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BREAKING: After Issa and Holder Meet, Still No Documents, Contempt Charges Still Looming
Townhall.com ^ | June 19, 2012 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 06/19/2012 3:36:32 PM PDT by Kaslin

The meeting between Attorney General Eric Holder and Chairman of the House Oversight Committee Darrell Issa has ended after 20 minutes of discussion. Holder came with an offer of a briefing on Fast and Furious documents, but did not physically turn over any documents. This is unsatisfactory to Issa who has said repeatedly that in order for Holder to avoid a contempt vote Wednesday at 10 AM, he must hand over 1300 Fast and Furious documents to the committee.

"The documents they may choose to give in the future, we need before tomorrow," Issa said to reporters. "“Ultimately the documents needed for postponement seem to be in their possession.”

Holder's failure to produce documents at the 5 PM meeting come after he failed to present them by this morning as requested, after he failed to respond to an October 2011 subpoena as requested and after more than a year of requests for transparency surrounding his role in Operation Fast and Furious.

Issa said there is a chance Holder would submit the requested documents tonight but that a contempt vote is still scheduled for Wednesday and has released an official statement.

“I had hoped that after this evening’s meeting I would be able to tell you that the Department had delivered documents that would justify the postponement of tomorrow’s vote on contempt. The Department told the Committee on Thursday that it had documents it could produce that would answer our questions. Today, the Attorney General informed us that the Department would not be producing those documents. The only offer they made involved us ending our investigation.

“While I still hope the Department will reconsider its decision so tomorrow’s vote can be postponed, after this meeting I cannot say that I am optimistic. At this point, we simply do not have the documents we have repeatedly said we need to justify the postponement of a contempt vote in committee.”

Stay tuned for updates.


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KEYWORDS: 2deadfeds; 300deadmexicans; atf; banglist; corruption; dea; democrats; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; fraud; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; holdertruthfile; ice; murdergate; obama
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1 posted on 06/19/2012 3:36:42 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Enough of these *looming* charges. Charge Holder with contempt and anything else Congress can throw at him. Enough is enough.


2 posted on 06/19/2012 3:40:36 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Kaslin

3 posted on 06/19/2012 3:41:28 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The media ignored the 40th anniversary of Bill Ayers' Pentagon bombing but not Watergate. Ask Why.)
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To: Kaslin
Not sure, but Holder may be starting to realize he has met his match. Issa is not a mere Chicago alley thug. Issa is a guy who used to defuse bombs in the Army. He won't buckle just because a faggy black street pimp glowers at him.
4 posted on 06/19/2012 3:43:27 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Kaslin

Let us now see just HOW big a disaster the GOP wants on it’s hands come November.

Let’s just SEE.


5 posted on 06/19/2012 3:44:31 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Kaslin

Holder’s is corrupt as they come. He has not delivered documents. His only purpose now is to pick off as many RAT house votes on the contempt charge to make it look like a GOP
witch hunt. That’s all it is.


6 posted on 06/19/2012 3:44:35 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Kaslin
They will not lay a glove on him, they are chicken sh***. It has been too long and too late. The same with immigration abuse.
7 posted on 06/19/2012 3:44:42 PM PDT by boomop1 (term limits will only save this country.)
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To: Kaslin

Strongly worded letter to follow tomorrow...

Total B.S. and political theater. Nothing will ever come of this. Our President and his cronies are raping the country and urinating on the Constitution and our do nothing worthless Congress and Senate just sit still and watch it happen.


8 posted on 06/19/2012 3:45:39 PM PDT by Newbomb Turk (The sheepdogs guard the sheep.)
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To: Kaslin
A one on one meeting with no documents from the DOJ submitted??,, Holder told Issa where the cow eats the cabbage.
9 posted on 06/19/2012 3:45:52 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: Kaslin

Don’t just loom. Lower the boom!


10 posted on 06/19/2012 3:47:19 PM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: Kaslin

They'll roll over. They always do.

11 posted on 06/19/2012 3:47:46 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Kaslin

Let the voting begin.


12 posted on 06/19/2012 3:52:23 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: a fool in paradise

That is a great post!

Only someone as old as me would know that is from Casa Blanca!

LOL!

Blessings to You!

Blessings, Bobo


13 posted on 06/19/2012 3:53:16 PM PDT by bobo1 (I only capitalize to those that deserve)
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To: Snickering Hound

They now have to choices

Push this hard or just close up shop and admit that Obama is a dictator.


14 posted on 06/19/2012 3:54:18 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Kaslin; Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; ...

Watched holder’s remarks after the meeting. If I was bulimic, it would have done the trick.

Ping.


