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Marco Rubio Not Being Vetted to Be Mitt Romney’s Running Mate
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Posted on 06/19/2012 4:12:44 AM PDT by Perdogg

Even before the Republicans chose a presidential nominee it was widely assumed that Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., would be at the top of anybody’s list of vice presidential candidates. The reasons are obvious: Not only is he young, charismatic and wildly popular with conservatives, but he could also help Republicans win a key state (Florida) and make inroads with Hispanics.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2012veep; birther; establismentmoonbats; moonbatafterbirthers; moonbatafterbirths; moonbatbirther; naturalborncitizen; nbc; notnbc; rino; rubio; rubio2012
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To: Clintonfatigued

You know more about politics and are probably right, but for Governor Martinez to win in NM- she has superpowers.

It is a beautiful state, has great food, etc. But I have ever witnessed so many Dems/Libs/major moonbats in my life while I lived there.

People who wanted all businesses to turn off their lights at night to keep Las Cruces “dark,” and all natural like.

I know the rural folks and ranchers were more conservative, but the libs of Las Cruces/ABQ are truly scary pro illegal immigrant dems.

She must be amazing as well to combat the voter fraud and still win.

Romney- not my choice, but my vote. Pick somebody good, and please let us be able to wake up November 3rd without the crushing sense of despair an Obama victory will bring.

If anybody here wants to stay home, please report to your nearest military post/base and look in the face of the nearest Soldier, as you will be betraying him and giving aid to his enemy.


51 posted on 06/19/2012 6:04:11 AM PDT by baileybat
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To: Venturer
If the Republicans use Rubio, they are giving Obama’s elegbility a pass, Rubio is ineligible for the same reason Obama is. Not a Natural Born American.


52 posted on 06/19/2012 6:05:28 AM PDT by Ron H.
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To: LS

>> we cannot even consider taking a swing-state conservative Gov (Kasich or Walker). <<

I don’t quite follow your logic with regard to Walker. Seems to me that with him on the ticket, the GOP’s chances of carrying “West Consin” would increase substantially.


53 posted on 06/19/2012 6:07:16 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: All

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2012/06/17/obama-birth-certificate-and-kenya-birth-in-print-in-nc-rhino-times-john-hammer-obama-new-party-affiliation-sheriff-joe-arpaio-investigation/

jbjd | June 17, 2012 at 9:05 pm |
Gianni | June 17, 2012 at 8:41 pm |

Kelly Canon is doing some great work in Texas with regard to gaining access to legal statutes for procedures in getting names on primary and nomination ballots for presidential elections. JBJD’s reporting and interpretation of these statutes, through paperwork filed by Canon, seems to hold some real promise for figuring out why the Texas Democrat Party did not follow the guidelines clearly laid out in state statutes. Keep up the great work, and thanks for letting us know about this JBJD. For more on this, check the link below.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/lonestarteaparty/2012/06/16/deploy-the-troops
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Gianni, you are welcome; but I am not just the reporter. Who do you think is directing Kelly’s efforts from behind the scenes (including writing her correspondence)? However, I am not a citizen of TX and so, unlike others in the ‘eligibility’ arena who invade sovereign states and spearhead various eligibility-related plagues, under their names; as always, I require citizens of the states to ‘rescue’ themselves. I just show them how…

Kelly has been a most apt pupil. She has worked tirelessly to understand the issues. We have spent countless hours dissecting the situation in TX, whose laws perhaps more than any other state lend possibility to resolving the eligibility dilemma. And she has amply compensated me for my time.

Now, we need ‘numbers.’ I have been banned from sites like FreeRepublic, whose Texas readers could most benefit from today’s post. (Kelly said that even when she tries to submit anything with my acronym; she is unable to post.) So, please, post links to today’s article everywhere you can. AG Abbott is more likely to exercise his discretion to pursue this (and upcoming) complaint(s), the more Texas citizens ask him to.


