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MEETING OVER: Contempt still lives, DOJ didn't produce documents #fastandfurious
Twitter ^ | 06/19/12 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 06/19/2012 2:58:11 PM PDT by PhilosopherStone1000

KatiePavlich Katie Pavlich Jun 19, 05:46 PM MEETING OVER: Contempt still lives, DOJ didn't produce documents #fastandfurious

Latest news on Issa's meeting with Holder which apparently has just finished FWIW.


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1 posted on 06/19/2012 2:58:20 PM PDT by PhilosopherStone1000
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

promise, . . delay, . . promise, . . . delay a little more . . .


2 posted on 06/19/2012 3:00:40 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

He’s stonewalling to make it through November and he knows Romney doesn’t have the balls to investigate once/if he wins.


3 posted on 06/19/2012 3:00:40 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

Go for the contempt vote Darryl! You’ve been more than reasonable and you have the backing of the people.


4 posted on 06/19/2012 3:01:15 PM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

What a surprise. Pfft...


5 posted on 06/19/2012 3:01:38 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

rut roh...here comes the strongly worded letter.


6 posted on 06/19/2012 3:04:21 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000
DOJ didn't produce documents #fastandfurious

These people in Congress work for us and they had better start earning their wages.

WE demand those documents or the pulling of the plug on our head attorney!

Washington is turning into a joke since 0bama and we the people need to get our government back!

7 posted on 06/19/2012 3:05:54 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

1. Treasury Secretary is a tax-evader

2. Atty General exports machine-guns to drug-dealers

3. POTUS is a bisexual muslim from Kenya who consorted with terrorists

Very complete picture.


8 posted on 06/19/2012 3:06:07 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

Holder seems to have gotten himself into a little problem. Turn over documents show he lied, don’t turn them over and he could be held in contempt (if Republican have any guts left).


9 posted on 06/19/2012 3:07:43 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: aimhigh

Obama and Holder use the same tactics as the Iranians............


10 posted on 06/19/2012 3:07:48 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000
I remember the TIME magazine cover accusing the Nixon administration of stonewalling during Watergate.

I bet TIME doesn't do it this time......

11 posted on 06/19/2012 3:08:40 PM PDT by jeffc (Prayer. It's freedom of speech.)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

The spineless GOP will not act.


12 posted on 06/19/2012 3:09:19 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Romney - not Obama - not a Conservative - not a real Christian)
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To: TurboZamboni
rut roh...here comes the strongly worded letter.

Can the public in general handle the trauma of such a letter?

Perhaps the reaction should be toned down a bit for humanity's sake.

13 posted on 06/19/2012 3:09:29 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000
this is all just kabuki theater

what happens if they actually have the stones to hold Holder in contemp of congress? ..... NOTHING

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14 posted on 06/19/2012 3:10:48 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

Holder only agreed to meet with Issa to say he’s going to need another five months to get the documents together.


15 posted on 06/19/2012 3:10:52 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: aimhigh

UPDATE from ISSA:

Darrell Issa @DarrellIssa

I hope #Holder’s @thejusticedept will reconsider, but I’m not optimistic. #contempt vote is on for tomorrow. #fastandfurious
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Darrell Issa @DarrellIssa

Wish I could report #Holder delivered the docs we need to get to the truth in #fastandfurious. He didn’t
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Darrell Issa @DarrellIssa

After our meeting, we’re on for a #Holder #contempt vote tomorrow. Didn’t have to come to this

http://twitter.com/#DarrellIssa


16 posted on 06/19/2012 3:11:46 PM PDT by PhilosopherStone1000
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To: Erik Latranyi

Get ready for the talking points on talk shows tonight...

Republicans are evil demanding Holder turn over documents.

Republcians can’t tolerate a black man in office.

Republicans are playing politics.

Blah, blah, blah....


17 posted on 06/19/2012 3:12:23 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Erik Latranyi
Which brings me back to the original unanswered/unasked question.

Sunni or Shiaa? Which head of the beast does he bow to?

18 posted on 06/19/2012 3:12:23 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

Excellent news. Issa must have somehow persuaded the spineless Speaker of The House to simmer down.


