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Rubio: 'It Feels Weird to Deport a Valedictorian' (RINO Barf Alert!)
CNS News ^ | 6/19/2012 | Susan Jones

Posted on 06/19/2012 1:10:47 PM PDT by IbJensen

(CNSNews.com) - Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) says the United States has "a significant illegal immigration problem" and needs to find a "balanced" solution:

"I mean, if you do something that somehow encourages illegal immigration in the future, it's counterproductive. On the other hand, it feels weird to deport a valedictorian who has been here since they were four years old and have done well in school. So, trying to find the balance there, that is important," Rubio told Sean Hannity Monday night. "What the President did by ignoring the Constitution, ignoring the Congress, makes it harder to find that balance, not to mention that it's offensive to the constitutional principles of our republic."

Rubio noted that a million people come into the U.S. through proper legal channels every year. "No other country even comes close to that figure," he said. "But if you even suggest that you have an illegal immigration problem and we need to do something about it, if you're a Republican, oftentimes the left will label you as anti-immigrant. And, you know, this is a slam-dunk issue that is easy -- it's just not true.

"You know, on the one hand, we do have a significant illegal immigration problem. It has to be confronted. It has to be solved. We cannot be the only country in the world that does not enforce its immigration laws. On the other hand, we have some very compelling human stories like the cases of these young people who have been here their whole life, who've grown up here, brought here at a young age, through no fault of their own, and it touches your heart to hear these stories. And trying to find a reasonable balance that honors both our legacy as a nation of immigrants and also with the legacy as a nation of laws is not easy."

In March, citing "prosecutorial discretion," federal immigration officials told a North Miami Senior High School valedictorian they were deferring deportation proceedings against her. Daniela Pelaez's case made national headlines after several thousand students, teachers and community members gathered in the streets of North Miami to protest her imminent deportation.

Rubio told Hannity that President Obama, in directing his administration to enforce part of a bill (the DREAM Act) that Congress did not pass, is applying a short-term fix to a "very significant issue that needs to be solved in a long-term way."

Rubio said one of the things that's not being discussed enough is "that the economy and the economic downturn under Barack Obama has especially hurt Americans of Hispanic descent." He noted that unemployment is higher among Hispanics than it is among other groups, and polls show "there's not as much intensity for the president as there was in the past."

He said President Obama, every week, comes out with another issue -- "to try to divide Americans against each other for the purpose of getting him reelected."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: amnesty; dreamact; gope; illegalaliens; immigration; rubianothermistake; rubio; rubiotherino
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I say send the illegals back to where they came from.We don't want their kids ,they can take them with them.I don't care how long that they have been here.They can just be glad that they lived here as long as they did.Illegal is illegal! We have LAWS and they need to be enforced!

Rubio the RINO should review Mexico's immigration laws! Even he couldn't get in there. Too damned bad his parents chose America to nest in.

1 posted on 06/19/2012 1:10:54 PM PDT by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen

We are told how they ONLY come here to work the jobs that no one else wants. Then we hear how they are so smart and need to be permitted in-state tuition to public universities.

Sounds like they are targeted degreed professions more than just working mop buckets and lawnmowers.

So which is it, they are smart contributors to American corporations or they are lowly paid unskilled manual labor workers who are only taking jobs no one wants?

Liberals lie. Always.


2 posted on 06/19/2012 1:13:32 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The media ignored the 40th anniversary of Bill Ayers' Pentagon bombing but not Watergate. Ask Why.)
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To: IbJensen
feels pretty OK to know that 10+ percent of real American citizens are unable to find a job, though?
3 posted on 06/19/2012 1:16:28 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (they have no god but caesar)
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To: IbJensen

I had the pleasure of attending a high school graduation last month. “Valedictorians” don’t impress me much anymore. The key point of his speech was to have fun in Las Vegas after graduation. What?


