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Face to Face, Obama Tries to Persuade Putin on Syria [Huge Foreign Policy Failure: Putin Dominates!]
NY Times ^ | June 18, 2012 | HELENE COOPER

Posted on 06/18/2012 6:37:28 PM PDT by Steelfish

Face to Face, Obama Tries to Persuade Putin on Syria

President Obama met with President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia at the Group of 20 summit in Los Cabos, Mexico, on Monday. By HELENE COOPER June 18, 2012

SAN JOSÉ DEL CABO, Mexico — President Obama and his Russian counterpart, Vladimir V. Putin, finally had their face-to-face meeting on Monday, as Mr. Obama pressed Mr. Putin to work with him to ease President Bashar al-Assad of Syria out of power, a move increasingly viewed by the West as the only way to end the bloodshed that has been under way there for more than a year.

“We have found many common points on this issue,” Mr. Putin said of Syria. But after two full hours together, Mr. Putin was still balking, appearing afterward with Mr. Obama before reporters in a grim tableau that seemed to bespeak the frustration on both sides. During the few minutes that it took their handlers to usher reporters out of the room after their prepared remarks, the two leaders remained seated, side by side, staring straight ahead, with none of the interaction or small talk that leaders usually engage in before the cameras. “We agreed that we need to see a cessation of the violence, that a political process has to be created to prevent civil war,” Mr. Obama said.

During the meeting, American officials said, Mr. Putin spent considerable time pointing to what the Russians view as failed examples of political transition in Egypt and Libya as well as their concern that the West does not have a credible plan for what would happen to Syria’s various battling factions and ethnic groups if Mr. Assad stepped down from power.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: israel; lebanon; nationalsecurityfail; syria; waronterror
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1 posted on 06/18/2012 6:37:37 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

Maybe they should just arm wrestle?


2 posted on 06/18/2012 6:39:13 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Steelfish

Is it bad if I say the Russia’s President is a bad ass and ours a fag?


3 posted on 06/18/2012 6:40:20 PM PDT by Red6
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To: Steelfish

Evil Putin is not about to throw Syria to Al-Qaeda. What a bastard. Obama has to do something!


4 posted on 06/18/2012 6:40:59 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: Steelfish
Iconic image of the whole abortion Obama's foreign policy has become: Steely-eyed KGB master Putin staring down the pusillanimous, small time gutless chicago neighborhood thug.
5 posted on 06/18/2012 6:40:59 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Red6

The zero didn’t offer to kiss his pee pee.


6 posted on 06/18/2012 6:42:48 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Red6
Is it bad if I say the Russia’s President is a bad ass and ours a fag?

Yeah, I'll bet our pencil-necked, pipe-stem armed, faggot of a (p)resident scared the hell out of Putin.

Isn't it something how embarrassing this White House has become. I would love to know what Putin thinks when he looks into the eyes of this bad-breathed punk telling him what to do.

7 posted on 06/18/2012 6:43:54 PM PDT by laweeks
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To: Steelfish

Was there ever any doubt? Putin is a trained KGB agent, an experienced field officer, a judoka, and he undoubtedly shares the typical Russian fascination with chess.

Obama is so far out of his league it’s pathetic.

Putting him into the same room with Putin was like putting a retarded pigeon in the same room with a cat.


8 posted on 06/18/2012 6:45:58 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: Paladin2

Putin could remove his shirt and Obama could giggle


9 posted on 06/18/2012 6:45:58 PM PDT by molson209
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To: hinckley buzzard

Yeah, something tells me that Putin is impervious to Obama’s “charm”. In fact, I’ll bet he had a hard time keeping a straight face through the whole encounter.


10 posted on 06/18/2012 6:54:02 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: Ronin

Putting him into the same room with Putin was like putting a retarded pigeon in the same room with a cat.


Not just a retarded pigeon, but a retarded, Marxist pigeon. I wonder how many times Obama apologized to Putin for this or that?


11 posted on 06/18/2012 6:55:44 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: Steelfish

Not to worry, the Interloper has Vlad’s back...

American Crossroads: Operation Hot Mic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Czo5Vf8KZs


12 posted on 06/18/2012 6:56:18 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: Red6

The American people may not know who Obama is, but no doubt the KGB knows. They’d probably consider blackmail if he wasn’t already on their side.


13 posted on 06/18/2012 6:56:51 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The First Bystander must be removed!)
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To: hinckley buzzard

You express my thoughts, or close enough for government work. All day I’ve had this horrible image in my mind of Obama bowing to a fellow Communist. I guess this is what the “other America” wanted when they elected this anti-American totalitarian.