19 posted on 06/19/2012 3:14:55 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

“While the law pronounces the duty of the U.S. Attorney is to impanel a grand jury for its action on the matter, some proponents of the unitary executive theory believe that the Congress cannot properly compel the U.S. Attorney to take this action against the Executive Branch, asserting that the U.S. Attorney is a member of the Executive Branch who ultimately reports only to the President and that compelling the Attorney amounts to compelling the President himself. They believe that to allow Congress to force the President to take action against a subordinate following his directives would be a violation of the separation of powers and infringe on the power of the Executive branch. The legal basis for this belief, they contend, can be found in Federalist 49, in which James Madison wrote ““The several departments being perfectly co-ordinate by the terms of their common commission, none of them, it is evident, can pretend to an exclusive or superior right of settling the boundaries between their respective powers.” This approach to government is commonly known as “departmentalism” or “coordinate construction”” Wikipedia


20 posted on 06/19/2012 3:15:26 PM PDT by MrKatykelly
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

Holder NEVER intended to turn over the documents! He knows he doesn’t have to do a damn thing he doesn’t want to do. He flaunted the law during Clinton what has changed? Obama is even more corrupt than Clintons (& I thought I would never say that!).


21 posted on 06/19/2012 3:15:56 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: EGPWS
Washington is turning into a joke since 0bama

More of a joke, at least.

22 posted on 06/19/2012 3:17:18 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: PhilosopherStone1000
The Speaker's response:


23 posted on 06/19/2012 3:17:46 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: kcvl

Word is on The Hill that Holder is guilty, the GOP has the goods on him in the docs, and that Issa isn’t bluffing - nor is Boehner or Cantor.

Holder was mighty nervous in his statement in Statuary Hall moments ago.


24 posted on 06/19/2012 3:19:44 PM PDT by mwl8787
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

What did the President know and when did he know it?


25 posted on 06/19/2012 3:20:05 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: kcvl

I was under the impression that Congress already has the documents (emails) they’re requesting from Holder. They were provided by the whistleblower — but they can’t use them because of the way the whistleblower obtained them. Congress has to get stuff “by the book”. Not sure if this is true, or where/when I heard this — but FWIW...


26 posted on 06/19/2012 3:20:36 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

Hey, didn’t I see a story that Issa gave Holder an ultimatum in Breaking News yesterday? ...I see Issa wimped out again.


27 posted on 06/19/2012 3:20:43 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: PhilosopherStone1000
Darrell Issa: "After our meeting, we're on for a ‪#Holder‬ ‪#contempt‬ vote tomorrow. Didn't have to come to this."
28 posted on 06/19/2012 3:21:15 PM PDT by Dysart
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

Did Eric Holder come to say that he wanted to negotiate??? Did he tell Issa he was only following orders??? Grab the popcorn folks, this is going to get good!!!


29 posted on 06/19/2012 3:21:15 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

Note the current photo on the front page of twitter:

http://twitter.com/

A mosque


30 posted on 06/19/2012 3:21:52 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: MayflowerMadam

They can use the documents anyway they want. There is enough info in them plus testimony to send Holder up the river.


31 posted on 06/19/2012 3:22:59 PM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: MayflowerMadam

They can use the documents anyway they want. There is enough info in them plus testimony to send Holder up the river.


32 posted on 06/19/2012 3:23:06 PM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: Dysart
Darrell Issa: "After our meeting, we're on for a ‪#Holder‬ ‪#contempt‬ vote tomorrow. Didn't have to come to this."

So Issa is going to give it to that scofflaw Holder. Well good.

33 posted on 06/19/2012 3:23:41 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: MayflowerMadam
Holder. They were provided by the whistleblower — but they can’t use them because of the way the whistleblower obtained them. Congress has to get stuff “by the book”.

Oh yeah, I'm a sure as I can be that the Democrats would hold off using whistleblower e-mails because they're not "by the book" if the shoe was on the other foot. Why, I can just imagine Nancy Pelosi admonishing Henry Waxman for even thinking about using leaked e-mails against a Republican President, especially if those e-mails were direct confirmation that the Attorney General had lied to congressional investigators.

