Skip to comments.Russia prepares to send warships to Syria
Posted on 06/18/2012 4:19:16 PM PDT by RaceBannonEdited on 06/18/2012 4:26:47 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Russia has announced it is readying two warships to sail to Syria to protect Russian citizens, in a sign that it is taking precautions against a worsening of the security situation there.
A spokesman for Russia’s Black Sea fleet, Vyacheslav Trukhachev, told Russia’s Interfax news agency the mission would be undertaken “in case of necessity”. His comments appeared designed to clarify speculation that warships had already set sail for Syria. Interfax had earlier quoted an anonymous official as saying that was the case on Monday morning.
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To evacuate the WMD the Russians moved to Syria when GWB invaded Iraq
Russia has a naval base in Syria.
Are black sea marines an elite group or something? I keep seeing references to ‘black sea marines’ like they’re something special.
How is it that Putin and Obama aren't riding a bicycle built for two?
I thought us selling out the Poles and Czechs was going to but some god will.
I feel like I need a shower/s
Obama seems very displeased with Puttie...So,I am conflicted.
I don’t know about elite, but I would imagine they share much of the same duties that the United States’ Marine Expeditionary Units share; large, re-enforced force with much more training at the company level (Next “layer” up would be a MEU-SOC; very nasty force to have pissed at you.)
An interesting qualifier: while retaining the country's current boundaries. The Russians think the boundaries of Syria are in play? How so? A Kurdish state, to include the Kurdish areas of Iraq and Turkey, with access to the sea through the Kurdish area of Syria?
This was to be another victory for the moslem brotherhood (egypt, libya, and syria), thus zer0 is displeased Putin is standing in the way of who zer0 supports.
It’s a perfectly good opportunity to butt out. Let the Russians have it...they will live to regret it when the chickens come home to roost in Chechnya. It’s too late for the US to exercise influence in that God-forsaken place, so let it boil.
Instead, we should stand ready to help Lebanon. Lebanon will be the primary beneficiary of Syria’s collapse. Lebanon used to be the Riviera of the East Coast of the Med. Now it’s...well, it’s Beirut.
Saw where UK stopped the ship with the helicopters for syria from Russia. Canceled the insurance (on the ship) and utilized this (as excuse) to stop the shipment. One can imagine the diplomatic channels are at the fry point.
You forgot the sarcasm tag.
Could this be a move against Israel?
Calling Joel Rosenberg..... Another one of your books coming to a planet near you...
Time to dust off my Ezekiel commentary and start digging in the Word!
Power will fill a vacuum. Obamugabe has given up on our allies in the Middle East, so the Soviet trained Putin will fill it.
This is huge
Maybe. Coupled with the joint FTX w/Iran, Ivan, and Assad, who knows?
The Bible (Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth) have had many prophecies come true, some more than just once. Beware Isiah, and Ezekiel regarding Damascus and Megido.
This positioning of forces for Russia, the training with possible allies, the arab winter, all could be part of the final chapter.
>Are black sea marines an elite group or something?<
They are NOT black — but they have the same DNA that beat the Nazis all the way from Stalingrad to Berlin.
I saw that thread — scary, if it’s true. That’s why Israel was at the top of my mind when I saw this.
It was huge when Russia decided to move its Fleet intothe Med several years ago.
Now they are using that fleet to prtoject power in the face of Obama’s weakness in the region.
There goes the “Arab Spring” Buahahahahahaha!
The Russians are about to displace any US influence in Egypt, Libya,Syria and Iran.
Thank you so called President Obama. Thank you for THAT hope and Change.
Pastor, do not know why yet am not worried. Guess my dream (or thought) of Jesus waving the Star and Stripes (Israeli flag) keeps me from going insane.
Correct. Russia sends warships to Syria all the time. Syria is an ally.
Yup, the Lord is in control.
I know how you feel. I was rooting for Col Kadaffi in Libya against my own country a few months ago.
Does China have a base in Syria as well?
We should send a couple of carrier groups to the area. Create a false flag event to get things rolling, sink their ships in ‘retaliation’, and use tactical nukes against their bases in Syria. It would restart the Cold War, boost the economy, and unite a majority of the country in a common purpose with “Communism” as the enemy.
/partial sarc (that WOULD be a little interesting/fun to watch)
Batchelor is a military cluleless hypster.
This whole story consists of people frantically hyping a subject they don’t know anything about.
Let's watch and see.
Agree, we don't need anymore lives, limbs, or treasure spent on these unappreciative tribal barbarians. Let Russia have Syria. What is the down side?
The one thing I learned while being a "cold war" sailor is that Russians (and past Soviets) actually care about there children. That's why MAD worked so well. The Islamists live to die and take their women and children with them. If Russia can stall the 7th century madness of 21st high-tech ability, I say let them, so as not on our dime.
If given open season, I believe Russia will put Iran down, commerce or not. As for China, they won't align with Russia to attack the US, we owe them too much. That's a paranoid falsehood. The world is too economically entertwined. It's all chess, and I see Russia about to check the middle east. Better they die, then our children.
And if Russia or China gets too uppity and powerful, here is a warm thought for you...always think Trident! They are out there an no one knows where, unless Obama wants to "leak" their locations, but then they simply move according the Joint Chiefs. They alone could blow much of the world away. MAD is still the best game in town except for Islamist crazies. Again, let Russia deal with them. I don't want to see one more coffin or prosthetics on our children.
if it keeps another middle eastern state from being ruled by islamic law??....GO VLAD!
