.)
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To: Kaslin

Heck, I have more Cherokee blood in my veins than this turnip.


20 posted on 06/18/2012 2:03:02 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: Kaslin
New and Improved!
Now with more Live Cherokees!


21 posted on 06/18/2012 2:05:01 PM PDT by Iron Munro (John Adams: 'Two ways to enslave a country. One is by the sword, the other is by debt')
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To: Kaslin
Indian Love Song (with apologies to Slim Whitman)
22 posted on 06/18/2012 2:05:36 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Kaslin
It’s almost becoming extremely offensive to us,

Could you possibly make a statement that's any lamer?

How close is it to being "extremely offensive" ?

23 posted on 06/18/2012 2:06:51 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Gil4

With the 1/32 standard, many probably aredamned close.

If 1/32 standard made her Indian, what does 1/2 caucasian make Obama-—A WHITEY! White eyes, honkey!


24 posted on 06/18/2012 2:11:48 PM PDT by Bitsy
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To: tsowellfan

Get the sodas and beer out...pop some popcorn.....this is the reality hit show of the season....it just keeps on giving entertainment.

Trying to figure out what to call it though...hmmmmm?

“Cherokee Princes”?


25 posted on 06/18/2012 2:17:36 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: Kaslin

Squaw no wannum smokum peace pipe.


26 posted on 06/18/2012 2:25:20 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: Kaslin
two bits, four bits, six bits c'mon Pocahantas, show us your butter boobs
27 posted on 06/18/2012 2:27:50 PM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Puckster

28 posted on 06/18/2012 2:41:51 PM PDT by tsowellfan (Should Obama recuse himself from making any decisions on immigration?)
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To: smoothsailing

Excellent


29 posted on 06/18/2012 2:46:03 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

PS. I'm about as expert at Photoshop as Liz is Cherokee!

30 posted on 06/18/2012 2:58:58 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: Zakeet

Liz on horse looks like she can be girlfriend material of Stephen Hawking. Hope he likes liar, atheist ‘Blonde Crow’ Indian wannabe Skwarks?


31 posted on 06/18/2012 3:06:16 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: Kaslin
She will endeavor to persevere.
32 posted on 06/18/2012 3:19:25 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Kaslin

Warren is not a Cherokee...but she played one in college.


33 posted on 06/18/2012 3:36:11 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: Kaslin

This will all just blow away. She found the magic key that solves this problem — blame it on her mother who claimed she had Native American blood. There are probably many among us who have had family members tell us that they were related to the first occupants on the Mayflower or the 2nd cousin of William Wallace or King Arthur or Grace O’Malley.


34 posted on 06/18/2012 3:52:10 PM PDT by Kevmo (SUCINOFRAGOPWIASS: Shut Up, CINOs; Free Republic Aint a GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: tsowellfan
Warren would be proud as an injun of the accurate characterization of her multicultural background.

Good Job!

35 posted on 06/18/2012 3:56:17 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: Kaslin

What !!!!! ,,,, no Pow Wow ?????


36 posted on 06/18/2012 4:53:40 PM PDT by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: massgopguy
“In Tonto’s defense, Jay Silverheels was Native American. Now Ed “Mingo” Ames. He’s from Malden, MA”


I think in the new film coming up, Jonny Depp is going to play Tonto.

37 posted on 06/18/2012 5:19:19 PM PDT by hummingbird (Breitbart and Spartacus: here, there, everywhere.)
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To: Kevmo
blame it on her mother who claimed she had Native American blood.

Won't work. She had plenty of time to verify before scoring on the benefits.

38 posted on 06/18/2012 5:44:12 PM PDT by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Libloather

It does not matter that she had time to verify it. The media protect libs. Kind of a high duhh factor on this one...


39 posted on 06/18/2012 6:20:26 PM PDT by Kevmo (SUCINOFRAGOPWIASS: Shut Up, CINOs; Free Republic Aint a GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Kaslin

What a loser.


40 posted on 06/18/2012 6:31:44 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: tsowellfan
Perhaps there is an old family dispute that’s the blame?
You mean like their great-grandparents being some of the little kids her great-great-grandpa helped round up & march to Oklahoma?