34 posted on 06/19/2012 3:25:06 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Red Steel

I think that the end of day Tuesday is what has been discussed ever since last week. It started by saying that Contempt Vote would be scheduled for the First of this Week and Friday Holder said he would meet and comply so they wouldn’t have to hold a vote — he was given to end of day today and they have now stuck to it.

If Issa makes the contempt motion in committee tomorrow, he has held to what he said a week ago.


35 posted on 06/19/2012 3:26:56 PM PDT by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years.)
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To: Red Steel

Stop this pussy footing around by the Republicans and bring this to a head now. How many months do the Republicans need to get their balls.


36 posted on 06/19/2012 3:27:09 PM PDT by YukonGreen
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To: aimhigh

For every hour that (With)Holder gets a further delay, how many more shredded documents is that?


37 posted on 06/19/2012 3:28:38 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: All

what happens to him if he’s held in contempt?


38 posted on 06/19/2012 3:29:07 PM PDT by newnhdad (Where will you be during the Election Riots of 2012/2013?)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

Looks like the country might be taking a slight turn back to the rule of law. Was kinda looking forward to ignoring all of DC’s laws. What’s good for the Goose is good for the Gandor. Looks like this Goose might be getting cooked, though.


39 posted on 06/19/2012 3:31:36 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: newnhdad
what happens to him if he’s held in contempt?

The MSM outlets all create polls to show this is a terrible development for Republicans.

40 posted on 06/19/2012 3:31:41 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: Bratch

And I used to think Denny Hastert was a disappointment. Sheesh!


41 posted on 06/19/2012 3:31:51 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: newnhdad

Year and a half later - not one person fired, demoted, etc.

FUBO!!!

FUEH!!!!


42 posted on 06/19/2012 3:31:58 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000
Can we believe this 50th threat to hold contempt vote....or will we simply live through the 51st, 52nd, 53rd,......If you step across this line in the sand.....I will....well, I'll,....you know...I'll draw another line in the sand. There, take that. And......while we are at it....no hitting on my right shoulder,..I have bursitis.....lets get all of these rules agreed to....

It reminds me of Cliff Claven on Cheers when he and the psychiatrist were going to fight....but FIRST,....they spent 6 hours exhausting themselves on declaring the rules. Grown men either mean what they say or they are not respected. In this case Holder runs to the microphone and camera and begins to defecate on Issa. There can be no reasonable explaination for republicans to set themselves up as feckless, nutless dupes.

Mr. Issa say what you mean or shut up. You only make youself a characature of vapidity.

43 posted on 06/19/2012 3:38:04 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (Ia)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Just why aren’t these people who supplied guns to the mexi-narcos in jail for abetting the killing of our border agents and for the killing of 30,000 mexicans? I have never seen such a combination of lawlessness (nobama & his anti-Am,erican minions) and feckless wimpishness (congress).
Oy vey!


44 posted on 06/19/2012 3:38:38 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Just why aren’t these people who supplied guns to the mexi-narcos in jail for abetting the killing of our border agents and for the killing of 30,000 mexicans? I have never seen such a combination of lawlessness (nobama & his anti-American minions) and feckless wimpishness (congress).
Oy vey!


45 posted on 06/19/2012 3:38:51 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: newnhdad
what happens to him if he’s held in contempt?

You're kidding, right?

46 posted on 06/19/2012 3:41:09 PM PDT by LaybackLenny
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

47 posted on 06/19/2012 3:41:33 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The media ignored the 40th anniversary of Bill Ayers' Pentagon bombing but not Watergate. Ask Why.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Exactly right...


48 posted on 06/19/2012 3:41:59 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: newnhdad

Following a contempt citation, the person cited is arrested by the Sergeant-at-Arms for the House or Senate, brought to the floor of the chamber, held to answer charges by the presiding officer, and then subjected to punishment as the chamber may dictate (usually imprisonment for punishment reasons, imprisonment for coercive effect, or release from the contempt citation).

Imprisonment is usually for days like 10 or so.


49 posted on 06/19/2012 3:42:09 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red Steel
I see Issa wimped out again.

What did you expect Issa to do, make a citizens's arrest or just shoot him on the spot?

50 posted on 06/19/2012 3:43:51 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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