14 posted on 06/18/2012 6:58:43 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Steelfish
During the meeting, American officials said, Mr. Putin spent considerable time pointing to what the Russians view as failed examples of political transition in Egypt and Libya as well as their concern that the West does not have a credible plan for what would happen to Syria’s various battling factions and ethnic groups if Mr. Assad stepped down from power.

Yeah well, you got a point there Mr. Putin.
Of course that assumes that we aren't dealing with the strategy of a blundering idiot, or someone who desires to see Islamic radicals take over as many government as possible.

15 posted on 06/18/2012 6:59:31 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: hinckley buzzard

That’s an insult to all small time Chicago thugs. They’d do their own dirty work. Obama would get someone in the community to do it for him.

Putin could make him fold a full house with just one glare.


16 posted on 06/18/2012 7:00:01 PM PDT by ibytoohi (What the hell has happened to my country?)
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To: Red6
Is it bad if I say the Russia’s President is a bad ass and ours a fag?

Obama wants to have Pootie's babies.


17 posted on 06/18/2012 7:01:29 PM PDT by Iron Munro (John Adams: 'Two ways to enslave a country. One is by the sword, the other is by debt')
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18 posted on 06/18/2012 7:01:34 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Steelfish

Putty is no fool. It’s interesting that the “American officials” cited are not covering up for Obum, and that the NYSlimes is reporting on it.


19 posted on 06/18/2012 7:04:47 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Paladin2

I’d even pay to see that!


20 posted on 06/18/2012 7:13:52 PM PDT by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: Steelfish

Putin pissed all over him. Obama is no alpha male and that is dangerous because he might do something stupid in the attempt to appear as one.


21 posted on 06/18/2012 7:18:35 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Ineptocracy; the Obama way.)
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To: Steelfish

Vlad is way above Little Barry’s fighting weight. Vlad probably has a rough time keeping a straight face.


22 posted on 06/18/2012 7:21:28 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Steelfish

Putin got to the top the old fashioned way - muscle.

How did Obumster do it, tell me?

I’ll tell you - his sharp pals Ayers and Dohrn figured out how to game our Constitutional system, and succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.


24 posted on 06/18/2012 7:24:43 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Red6

Oh my that is very gay of you to say that about sweet cheeks.


25 posted on 06/18/2012 7:27:52 PM PDT by ncfool (OMG 2012)
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To: Steelfish

26 posted on 06/18/2012 7:29:20 PM PDT by Iron Munro (John Adams: 'Two ways to enslave a country. One is by the sword, the other is by debt')
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To: onetruelord

Sorry, but when it comes to the Communist (or Marxist) ideology, the true believer is Obama and his circle. There are no true believers left in Russia, and there haven’t been for a good while.


27 posted on 06/18/2012 7:29:20 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Steelfish

the man-boy vs. ex-KGB.
Gee...wonder how THAT’S gonna turn out.


28 posted on 06/18/2012 7:30:20 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Steelfish
Putin may have a point about the political trainwrecks in Egypt and Libya.
29 posted on 06/18/2012 7:30:42 PM PDT by catbertz
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To: Iron Munro

Be looks like pee wee Herman. How gay is that?


31 posted on 06/18/2012 7:46:47 PM PDT by ncfool (OMG 2012)
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To: Steelfish
two bits says Putin controlled the conversation
32 posted on 06/18/2012 7:48:14 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Steelfish

I don’t think former KGB agents have a high respect for Africans, or in our case, a faggot halfican, wimpy ass,
“community organizer” who is way out of his league with a gangster like Putin.

He (Putin) privately wonders how this POS got elected.

I’m wondering too , out loud, for the past three and a half years.


33 posted on 06/18/2012 7:49:12 PM PDT by wetgundog (" Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is no Vice")
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To: elpadre

But look at the pic. That elbow grabbing gesture by Obum is an attempt to assert power over Putty (some body language experts can explain it better, I hope).


34 posted on 06/18/2012 7:51:06 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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35 posted on 06/18/2012 7:54:43 PM PDT by workerbee (We're not scared, Maobama -- we're pissed off!)
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To: workerbee

Vlad was a KGB officer before he went into politics. Barry was a law professor. That’s not really even a fair fight.


36 posted on 06/18/2012 8:01:57 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: RichInOC

Barry was never even a law professor. Just a adjunct faculty speaker, IIRC.

Now, if ol’ Vlad wants to go up against a whoop-ass community organizer, he’s met his match!


37 posted on 06/18/2012 8:11:21 PM PDT by workerbee (We're not scared, Maobama -- we're pissed off!)
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To: RichInOC
...Barry was a law professor...

I believe he was 'guest lecturer' ( and only because some unknown entity pulled strings. It wasn't due to merit), and never a professor.

38 posted on 06/18/2012 8:15:54 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: workerbee; El Cid

Okay, almost faculty. Which makes the comparison even less fair to Barry.