15 posted on 06/19/2012 3:55:37 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: fatnotlazy

If Holder was a republican and democrats were running this hearing, Holder would already be in prison..


16 posted on 06/19/2012 3:57:18 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: Venturer
"Push this hard or just close up shop and admit that Obama is a dictator."

I'm putting my money on dictator. If "Obama" has been allowed to Occupy the pResidency for going on four years without having ever qualified under the Twentieth Amendment, Section #3, then all constitutionally bullish bets are off.

17 posted on 06/19/2012 4:03:02 PM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: Kaslin
Memoirs of a Concubine? It was long and boring, like this.
18 posted on 06/19/2012 4:03:59 PM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: marktwain; MestaMachine; harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; ...
Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
19 posted on 06/19/2012 4:04:22 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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ph


20 posted on 06/19/2012 4:06:23 PM PDT by xone
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To: goat granny
If Holder was a republican and democrats were running this hearing, Holder would already be in prison.

That's the fact, Jack!
[though ... having the MSM in your back pocket is extraordinary help]

21 posted on 06/19/2012 4:06:25 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: fatnotlazy

Nothing will happen to Holder that Obama and the press can’t blame on Republicans.


22 posted on 06/19/2012 4:07:16 PM PDT by The Brush
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To: Kaslin
Didn't Holder ask for this meeting...and he brings diddly swat?

One has to wonder what he the hell holder is hiding that is worth a contempt charge...

Maybe I'm just a rube, but I don't see how this helps Obama or the democratic party in the long run...

Yes, they can claim GOP racism and try and make political hay with this ....but at the end of the day....somebody needs to answer for F&F and it isn't going to be the GOP...

Unless the fix is already in....

23 posted on 06/19/2012 4:07:28 PM PDT by Popman (When you elect a clown: expect a circus...)
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To: Popman

it still boggles my mind how this could be construed in any way as racism. seriously. holder isn’t facing contempt charges because he’s black...it’s because he isn’t complying!

how, tell me, how could this be spun as racism by the msm? are they actually claiming that it is?


24 posted on 06/19/2012 4:17:28 PM PDT by Conservaliberty (25 and conservative. I guess I have no heart, Oh, well, makes shooting the bad guys easier.)
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To: Popman

Didn’t Holder ask for this meeting...and he brings diddly swat?


But Issa said, “Today, the Attorney General informed us that the Department would not be producing those documents. The only offer they made involved us ending our investigation.”

...Appears the thug top cop made an offer that Issa shouldn’t refuse.

Issa Plans to Move Forward With Holder Contempt Vote

http://influencealley.nationaljournal.com/2012/06/issa-plans-to-move-forward-wit.php


25 posted on 06/19/2012 4:19:08 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: bobo1
Only someone as old as me would know that is from Casa Blanca!

Oh,come on. I'm certainly not as old as you and I knew that was from Casa Blanca.

26 posted on 06/19/2012 4:20:17 PM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: goat granny; All
If Holder was a republican and democrats were running this hearing, Holder would already be in prison..

You are correct, but it has little to do with intestinal fortitude.

It has everything to do with who has controlled the MSM for these last 50 years.

27 posted on 06/19/2012 4:21:20 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Popman
The GOP is not gonna win the black vote, so cries of racism are immaterial. The GOP has no reason to support Holder, just because he is black. Unlike the Dems, of course.
28 posted on 06/19/2012 4:28:37 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: MestaMachine

Whaaa?


29 posted on 06/19/2012 4:29:43 PM PDT by Principled (It's not enthusiasm for Romney, it's grim determination to remove Hussein)
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To: Conservaliberty

Simple. When leftist are going to act racist, they first blame their opponents of racism. That then gives them cover to be racist. So the left wants to support Holder simply because he is black. They are the racist and they need cover. You can apply that rule to just about any situation.


30 posted on 06/19/2012 4:30:39 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Conservaliberty
how, tell me, how could this be spun as racism by the msm?

Oh' that's easy....since they would actually have to report on F&F like real reporters and they are incapable of doing that...

The race card is the only thing left they have....

31 posted on 06/19/2012 4:31:18 PM PDT by Popman (When you elect a clown: expect a circus...)
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To: Kaslin

Issa = I ‘m Still Screwing Around


32 posted on 06/19/2012 4:34:27 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: submarinerswife

Shucks, I am 59 years old and my wife who is 4 years younger than me would not have identified that picture!

couse, she hates old movies. my favorite is The Caine Mutiny, as far as Humphrey Bogart is concerned.

