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Texas beating death of girl's alleged molester treated as a homicide
Fox News ^ | June 19, 2012 | Edmund DeMarche

Posted on 06/19/2012 11:56:09 AM PDT by Zakeet

The beating death of a Texas man who was allegedly sexually assaulting a 5-year-girl will be treated as a homicide investigation, the Lavaca County Sheriff's Office said in a statement.

The girl’s father, 23, whose name has not been released, says he caught Jesus Mora Flores, 48, trying to molest his daughter on his ranch earlier this month. After hearing the girl scream, the father found her and removed Flores from on top of his child, the statement said. He proceeded to inflict several blows to Flores’ head and neck area, the statement said.

"At this time, I believe the homicide investigation should be sent to the grand jury," Heather McMinn, the Lavaca County District Attorney, said in the statement. She went on to say the sheriff was correct not to arrest the father at the time of the incident, but "all evidence surrounding this homicide will be presented to the grand jury as soon as possible."

Sheriff Micah Harmon, according to the statement, believes the girl’s father is remorseful, and did not intend to kill Flores. He called the case "traumatizing" for the girl and her entire family.

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The grand jury will consider this week if the father will face any charges.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: crime; rape; texas
For the benefit of Libtards everywhere, it should be noted that:

  1. This case has nothing whatsoever to do with handguns.

  2. This case has nothing whatsoever to do with stand your ground.

  3. This case has nothing whatsoever to do with self-defense.

  4. This case has everything to do with stopping a green card pervert from raping a five year old girl.

  5. Texas statutes expressly permit the use of deadly force to: prevent the ... imminent commission of aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery.

  6. This law protects citizens by deterring crime and stopping crime in progress.

  7. This law saves the taxpayers money.

The father will probably not be indicted, and if he is, he will have a strong defense. My guess is that the Grand Jury is being convened to: (a) provide cover for politicians, and (b) attach jeopardy so that the father cannot be later tried for his actions.

1 posted on 06/19/2012 11:56:19 AM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet
Since it has been decided in the press that "jury of your peers" means a jury of the deceased perpetrators peers, we can look forward to a conviction by a jury of illegal pedophiles.
2 posted on 06/19/2012 12:00:32 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Zakeet

At least this is the first dupe thread I’ve seen today. As you know, there are lots of other previous threads on this story in the past 4-5 days.

But you make good points. You should also point out that this is a homocide before other FReepers get in a tizzy over the use of that term.


3 posted on 06/19/2012 12:01:00 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Zakeet

He should get a medal.


4 posted on 06/19/2012 12:01:03 PM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: Zakeet

Even if he gets indited, no jury would convict. Bring it on.


5 posted on 06/19/2012 12:03:38 PM PDT by youngidiot (Hear Hear!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

justifiable homicide.


6 posted on 06/19/2012 12:04:26 PM PDT by steve8714 (Who didn't already know Obama was our first gay President?)
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To: Zakeet

IANAL, but to the best of my understanding, this does NOT necessarily mean they regard the father as a criminal - it just means that they believe that molester’s death was due to human action. (It was.)


7 posted on 06/19/2012 12:05:00 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Zakeet

The grand jury will clear him. You can bet the farm on that (with bushes and dead body removed, of course).


8 posted on 06/19/2012 12:05:28 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Zakeet

We’ve known it was a homicide since day one - that was never at issue. The only question is whether it is justifiable homicide and all the evidence clearly says YES.


9 posted on 06/19/2012 12:06:08 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: Zakeet

“Jesus Mora Flores”

Is this a white hispanic? Or some other kind of hispanic?

Did he have Skittles?

Seriously, lucky for the father the perp was Hispanic, or Jessee Jackson would be calling for him to be hung.


10 posted on 06/19/2012 12:06:46 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca
Seriously, lucky for the father the perp was Hispanic, or Jessee Jackson would be calling for him to be hung.

Sounds like he's already "hung".....Or at least has a big set of cojones!!!
11 posted on 06/19/2012 12:14:06 PM PDT by jrg
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To: youngidiot

“Even if he gets indicted, no jury would convict.”

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You have a LOT more confidence in current American juries than I do.....


12 posted on 06/19/2012 12:20:35 PM PDT by EyeGuy (Armed, judgmental, fiscally responsible heterosexual.)
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To: EyeGuy
You have a LOT more confidence in current American juries than I do.....

Texas juries, don't forget.
13 posted on 06/19/2012 12:25:20 PM PDT by youngidiot (Hear Hear!)
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To: Zakeet
Here in Texas this cause to gather a crowd for an award ceremony!!!
14 posted on 06/19/2012 12:30:14 PM PDT by ontap
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To: Zakeet

If I had been there, I would have given the father my cane to help.


15 posted on 06/19/2012 12:31:32 PM PDT by Ex-Democrat Dean
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To: Zakeet

Of course this was/is a homicide. It is appropriate for the Grand Jury to review the facts of the case. IMHO, after the Grand Jury has reviewed the facts, the father of the victim should receive a public award.


16 posted on 06/19/2012 12:33:16 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: Zakeet

Of course it’s a homicide. The point is that from what we know about it, under Texas law (and any code of morality that allows the use of violence to defend the innocent) it was a justifiable homicide.


17 posted on 06/19/2012 12:49:46 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Zakeet

It’s Texas ... the grand jury will dismiss it.