4 posted on 06/19/2012 1:16:59 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Free Stuff or Freedom! You Decide 2012.)
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To: IbJensen

Well said. This punk kid Rubio is a fraud and a phony and why anyone supports him is just nuts.


5 posted on 06/19/2012 1:17:59 PM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired high up in the mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a GREAT life!)
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To: IbJensen

Principles of common sense and Common Law dictate that a child should not benefit from the illegal activities of their parents. Were it not so, why not let the bank robber’s kids keep the cash???


6 posted on 06/19/2012 1:20:23 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over...)
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To: IbJensen

Who gives a damn? Hell, if you were to aks someone in Obama’s White House, they’d prolly tell you “Yeah...Barack was Valedictorian, Salutatorian and Rastaforian at Yale, Harvard, Columbia University, and that college in CA that nobody can remember.”

The point is WE DO NOT NEED THESE PEOPLE, period! We didn’t ask for them - we only have/had to pay for them with our school taxes; our federal, state and city taxes; put up with them choking our hospitals and schools with the added benefit of having to have spanish language spoken to them because they won’t assimilate, and on and on and on and on.

They bring criminality, competition for low-skill jobs for real Americans, disease (a bunch of them), crowded schools, diminishment of neighborhoods, drunk driving, theft of identities causing untold billions in havoc on American Citizen lives.....everywhere you go you see these criminals.

Laws don’t say anything about feelings; they are absolute as to the facts. If we pervert these laws, we pervert the validity of all of them.

Send them the hell home.


7 posted on 06/19/2012 1:22:07 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: IbJensen

If we take their kids (many times more than the 800K estimate), they will eventually reach a legal point where they can sponsor their illegal parents, brothers and sisters (chain migration). Within not too many years, 800K turns into many millions.


8 posted on 06/19/2012 1:22:38 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: IbJensen
"On the other hand, we have some very compelling human stories like..."

...the family members and loved ones of those killed, raped or otherwise criminally victimized by illegals.

...the throngs of unemployed citizens who can't find a job hanging drywall, cleaning hotels or picking fruits and vegetables because of the glut of cheap illegal labor.

...the unfortunate Asian or African who has dreamt of seeking a better life in America and has saved their money, and spent hours and days on end in line at US embassies so they could immigrate legally, who have been denied or pushed to the back of the line because others were able to sneak across the border in the dead of night.

Yep. No shortage of compelling human stories to go around.

9 posted on 06/19/2012 1:22:57 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: IbJensen

Yeah sure, whatever. People like Rubio talk like most illegal aliens are the cream of the crop. They even talk about illegal aliens who have served in the U.S. military. ILLGAGL ALIENS CANNOT ENLIST TN THE MILITARY! How many illegal aliens have served in the military? I wish somebody with a big microphone would yell out “B.S.!” evertime this bull crap is repeated.


10 posted on 06/19/2012 1:23:32 PM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: IbJensen

FIRST LAW OF HOLES:

When You Are In One, Stop Digging


11 posted on 06/19/2012 1:24:30 PM PDT by Iron Munro (John Adams: 'Two ways to enslave a country. One is by the sword, the other is by debt')
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To: umgud

Anyone that believes that there are just 800,000 of these poor little abused children has a frigging screw loose. Just like the ones that believe there are only 12 million illegals here. It is 5 or 10 times that.


12 posted on 06/19/2012 1:24:45 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: IbJensen

First it was health care. Why these moms shouldn’t be refused pre-natal care.

Then it was, why these moms shouldn’t be refused service when they’re delivering.

Then it was said that we shouldn’t refuse the children health care in their infant years.

Why aide to dependent children, food stamps, Section 8, and other perks were needed to treat them humanely.

Then it was said that we shouldn’t deny them an education.

Then it was said that we shouldn’t deport them after high school.

Now it’s, we shouldn’t ever deport them.

The U. S. Citizen is the most long-suffering citizen (as it relates to being abused by foreign nationals) on the planet.