Blessings, Bobo


33 posted on 06/19/2012 4:34:46 PM PDT by bobo1 (i)
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To: bobo1
I'm 44 and Casablanca has been my favorite movie since I was 14. So don't go pullin' any of this "age" stuff on us! ;-)
34 posted on 06/19/2012 4:39:52 PM PDT by workerbee (We're not scared, Maobama -- we're pissed off!)
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To: Kaslin
Crazy and more crazy. A real investigation, a sham, or something much more sinister. I figure plans have been set on both sides, but I do sense that time is the wild card for whatever rule is reality and lack of it will start motions.
35 posted on 06/19/2012 4:41:12 PM PDT by TBall
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To: gaijin
Let us now see just HOW big a disaster the GOP wants on it’s hands come November. Let’s just SEE.

Does this mean you agree with Speaker Boehner, that Issa's investigation is just a "distraction" from the election?

36 posted on 06/19/2012 4:41:33 PM PDT by workerbee (We're not scared, Maobama -- we're pissed off!)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/gunrunner.htm


37 posted on 06/19/2012 4:49:37 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Kaslin

Congress = Against Growth - literally!

They won’t touch Holder, because they are still too worried about some dufus baseball player who may or may not have taken steriods...... Last time I checked, any athlete taking steriods never killed anybody - geez, we can’t say that about our AG, can we?


38 posted on 06/19/2012 4:58:14 PM PDT by Cyclone59 (Obama is like Ron Burgundy - he will read ANYTHING that is on the teleprompter)
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To: Kaslin

How is Weeper, Boner, Boehner (sic?) handling this? Will he interfere? If so, he should be held under contempt along with Holder.


39 posted on 06/19/2012 5:07:42 PM PDT by hummingbird (Breitbart and Spartacus: here, there, everywhere.)
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To: Kaslin

How is Weeper, Boner, Boehner (sic?) handling this? Will he interfere? If so, he should be held under contempt along with Holder.


40 posted on 06/19/2012 5:07:51 PM PDT by hummingbird (Breitbart and Spartacus: here, there, everywhere.)
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To: Principled

Wouldn’t have had to stick my finger down my throat to gag myself as bulimics are wont to do.


41 posted on 06/19/2012 5:16:34 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: MestaMachine

I’m a little [well, ok... more than a little] slow at times...


42 posted on 06/19/2012 5:19:03 PM PDT by Principled (It's not enthusiasm for Romney, it's grim determination to remove Hussein)
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To: Popman
“One has to wonder what he the hell holder is hiding”

-———————— what he the hell holder is SCHREDING.

43 posted on 06/19/2012 5:22:53 PM PDT by hummingbird (Breitbart and Spartacus: here, there, everywhere.)
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To: justa-hairyape

Why isn’t this an October surprise?

What more can be used for October surprise?


44 posted on 06/19/2012 5:27:19 PM PDT by hummingbird (Breitbart and Spartacus: here, there, everywhere.)
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To: bobo1
“Only someone as old as me would know that is from Casa Blanca!”


Of course I know that.

“Round up the usual suspects” is one of my favorite lines from that movie.

They are in “Casablanca”....means White House, doesn't it.

Used Casablanca intentionally? I've wondered about that for many years.

45 posted on 06/19/2012 5:33:38 PM PDT by hummingbird (Breitbart and Spartacus: here, there, everywhere.)
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To: goat granny
If Holder was a republican and democrats were running this hearing, Holder would already be in prison..

Guess who gets to arrest Holder and put him in prison for Contempt of Congress, if it comes to that?

The Attorney General of the USA would be responsible for enforcing a contempt decision.

46 posted on 06/19/2012 5:41:28 PM PDT by okie01
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To: Popman
One has to wonder what he the hell holder is hiding that is worth a contempt charge...

The President's involvement...from the very outset.

47 posted on 06/19/2012 5:44:12 PM PDT by okie01
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To: hummingbird

Sorry for the post burp.


48 posted on 06/19/2012 5:44:48 PM PDT by hummingbird (Breitbart and Spartacus: here, there, everywhere.)
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To: gaijin
Let us now see just HOW big a disaster the GOP wants on it’s hands come November.

Care to expand your thinking on that?

Separation of Powers conflicts are Big Deals and this clearly involves a corrosive racial divide as well. Yet doing nothing about this blatant contempt of Congress' Constitutional powers solves nothing. This may have to end with a bang, not a whimper.

49 posted on 06/19/2012 5:46:58 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: MestaMachine
“Wouldn’t have had to stick my finger down my throat to gag myself as bulimics are wont to do.”


My sister, who has always had a bit of a weight problem, says she is a failed bulimic because it sounds kind of messy to clean up, so she takes a pass on it.

50 posted on 06/19/2012 5:50:16 PM PDT by hummingbird (Breitbart and Spartacus: here, there, everywhere.)
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