54 posted on 06/19/2012 6:11:38 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: All

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2012/06/17/obama-birth-certificate-and-kenya-birth-in-print-in-nc-rhino-times-john-hammer-obama-new-party-affiliation-sheriff-joe-arpaio-investigation/

kjcanon | June 17, 2012 at 11:25 pm |

Gianni, jbjd is right (literally about everything), but specifically about my role in this effort. I was determined four long frustrating years aog that some how, some way, I was going to find a way to keep ANY ineligible candidate off our ballot here in Texas. She’s been right all along on several aspects of this issue. Namely: THE BALLOT. But she is also right about our laws in the Lone Star State. Follow her blog, as she has not only been guiding our every step, but also chronicling our journey at every pivotal turn. (and there’s been quite a few) Thanks to jbjd’s incredible talent for sniffing out fraud, together we’ve been able to peel ALL of the layers of this onion. I can’t believe we can finally say “we have ‘em”! The Texas Democratic party thought they could get away with side-stepping our laws by conveniently OMITTING constitutional eligibility language in the ONE document they “claim” to have used as their “basis for certifying” their candidates for the Primary election. They must have thought we were all asleep at the wheel, and tried to sneak one past us. Read her article again. Let it soak in. Then read it again! This is going to blow the lid off their little sham sky-high! But really gets me is that they have (for YEARS) been insulting our collective intelligence. That angers me. Never anger a true Texan.

http://jbjd.org/2012/06/17/will-tx-agabbott-prosecute-tdp/

And then listen to the blogtalk show we did just yesterday:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/lonestarteaparty/2012/06/16/deploy-the-troops

Buckle your seat belts… it’s gonna get bumpy!

PS: We need everyone who knows ANYONE in Texas to go to jbjd’s blog and get on board.


55 posted on 06/19/2012 6:26:56 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: Venturer; P-Marlowe

Disagree. By the laws at the time of the nation’s founding, Rubio is a natural-born citizen.

And, if any argument is based on the definition of natural born at that time, then those who argue in such a way must also use the same law put together by those who used that definition.

IOW, if you want the 1787 definition, then you’re also committed to the 1792 naturalization law. What did it require: 2 years residence, appearing before a magistrate (even a frontier magistrate), and an oath (or affirmation) that you’d be loyal to the US.

Rubio’s mom was a citizen before his birth. His father was here much more than 2 years before his birth and appeared before a magistrate a couple of times before his birth, which in 1792 would have been sufficient.


56 posted on 06/19/2012 6:31:03 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Perdogg
Gov Martinez of NM would be the best. And yes, her parents are natural born, in case anyone is wondering.

Ain't going to happen -- she's committed to finishing her first term in office - and getting driver's licenses away from illegals.

57 posted on 06/19/2012 6:36:15 AM PDT by CedarDave
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To: Eye of Unk

Mein Gott! You are right! That’s why we went without a president for almost 4 years after James Garfield died, and why Congress refused to count electoral votes cast for Charles Evans Hughes.

How so many intelligent conservatives have been fooled on this issue is beyond me.

That being said, I think that Romney should pick Sen. Rob Portman of OH as his runningmate. Portman is conservative, experienced, a good campaigner, popular with blue-collar voters, will help motivate Evangelical Protestant voters (he’s a Methodist), and will help in OH, the state that will decide the presidential election.


58 posted on 06/19/2012 6:40:12 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: PA-RIVER

Born an American, with Cuban parents. Read the damn law.


59 posted on 06/19/2012 6:41:49 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: Perdogg

In a recent column, Dick Morris urges Romney to pick Rubio for VP to offset Emperor Obama’s kiddie amnesty panderploy. (I think I just coined a new word!)

While Morris makes an interesting purely POLITICAL point, he conveniently OVERLOOKS the CONSTITUTIONAL question about Rubio’s eligibility.

Though Rubio has waffled on a few issues lately, I respect his general conservatism, which almost certainly flows from his parents having fled the nightmare of Castro’s Marxist island prison.

But therein lies the problem: Rubio’s PARENTS do not meet the necessary requirement of “natural born” for which Obama is today being challenged in a Florida court. In fact, Larry Klayman, attorney for the DEMOCRAT plaintiff in that case, made a glancing reference to the ineligibility of both Rubio and Bobby Jindal in his presentation to Judge Lewis on 6/18.

Look folks, either we HAVE a Constitution or we DO NOT. If Rubio, the son of parents who fled one form of ONE MAN TYRANNY, offers for or is tapped for VP, will he not be furthering the accelerating destruction of the very document the Founders left us to prevent our becoming a nation of men as opposed to a nation of LAWS, the Constitution being the primary exemplar?

And if the Hispanics here – legally and otherwise – help Obama to a second term on the basis that the rule of law and the Constitution are not important, they have only to look to Cuba to see where THAT will lead. They will have helped turn “here” into “there” and will no longer have a “here” to which to flee the tyranny.

Since it’s becoming increasingly clear that most of the morons on Capitol Hill don’t give a damn about any of these “details”, it appears it’s once again – as ALWAYS — up to “we the people.”

In case you haven’t noticed, we’re in the process of CHOOSING SIDES in America.