13 posted on 06/19/2012 1:25:45 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: a fool in paradise

Where I live we do not have a shortage of illegals. Sure there are a few valedictorians but the majority of them drop out of school and become bangers. We have whole areas of town that are a war zone thanks to all those valedictorians.


14 posted on 06/19/2012 1:27:09 PM PDT by sheana
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To: IbJensen

Our loss is Mexico’s gain? Maybe if we send enough back they will help jump start its economy.


15 posted on 06/19/2012 1:27:59 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: sheana

Hard cases make bad law. The exception proves the rule. About a quarter are full assimilated, about a quarter are misfits. Of course they will be in Mexico, too.


16 posted on 06/19/2012 1:31:03 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: IbJensen

Rubio’s true colors are now showing. Disappointing. He’s gone off the deep end...hand in hand with Jeb Bush.


17 posted on 06/19/2012 1:32:46 PM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: IbJensen

The more Rubio flaps his gums, the less I like him.


18 posted on 06/19/2012 1:38:26 PM PDT by exit82
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To: DoughtyOne

These complaints you list are a direct cause of a failed, so-called democracy.

The itinerate nit-wits we elect to Congress and to occupy the White Hut are only looking to preen their own feathers. They can’t succeed in a job outside the goobermint so they prance about in one of the two houses of our pathetic, sick government knowing full well that the C-Span cameras are locked on them.

If this pathetic, phony straw-man isn’t reelected in November we can look forward to the visible assets of the nation being set aflame while the police authorities stand idly by.


19 posted on 06/19/2012 1:39:16 PM PDT by IbJensen (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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To: IbJensen

Thank you, Marco RINO, now shut up and go away.


20 posted on 06/19/2012 1:42:00 PM PDT by bgill
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To: Gaffer

How refreshing it is when we know we’re reading something who thinks exactly as we do!


21 posted on 06/19/2012 1:42:05 PM PDT by IbJensen (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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To: IbJensen

Rubio is an idiot and needs to STFU.


22 posted on 06/19/2012 1:43:26 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Romney - not Obama - not a Conservative - not a real Christian)
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To: IbJensen

Perhaps the valedictorian could reimburse the tax payers for his excellent education.


23 posted on 06/19/2012 1:43:38 PM PDT by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: IbJensen

I hear ya. Hopefully you’re wrong. I’m not putting money on it.


24 posted on 06/19/2012 1:43:54 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: Jane Long

Ok..amnesty for all valedictorians. But let’s deport the other 799,990 of them.
The worst case is the guy here in CA who wants to be admitted by the BAR to practice law. Since he is illegal..he either is driving without a license or he committed fraud to get one.
They just ignore all the other laws that illegals break and get away with it.


25 posted on 06/19/2012 1:44:19 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Jane Long

Ok..amnesty for all valedictorians. But let’s deport the other 799,990 of them.
The worst case is the guy here in CA who wants to be admitted by the BAR to practice law. Since he is illegal..he either is driving without a license or he committed fraud to get one.
They just ignore all the other laws that illegals break and get away with it.


26 posted on 06/19/2012 1:44:36 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: IbJensen
I sure wouldn't feel strange at all about deporting an illegal alien who'd unfairly taken the Valendictorian honors from the correct recipient.

Rubio's values are typical street thug when you get down to it ~ no concern at all for the victims.

Say, did this guy get treatment for sociopathy as a child?

27 posted on 06/19/2012 1:45:28 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Principles of common sense and Common Law dictate that a child should not benefit from the illegal activities of their parents. Were it not so, why not let the bank robber’s kids keep the cash???