18 posted on 06/19/2012 12:58:50 PM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Jewbacca

In that part of Texas and with the facts being what they are, the Rev Jackson is more likely to be hung than the father.


19 posted on 06/19/2012 1:02:39 PM PDT by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: Zakeet
Without question, the killing of the child molester in Shiner was a Homicide, just like when a death row inmate is executed, we rule it as a Homicide.
20 posted on 06/19/2012 1:03:04 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: Zakeet
This case has nothing whatsoever to do with self-defense.

Not quite true. Almost all the laws that provide for justifiable homicide for self-defense also allow for it in defense of others. Obviously in particular when the "other" is a child.

So this case is at least a close relative of self-defense. :)

21 posted on 06/19/2012 1:48:44 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Zakeet

Jesus Mora Flores should have been strung up and everyone around the area invited to take a whack at him.


22 posted on 06/19/2012 2:18:12 PM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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To: Leep
Jesus Mora Flores should have been strung up and everyone around the area invited to take a whack at him.

Air drop him two hundred miles out to sea. He's not worth anything more.
23 posted on 06/19/2012 2:26:13 PM PDT by Renderofveils (My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music. - Nabokov)
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To: Zakeet

I’m wondering if a blow to the temporal artery caused the death. If nothing else, I’m curious about that.

But I hope the father isn’t indicted.


25 posted on 06/19/2012 2:47:30 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Don't be afraid to see what you see. -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Zakeet

Jeopardy wouldn’t vest if a grand jury is convened and does not return an indictment. In order for jeopardy to vest, the father of that poor little girl would have to be indicted, and then have the jury acquit him. Or, much easier and less risky, Governor Perry could pardon him and that would be that. (I’m assuming that the father could not be charged with a federal crime, so the governor’s pardon would clear him of all possible charges.)


26 posted on 06/19/2012 3:34:16 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: Zakeet

THe Grand Jury REFUSED TO INDICT father.

Scratch one sheriff. The Prosecutor will probably escape unscratched.

THere are some sane people in Texas and 12 of them sent sexual predators a notice that they are fair game.


27 posted on 06/19/2012 3:39:13 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Zakeet; Arrowhead1952; NYTexan; mylife; Eaker; TheMom; laurenmarlowe; El Gato; RebelTex; ...
Texas father won't face charges in alleged attacker's death

Texas Justice Served Ping!


28 posted on 06/19/2012 4:07:51 PM PDT by LUV W (Never forget...WE have THEM surrounded! ~ Rush Limbaugh)
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To: LUV W

Wonderful news!


29 posted on 06/19/2012 4:10:54 PM PDT by NYTexan
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To: LUV W

He just needed killin’.


30 posted on 06/19/2012 4:11:18 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: NYTexan

Yep...Dad protecting family. The way it should be!


31 posted on 06/19/2012 4:14:06 PM PDT by LUV W (Never forget...WE have THEM surrounded! ~ Rush Limbaugh)
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To: LUV W

Good news. Thanks L. I’d ask for a change of venue to Williamson county if it had gone to trial.


32 posted on 06/19/2012 4:18:04 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (It's time to take out the trash in DC.)
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To: LUV W

Woo hoo! Great news!


33 posted on 06/19/2012 4:27:44 PM PDT by bgill
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To: Delta 21

He did. Now no other children will ba asaulted by him.

Thank you “Dad” for making Texas a safer place to live!


34 posted on 06/19/2012 4:38:48 PM PDT by LUV W (Never forget...WE have THEM surrounded! ~ Rush Limbaugh)
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To: LUV W

+1


35 posted on 06/19/2012 4:54:14 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Actually, it doesn’t quite work that way in Texas. Even a good prosecutor and sheriff may send the most clear-cut self-defense/defense of others cases to a grand jury - for some good and not so good reasons. I’ve talked to some DAs and judges here over the years, and this is what I got from them.

1. Some Texas DAs automatically send every single potential case of justifiable homicide to the grand jury, even the ones that are pro-defense. Why? Because this eliminates any potential accusations of corruption and further puts the responsibility of deciding whether an event was justified on the people of the community instead of some lawyers who may or may not be out for a promotion or elected position. I don’t see a problem with this, really.
2. Other Texas DAs will send cut-and-dried cases to the grand jury for an equally good reason - to protect the actor from civil suits. While Texas law makes it all but impossible to not have such a suit tossed out by the judge (if he follows the rules), it is still possible for a suit to be filed (in fact, multiple suits) and a corrupt or activist judge could let it stand and proceed. Even if it is tossed out, it is possible for the other party to file suit after suit to financially destroy the actor (who would have to pay an attorney to defend him each time.) However, if a Grand Jury returns a no-bill, there isn’t an attorney in the state that would touch a wrongful death suit related to it. Don’t really have a problem with this either.
3. Some DAs run all these cases past the Grand Jury for a different and less-savory reason - to get their ‘activity’ numbers up and to show they’re ‘doing something’ to get re-elected.


36 posted on 06/19/2012 8:03:03 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: LUV W

AWESOME NEWS!


37 posted on 06/19/2012 9:15:10 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Zakeet

This just reported minutes ago on Fox News: The father of the victim WILL NOT BE CHARGED WITH A CRIME!!


38 posted on 06/20/2012 10:31:47 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: Zakeet

EXCELLENT!


39 posted on 06/21/2012 6:31:19 AM PDT by wolfcreek (A closed eye mentality is the reason for our current reality)
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