Which side are YOU on??


60 posted on 06/19/2012 6:50:42 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (NOVEMBER 6th: THE END OF AN ERROR! Let us pray it's not the start of another!*)
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To: Perdogg
ALLEN WEST!!

ALLEN WEST!!

ALLEN WEST!!

61 posted on 06/19/2012 7:19:40 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: yobid

Rumor going around Florida is that he will never be the running mate because he has some infidelity issues. I agree with others that he is too green to be VP.


62 posted on 06/19/2012 7:33:25 AM PDT by No Socialist
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To: Perdogg

“Marco Rubio Not Being Vetted to Be Mitt Romney’s Running Mate”

Gee, we sure didn’t see headlines like this from ABC or the rest of the mainstream media when it was -Obama- who should have been subject to “vetting”....

Having said that, expect more of this - MUCH more - if Rubio is Romney’s chosen running mate.

There are many (including myself) who do not believe he is Constitutionally qualified to be president.

There is much “hay to be made” here, and you can be sure they’ll be a-mowin’ it!


63 posted on 06/19/2012 7:36:22 AM PDT by Road Glide
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To: Perdogg

I wouldn’t put too much credence in this article. First of all, the report that he is not being vetted may be a smoke screen to take attention away from him or distract the Dems digging for dirt. If they have a report that he is not being vetted, why don’t they have reports of who “IS” being vetted? A lot of rumors and false information are going to be floating around on this subject until Romney is ready to announce.


64 posted on 06/19/2012 7:37:38 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Dr. Ursus

“The Hispanic vote is lost.Time to pander to another minority.”

Wisest post on the thread.

But billions upon billions of Republican dollars and conservative efforts will be wasted on trying to do just that.

Some folks never learn....


65 posted on 06/19/2012 7:38:26 AM PDT by Road Glide
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To: servantboy777
George Romney was born in Mexico to American citizen parents. He was never a citizen of Mexico and even ran for President himself. If he was ineligible to be President, so was John McCain in 2008.

The main argument in favor of Rubio seems to be that he would win Hispanic votes, but it isn't clear that he would actually win any non-Cuban Hispanic votes, and the Cubans tend to vote Republican anyway. Romney needs to pick someone with more experience (which is also an argument against Col. West).

66 posted on 06/19/2012 7:41:46 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Hawthorn

Now that I have lived through a “Governor McDonnell” please don’t pick him. He has been a major disappointment.


67 posted on 06/19/2012 7:55:20 AM PDT by republicangel
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To: Will88
There's no more point in pandering to hispanics than there is in pandering to gays, jews or blacks.

FUHGEDABOUTIT

As to McDonnell, my son in law lives in Va and they love him. Good solid conservative.

68 posted on 06/19/2012 7:59:59 AM PDT by evad (STOP SPENDING, STOP SPENDING, STOP SPENDING. It's the SPENDING Stupid)
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To: Venturer
Only the insane claim Romney is not a Natural Born Citizen. His father George was born in Mexico to two U.S. citizen parents. George was never eligible for Mexican citizenship under the laws in place in Mexico at the time.
69 posted on 06/19/2012 8:01:30 AM PDT by newzjunkey (I advocate separation of school and sport)
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To: Perdogg; mickie; flaglady47; Chigirl 26; Eden Scout; seekthetruth; seenenuf; surfer; Bob Ireland; ..
I'm fer Paul Ryan.....best choice economic issues-wise, Middle West geographical-wise, pleasant looks-wise, personal appeal-wise, articulate-wise, inner-energy-wise and wise-wise.

Leni

70 posted on 06/19/2012 8:06:48 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: AuH2ORepublican

If you need a law to define your citizenship you are not natural born.


71 posted on 06/19/2012 8:20:16 AM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: Perdogg
I think that Rubio knows in his heart that he's not a natural born citizen, which is why he's been declining to be considered for the VP spot.

-PJ

72 posted on 06/19/2012 8:24:41 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: evad
As to McDonnell, my son in law lives in Va and they love him. Good solid conservative.

I've gotten that impression, also, but don't live in Virginia so I have limited knowledge of McDonnell. But some here are calling him a RINO without providing their reasons for saying that.

73 posted on 06/19/2012 8:24:56 AM PDT by Will88
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To: LS

Mitt should, truly, become a small conservative Republican RIGHT NOW, or Mitt should quit the ‘12 POTUS race and let a small government conservative take over!-Like that’s, ever, going to happen. This was Sarah Palin’s best chance of becoming POTUS, and she decided not to run, thanks to the MSM/”left, in all of its forms” assiduous attacks upon Sarah. If the ‘12 GOP Convention becomes a “kissyfest for Mitt Romney”, then how does that not end up making things much worse for Mitt Romney, among most conservative voters and among most very conservative voters, for the November general election?