I really can't understand why this is still an issue; didn't Supreme Chief Ward Churchill, himself, vouch for her heritage? /sarc

41 posted on 06/18/2012 6:47:09 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: ILS21R
She is too busy flipping wigwams.
Is that similar to tipping outhouses?
42 posted on 06/18/2012 6:51:25 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: Kaslin

Pure craziness - it is still fraud as far as I’m concerned even if it had been true that she is 1/32 Cherokee for her to claim she is a Native American ‘minority’ race.


43 posted on 06/18/2012 7:45:39 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Kevmo

Actually there are quite legitimate Welsh genealogies that run back to King Ad.


44 posted on 06/18/2012 8:15:03 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Republican Wildcat
There are three bands of Cherokee sufficiently noteworthy to get their rules looked at. One band requires 1/32 blood quanta. The others have a higher standard, but that has to be Cherokee. Being 63/64 Apache and 1/64 Cherokee would be disqualified.

Recently one major band of Cherokee has been trying to expel black Cherokees.

Earlier they got into some decades long court cases against the Delaware!

Some recognized Indian tribes keep their tribal rolls secret so there's no way an outsider can ever qualify for membership based on blood quanta. However, there are OTHER records. The Oneida, for example, were American allies in the American Revolution. There were something like 75 top quality warriors who fought in major engagements against the Brits. ALL OF THEM have been named by the Oneida, and they do appear in New York Revolutionary War records.

A fair percentage of them appear in the records of the Old Yellow Church as converts. Standard genealogical examination can demonstrate your ties to the Oneida, or not, fairly quickly. Your biggest problem is that paternal lineage is not big with the Iroquois ~ they use matrilineal accounting ~ just like the ancient Hebrews.

45 posted on 06/18/2012 8:24:06 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: tsowellfan
She's already named the Delaware/Cherokee dispute (one parent has links to the Delaware and one to the Cherokee). There are decades of court cases regarding that dispute! She cites that piece of bad blood as the reason her folks left Tulsa to get married.

Then there's this current wave of racial intrigue among some of the Cherokee where they're trying to kick out the black Cherokee.

I wouldn't vote for Warren for a million bucks but if I were her I wouldn't meet with ANY Cherokee unless they proved their bona fides too ~ and could demonstrate their band had never been involved in disputes with the Delaware or black people in their tribe.

46 posted on 06/18/2012 8:29:53 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Gil4
Supposedly one of the presidents of one of the major bands is but 1/32.

The trick with the Cherokee is you MUST have an ancestor in the Dawes Rolls. If your Cherokee ancestors failed to get listed you can't get into one of the recognized tribes. That does not mean you are no longer a Cherokee, just that you can't joint a recognized tribe.

47 posted on 06/18/2012 8:34:04 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

warren’s war on Indians! :)


48 posted on 06/18/2012 8:34:27 PM PDT by isom35
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
LOL!

Her smok'm too much POS pipe.

49 posted on 06/18/2012 8:39:25 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (I prefer liberty with danger to peace with slavery, IXNAY THE TSA!)
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To: Bitsy
Used to be the 'one drop' rule was in force so if you had any knowledge of a black ancestor you kept your mouth shut. BTW, except in a handful of states, folks known to be Indian in any degree were identified as 'not white'.

It's only recently become popular for white folks to admit to Indian ancestry. Black folks have been into that for more than a century.

Now, how many white folks have Indian ancestry in this country. Well, to start with, there's a genetic marker ~ shovel teeth. If you got 'em and have no known East Asian or Cossack ancestry, you're in the zone ~ and that has been known for years to be 2%. Since that's an autosomal recessive, there'd be another 2% with no shovel tooth gene at all, and 4% with a recessive gene that could be identified. That's a grand total 8% of the white population have to have an American Indian ancestor.

That'd be well over 15 million people! The recognized tribes have no where near that number of members.

Going well beyond that group, there another 9 million white folks who have some or a lot of Sa'ami (Laplander) ancestry in this country. That's roughly 100 times the number of Sa'ami in Europe!

50 posted on 06/18/2012 8:42:35 PM PDT by muawiyah
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