Do you truly think we owe the Chinese so much that the possibility of obtaining all US natural resources through an attack is off the table. We have so many assets that I cannot imagine Russia and China not considering it. Seems to be a ripe time to attempt to conquer America... We are divided, broke, militarily weakened. I think our natural resources AND making yourself top global dog, far outweigh any debts we owe China. Russia, China and Iran are not certainly sitting around the table simply discussing Syria.
I agree with you, assuming that the Russians will stay neatly in that box you describe. IMHO eventually they will control almost all of Europes energy resources and start pulling those chains, which is what this is ALL really about( that is not in the box you described).
Are all those “Russian citizens” they’re so concerned about, by any chance employees of independent security contractors?
I smell Gog and Magog coming together very well with the Russian, Syria and Iran coming together in a military alliance. China chomping at the bit to cross the dried up river with the army of 200 million. You can almost hear the footsteps of Jesus. He is right at the door.
zer0 is going to be even more displeased when Russia reinforces Syria with enough firepower to make the whole world sit up and take notice. Pootie-poot has had four whole years to manufacture, plan, train, prepare. I thought from the beginning that someone somewhere was going to take advantage of American weakness and ineptitude to redraw some international borders. If I’m right, Russjie is going to come down hard, as in with an iron boot, in the ME and say... deal me in.
Not just the Kurdish area but remember the Golan Heights also. The Israelis haven’t annexed it yet but I expect they will if there is a big disruption in Syrian gov’t. But since the Russians lost Ukraine they don’t have their big Black Sea base either——their base in Syria is extremely valuable to them and protecting it against Syrian changes explains most of their actions to this point. Not to mention the money Asshat owes Putin. Ivan is getting sick of arabs welching on their arms debts no doubt.
There are Syrian refugee camps on every border. It wouldn’t be surprising at all if Jordan, Lebanon, Turkey, Iraq AND Israel all decided to take a piece of Syria——in memory of Attaturk, of course.
Capable bunch no doubt but this time they don’t have an endless supply of American aluminum, locomotives, or Studebaker trucks.
The carrier groups are already there. By my count the Bush and the Lincoln are near by. A stupid move by any particular dumbass would bring “severe corrective action” whether Obamuzzie liked it or not.
I don’t think it is Israel.
The greatest threat to both China and Russia is Islam. They want to keep it in check. China’s #1 priority is stability. When you have a billion and a half people in your country, you have keep them from getting pissed off at you. Muslims cause trouble in China.
Russia has a bad history with the Muslims.
They don’t want to lose Syria to the radicals.
Russia has indeed always wanted that north/south Iranian rail line. Remember how we used it during WW II to supply the backside of Russia with trucks, aluminum, etc.? I don’t see the downside of Putin explaining to the Mullahs that they’d be running the railroad for awhile.
Always, always, ALWAYS remember there are something north of 300 million PRIVATE firearms in this country. The other guys know that in spades. They all remember Admiral Yamamoto warning his own high command that a land invasion of north America would be suicidal because it would face a gun behind every bush. It pees ‘em off just as much as it bothers some in our own gov’t but it is our largest ace-in-the-hole as long as the owners stand ready to use them. That is the largest collection of private firepower in the known universe and no one, repeat NO ONE,is going to challenge it on the ground.
you are correct (imho) of your assessment. Everyone has to have the oil for their economic engines to run. Everyone will show up for the oil. It was simply a matter of time and timing. Kind of reminds one of the conductor shouting, “All Aboard!” zer0 is the conductor cause only fools would want him driving the train.
don’t know about the thought of nobody wanting to challenge us on the ground. They might would leave us to ourselves in the dark for say six months to a year, and if our Military was allowed to we might turn off other countries lights ourselves, if our Military was allowed to. If our Military was not allowed to ... it makes it an entirely different game. Of course once some, in our Military, found out there would be heck and death for their commanders. Lots of variables, and one can guess what our current cic would do. He works for the enemy. Now six months to a year in the dark and it would only amount to a mop up operation to invade the United States (imho). Worst case scenario of the worst case scenarios yet one which (imho) has to be considered, if one is serious regarding surviving in lights out conditions.
The Spice Must Flow.
Don't believe your hypothesis for a second. The world is too economically enter-twined. Yes, some leaders of China and Russia want more power, but not at the cost of losing their economic advantage.
Forget the "cold war" and think. Why would China or Russia want to destroy their greatest economic importer? Why would they want to destroy their biggest debtor? They don't, but they do want more face and become more powerful in their regions. Fine, let them have them. We have numerous Tridents out there with the ability to destroy them and even the planet if they attack!
Everyone forgets about them. Most think ICBM's and bombers. Thankfully, China and Russia don't forget about our Tridents.
Agreed. Putin wants to look powerful, especially now that the USA has a weak president.
Still, since I'm no expert, what is the down side of Russia supporting the Syrian regime, other than they support terrorists? The US will still trade with Russia, and they will still be on the Security Council of the UN (f**k the UN), and still have nuclear weapons.
So someone tell me why we should care if Syria remains status quo? Even if they have their "Arab Spring", how good will that be?
Personally, the only nation I give a sh*t about in that region is Israel. What ever it takes to protect a freedom -loving democratic ally is what the US should be about. Screw every sick Muslim nation in the area. I couldn't care less if they all find allah tomorrow, and yes, I mean ALL of them.