39 posted on 06/18/2012 8:20:36 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: Steelfish
Mr. Putin spent considerable time pointing to what the Russians view as failed examples of political transition in Egypt and Libya as well as their concern that the West does not have a credible plan for what would happen to Syria’s various battling factions and ethnic groups if Mr. Assad stepped down from power.

You mean letting the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Queda take over isn't a good plan?

40 posted on 06/18/2012 8:29:58 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Steelfish
You mean ∅ also didn't tell Putin he would have more flexibility after the election?
41 posted on 06/18/2012 8:42:08 PM PDT by QT3.14 ( USA: Likely only country in world history to adopt policies and laws that ensure self-destruction)
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To: workerbee

That was the pic post of the day. It says it all.


42 posted on 06/18/2012 8:42:24 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Mike Darancette

We sure have come a long way from Reagan. What if he had Obama during the Cold War? The Berlin Wall would have only grown taller and stronger.


43 posted on 06/18/2012 8:44:50 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Red6

Putin has probably killed people while our fearful leader has merely taken credit for ordering people killed.


44 posted on 06/18/2012 8:45:53 PM PDT by Billyv (Freedom isn't Free! Get off the sidelines!)
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To: Steelfish
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45 posted on 06/18/2012 9:06:40 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Steelfish
Putin: "Barry is my little Kenyan biatch!"

Barry: "Yes, daddy..."

46 posted on 06/18/2012 9:07:16 PM PDT by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: Steelfish

Russia's Medvedev hails "comrade" Obama

Associated Foreign Press (AFP) ^ | April 2, 2009 | Anna Smolchenko

"Russia's Dmitry Medvedev hailed Barack Obama as "my new comrade" Thursday after their first face-to-face talks"

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gEo4B1heuBvO6KK7EiBHKigO1UrA

April 1, 2009:
"Obama, Medvedev pledge new era of relations":
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/specialreport/news/419496_88/1/.html

47 posted on 06/18/2012 9:07:21 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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Putin: "Barry is my little Kenyan biatch!"

Barry: "Yes, daddy..."

48 posted on 06/18/2012 9:07:30 PM PDT by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: Steelfish
Open Mic Catches Obama Asking Medvedev for Space on Missile Defense
March 26, 2012

"In a private conversation about the planned U.S.-led NATO missile defense system in Europe, President Barack Obama asked outgoing Russian President Dmitry Medvedev for space on the issue.

This is my last election,” Obama told Medvedev. “After my election I have more flexibility.”

“I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir,” Medvedev said, referring to incoming President Vladimir Putin."

http://fox8.com/2012/03/26/open-mic-catches-obama-asking-medvedev-for-space-on-missile-defense/
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Obama was talking with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev when neither of them realized that their conversation was being picked up by microphones. Here is what they said:

Obama: “On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this, this can be solved, but it’s important for him to give me space.”

Medvedev: “Yeah, I understand. I understand your message about space. Space for you ...”

Obama: “This is my last election. After my election, I have more flexibility.”

Medvedev: “I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir.”

“This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility.” That statement tells us much about the president’s mindset.

The specific mention of missile defense is worrisome enough. Mr. Obama has retreated from the missile defense plan that was negotiated with European allies during the George W. Bush administration. Apparently, he is signaling Moscow that he intends to retreat further. The clear implication from the president’s comments is that he cannot tell the American people before the election what he plans to do after the election.

In addition, there is the phrase “on all these issues,” implying more is at stake than just missile defense.”

Article: Obama plans double cross on missile defense
When it comes to keeping America safe, we shouldn’t be too flexible:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/mar/29/obama-plans-double-cross-on-missile-defense/print/

49 posted on 06/18/2012 9:08:24 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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Putin praises Cold War moles for stealing U.S. nuclear secrets
Reuters ^ | Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:04pm EST | Steve Gutterman

Vladimir Putin praised Cold War-era scientists on Thursday for stealing U.S. nuclear secrets so that United States would not be the world's sole atomic power, in comments reflecting his vision of Russia as a counterweight to U.S. power.

Spies with suitcases full of data helped the Soviet Union build its atomic bomb, he told military commanders.

"You know, when the States already had nuclear weapons and the Soviet Union was only building them, we got a significant amount of information through Soviet foreign intelligence channels," Putin said, according to state-run Itar-Tass.

"The were carrying the information away not on microfilm but literally in suitcases. Suitcases!"

Putin's remarks referred to the dawn of the Cold War more than half a century ago, but they echoed a message he has made loud and clear more recently: that the United States needs to be restrained, and Russia is the country to do it. …

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


50 posted on 06/18/2012 9:09:11 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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