That comes up against this long standing Natural Law foundation expressed by Hadley Arkes here:

http://www.claremont.org/publications/crb/id.1875/article_detail.asp

Consider for example that proposition the Scottish philosopher Thomas Reid regarded as one of the truly "first principles" we draw from the logic of moral judgment itself, a principle I've restated in this way: that we do not hold people blameworthy or responsible for acts they were powerless to affect. That principle may cover a wide variety of things where people really had no causal powers over their condition or their acts and should not be held culpable. We may argue in different cases as to how powerless or incapable people actually were, but no one doubts the validity of the principle—

The question is: are you depriving the child of the ill-gotten gains of the bank robber, or are you punishing the child for the robbery?

28 posted on 06/19/2012 1:47:44 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: IbJensen

If we had guarded the boarders and enforced immigration law, these children or teenagers or young men and women would not be facing this problem.

Every amnesty is only an incentive to more illegal immigration, more emotional decision making and more amnesty.

Ronald Reagan, I’m looking at you. This was probably the biggest mistake of his presidencey. a


29 posted on 06/19/2012 1:55:32 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: bgill
Having been born and raised in Texas this has been a problem for a long time. In my hometown in South Texas the Mexicans have always been here and I am 68 yrs old. Some came and picked cotton and went home but most stayed. They were our classmates and neighbors but there weren't as many of them. Nothing was ever done because we needed them to work. Now we have generations of families and many of them were born here. I blame every President and Congress for never doing a thing. President Reagan gave amnesty but never followed up and neither did any other leader. Here on the border kids walk across the bridge everyday with their back packs and the schools have to take them and might as well get all the money they can from the government because they have no choice. I think we have a huge mess now and I doubt if there is an answer because it's too late. Texas already has the Dream Act and it's not going to change.
30 posted on 06/19/2012 1:57:57 PM PDT by NativeTxn
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To: IbJensen

Well, Marco, if it “feels weird”, you’d better write a proposal for a case by case assessment, and forget the blanket propositions!

As for all of the simple minded “ship ‘em all back” cabal, they need to practice a little real world analysis, and figure out what might actually work.

Start by closing the border!


31 posted on 06/19/2012 1:58:25 PM PDT by G Larry
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To: heartwood

I totally agree with you!!


32 posted on 06/19/2012 2:00:01 PM PDT by NativeTxn
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To: IbJensen

has it dawned on him that our teachers unions get to decide who the valedictorian is, and that potentially they could declare ALL illegals to be valedectorians?


33 posted on 06/19/2012 2:01:06 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: IbJensen
Here Marco...practice bowing...
34 posted on 06/19/2012 2:03:27 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: IbJensen
'It Feels Weird to Deport a Valedictorian'

Tell you what, after we deport 20 million illegals, we can discuss allowing a few valedictorians back in.

35 posted on 06/19/2012 2:10:05 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: IbJensen
It's that silly concept of "equality before the law". The law is no respecter of persons. The valedictorian in a tuxedo and the surf bum in flip flops are equally liable for an illegal parking ticket when parking in a red zone. The crime of being illegally present in the country is far beyond a parking ticket. The valedictorian enjoyed a free vacation on the U.S. taxpayers. The party is over. You've been detected. It's time to deal with the illegal alien.
36 posted on 06/19/2012 2:11:15 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: bobby.223

This punk kid Rubio is a fraud and a phony and why anyone supports him is just nuts.

He’s just the next great thing to be used to further the cause of the GOP elites. Conservatives and as a result don’t stand a chance until we deal with these people.


37 posted on 06/19/2012 2:11:56 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: IbJensen

Rubio is on a Romney fishing expedition for advancing what they and the GOPE want to achieve, in exchange for Hispanic votes.

This is the Rick Perry agenda.

Full disclosure here is that I get it, and like it, but yes, Romney is without a core, so he has no choice but to borrow from others, (there is no there, there). Romney will steer by polls alone because he must. He has nothing else in him.


38 posted on 06/19/2012 2:22:38 PM PDT by RitaOK (NO ROMNEY, NO COMPROMISE. NO WAY. NO HOW. NOT NOW. NOT EVER.)
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To: IbJensen

Sounds like Rubio is turning into a PANDER Bare...