74 posted on 06/19/2012 8:26:53 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: Verginius Rufus

>>He was never a citizen of Mexico and even ran for President himself. If he was ineligible to be President, so was John McCain in 2008.<<

So, isn’t the difference that John McCain was born in Panama on a U.S. government facility. This would be soveriegn U.S. territory.

I just wish the Supreme court would clarify the natural born citizen clause once and for all.


75 posted on 06/19/2012 8:55:50 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: johnthebaptistmoore
All the solidly conservative Republicans either decided not to run, or else couldn't attract enough support in the primaries. Who knows how Sarah would have done--but she didn't run. It's too late to ask the person with a majority of delegates to step aside.

Mitt has actually been saying the right things on abortion, Obamacare, and the economy. It's his past record in Massachusetts that makes conservatives distrust him. The thing to do is to keep the pressure on him so he can't backslide to his earlier positions. Even where he has a bad record, Obama is much worse.

76 posted on 06/19/2012 9:42:04 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Eye of Unk

“What happens if Romney has a stroke or a heart attack?
Rubio won’t be legally capable of taking over the country.”

The requirements for VP are EXACTLY the same as for President. Rubio isn’t Natural Born so he can’t be either VP or President! Probably why he isn’t being “vetted.”


77 posted on 06/19/2012 9:47:37 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Venturer

“To be honest I am not sure about Romney’s being a Natural Born Citizen.
Wasn’t he born in Mexico?

Mitt Romney was born of American Citizen parents in MIchigan. His father, George Romney, was born to American Citizen parents in Mexico. I don’t think that there is any question that Mitt Romney meets the Constitutional requirement to be “natural born.” The RATs are trying to muddy the waters here.


78 posted on 06/19/2012 9:56:43 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: DTogo

YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!!!


79 posted on 06/19/2012 10:07:14 AM PDT by mandaladon (PalinGenesis)
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To: Venturer

It seems so irrational that people would not see like comparisons between Rubio and Obama as to eligibility. Of course if a a person believes the Constitution is irrelevant as to eligibility it really isn’t an important issue.


80 posted on 06/19/2012 10:18:23 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: servantboy777
"I just wish the Supreme court would clarify the natural born citizen clause once and for all."

That will never happen because:
1..They don't know.
2..Even though it's their job to know, it will never get to them as a case.

81 posted on 06/19/2012 10:50:06 AM PDT by evad (STOP SPENDING, STOP SPENDING, STOP SPENDING. It's the SPENDING Stupid)
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To: bluecat6

rubio was born in the USA. (Miami, Florida)

the law states he is eligible.

no court or law has ever recognized the third version of citizen.


82 posted on 06/19/2012 11:41:21 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Verginius Rufus

The entire U.S. isn’t going to get much better, overall, on the majority of issues, as long as the majority of U.S. voters continue to, way too often, vote for leftists, from both major political parties, at each and every political level! Now is the time for a small government conservative to, really, become the next POTUS, but the strongest ones remaining in the ‘12 POTUS field, right now, are Virgil Goode of the Constitution Party and Tom Hoefling of America’s Party.-Both are from minor political parties, and both, probably, have no serious shot of, actually, winning, despite their true conservatism!


83 posted on 06/19/2012 11:42:40 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: newzjunkey

>> Only the insane claim Romney is not a Natural Born Citizen <<

In other words, Alan Keyes doesn’t think Romney is an NBC? Maybe so!


84 posted on 06/19/2012 11:47:59 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: longtermmemmory

>> no court or law has ever recognized the third version of citizen <<

Doesn’t make any difference to the NBC folks. They think Vattel’s definition trumps not only all US statutory law, but also Blackstone, the Common Law, and the 14th Amendment. No sense in arguing with them.


85 posted on 06/19/2012 11:55:55 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: longtermmemmory

I have no clue what you are talking about. Come to think of it I don’t think you have a clue, period.


86 posted on 06/19/2012 11:57:36 AM PDT by Country Eagle
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To: Hawthorn

Of the three the one that comes foremost into play against the Constitution’s reliance on Vattel is the 14th Amendment and even this one does not negate what the Founding Fathers intended by discourse.


87 posted on 06/19/2012 12:24:01 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: bluecat6

No, if you feel the need to look to foreign law, and not to U.S. law, in order to define who is a U.S. citizen at birth, you don’t know what “natural-born citizen” means.