39 posted on 06/19/2012 2:24:18 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: IbJensen

Career suicide.


40 posted on 06/19/2012 2:25:43 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: IbJensen

Career suicide.


41 posted on 06/19/2012 2:29:47 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: IbJensen

“In March, citing “prosecutorial discretion,” federal immigration officials told a North Miami Senior High School valedictorian they were deferring deportation proceedings against her. Daniela Pelaez’s case made national headlines after several thousand students, teachers and community members gathered in the streets of North Miami to protest her imminent deportation.”

If we have a few million US citizens gather in the streets and demand that our immigration laws be enforced would you care Mr Rubio? Does it feel weird, Mr Rubio, that thousands of Americans have been murdered, raped, robbed and assaulted by illegal aliens?
Howzabout the billions of taxpayer dollars stolen from the pockets of citizens by the illegal parasites?
If the Repubs lose the presidency, the house and fail to gain the Senate they will rightfully take their place in the dust bin of history.


42 posted on 06/19/2012 2:37:05 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: IbJensen

Okay Marco - the illegal alien Valedictorians can stay.

All 14 of them.

The other 30 million criminal trespassers have to go.

That right there would be a big step towards balancing government budgets from the feds right down to the small towns.

It will also save a lot of hospitals from closing and eliminate the need for new school taxes for about 20 years.

Plus it will open up enough jobs to cut the unemployment rate in half and cut welfare and food stamps costs by huge amounts.


43 posted on 06/19/2012 2:42:13 PM PDT by Iron Munro (John Adams: 'Two ways to enslave a country. One is by the sword, the other is by debt')
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To: RobbyS
Our loss is Mexico’s gain? Maybe if we send enough back they will help jump start its economy.

I'm thinking that's why the Govt. of Mexico cheers on the Democrats and RINOS when they start talking amnesty. If those folks who came from Mexico illegally go back home, they'd likely cause trouble for the ruling class.

44 posted on 06/19/2012 2:45:21 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: IbJensen
Mr. Rubio, if that so-called valedictorian desires not to be deported, then he/she should grab their family and return home.

Valedictorian or no, he/she's not entitled to my son's job or spot in Med School just because he/she is here (illegally!)

So, my son's NOT a valedictorian, so what, are we any less Americans and any less entitled to an education or job just because some kid of an illegal is here and you and Obama say he can have the job? my son needs?

45 posted on 06/19/2012 2:46:28 PM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: RinaseaofDs


46 posted on 06/19/2012 2:55:39 PM PDT by Iron Munro (John Adams: 'Two ways to enslave a country. One is by the sword, the other is by debt')
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To: IbJensen

Well Boo Hoo Hoo Rubio. It’s not our fault the countries they come from illegally are basket cases.

What’s next Rubio? Shipping over hundreds of millions of Chinese and Indians because, they too, just want a better life for their non-aborted children?


47 posted on 06/19/2012 3:10:48 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are just useless and useful idiots.)
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To: IbJensen

It’s a Mexican brain drain. Mexico needs this illegal valedictorian much more than we do. Send her home where she can help her people directly.


48 posted on 06/19/2012 3:22:29 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: IbJensen
"It feels weird" Here ya go Rubio, you weirdo.
49 posted on 06/19/2012 3:54:04 PM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Principles of common sense and Common Law dictate that a child should not benefit from the illegal activities of their parents. Were it not so, why not let the bank robber’s kids keep the cash???

The Supreme Court interprets the 14th Amendment as suspending Common Law for corporate individuals.

The Supreme Court also allows anyone to be presumed to be a corporate individual without the government having to prove it first.

The Supreme Court also allows the government to enact these interpretations without admitting they are doing so.

The Supreme Court also allows the government to put people into jeopardy unless they agree that they are corporate individuals.

The Supreme Court considers these rulings to be common sense.

50 posted on 06/19/2012 4:16:23 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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