88 posted on 06/19/2012 12:27:18 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: Perdogg
Obama, McCain, Romney1, Romney2, Jindel, Rubio and Santorum.....all ineligible. That's what I've read in various places.

Unless, of course, you subscribe to the alternative view, whereby you simply have to be born in the U.S., or near the U.S., or some U.S.-like facility, to two parents who are some sort of citizens of somewhere, of varying age, and the birth of course is by definition "natural", so you're ok for any office, you're good to go. No problem.

Q.E.D., I think.

89 posted on 06/19/2012 1:11:31 PM PDT by Scooter100 ("Now that the fog has lifted, I still can't find my pipe". --- S. Holmes)
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To: longtermmemmory

It’s not worth taking a regular, reliable conservative vote off the senate floor for those once in a session ties.


90 posted on 06/19/2012 1:59:53 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: Hawthorn

My reasoning is that running mates matter little in the actual election, but a governor would be critical in close votes in swing states (as Jeb Bush was in FL in 2000 and Bob Taft was in OH in 2004). They can prevent a lot of mischief. I think that role is more important than the running-mate role.


91 posted on 06/19/2012 2:01:24 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: PA-RIVER

What are his qualifications to be “secretary if something”?


92 posted on 06/19/2012 2:38:00 PM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: Perdogg

I am over Rubio. I heard him on Medved today discussing the dream act. Gave an example of a girl who moved to florida with her mother from columbia when the girl was 5. Never got documented. Mother left and went back to Columbia. Girl stayed. Graduated Valedictorian went on to Darmouth and got a phd in microbiology. He talked about why deport someone like that?

Well, Rubio, my question is, how did an undocumented illegal alien ever get into our educational system to begin with? How did she get into college? The girl should have gone back to columbia with her mother.

I would trade a few phd’s for 800k illegals being kicked out.


93 posted on 06/19/2012 3:56:42 PM PDT by Diggity
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To: wolfman23601

He can type.


94 posted on 06/19/2012 3:59:24 PM PDT by Diggity
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To: Forty-Niner

I doubt his parents being us citizens would help because George’s parents had taken up permanent residence in Mexico. This is different from US Citizens stationed temporary do to some type of service. Military, corporate etc, or simply on vacation.

The question is when did George get nationalized. If before Mitt was born then OK. If not then he is not NBC.

George was listed in a census as a US Citizen by his father so he was probably never actually naturalized because his father always considered him an American.


95 posted on 06/19/2012 4:08:51 PM PDT by Diggity
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To: Dr. Ursus

“Time to pander to another minority.”

As it turns out, it was reported this morning that for the first time ever, the largest # of immigrants in 2011 were Asians. Hispanics were static.


96 posted on 06/19/2012 4:17:21 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Perdogg

NOT any more. CBS radio news 4 PM said Romney says no truth to this report. RUBIO IS BEING VETTED.


97 posted on 06/19/2012 4:31:14 PM PDT by circumbendibus (Obama is an unconstitutional illegal putative president. Quo Warranto in 2012)
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To: Diggity

“I doubt his parents being us citizens would help because George’s parents had taken up permanent residence in Mexico.”

There is a formal proceedure for giving up your US citizenship and a record of it is kept by the State Department. Could you provide a link to the US law that takes away your citizenship if you live outside of the US for XX# of years without the citizen in question formally and and willfully giving up his(her) citizenship. I know of no such law and would like to know where you got that idea.

Absent giving up his citizenship at the US Consulate, George Romney’s father remained a US citizen and, per US laws, his offspring are born citizens. (Note: Not Natural Born) There was no need for George Romney to naturalize. He was a born US citizen.


98 posted on 06/19/2012 5:54:42 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: LS

>> My reasoning is that running mates matter little in the actual election, but a governor would be critical in close votes in swing states <<

Good point. But I should think that if we’re so lucky to get Walker as the GOP VP nominee, he wouldn’t need to give up his West Consin governorship until after the election. Therefore, he still should be able to restrain the Dhimmi vote fraudsters.

Alternatively, if Gov. Walker should resign pre-election, then presumably the Lt. Gov. — the very attractive Mrs. Kleefisch (sp?) — would be able to hold down the fort.


99 posted on 06/19/2012 6:40:39 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Mitt was on TV today denying the rumor (including during an interview with Sean Hannity). Supposedly only he and one aide know who is on the short list, but he said that Rubio is being vetted.


100 posted on 06/19/2012 8:14:46 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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