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Romney: Marco Rubio being ‘thoroughly vetted’ for VP consideration
Yahoo News ^ | 19 Jun 12 | Holly Bailey

Posted on 06/19/2012 4:29:13 PM PDT by Drew68

HOLLAND, Mich.—Mitt Romney said Tuesday his campaign is vetting Florida Sen. Marco Rubio as a potential vice presidential candidate, contradicting several reports suggesting otherwise.

Romney told reporters Rubio is being "thoroughly vetted" for the VP job and described stories reporting contrary news as "false."

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"...The story was entirely false. Marco Rubio is being thoroughly vetted as part of our process."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birther; eligibility; ineligible; marcorubio; mittromney; moonbatbirther; naturalborncitizen; rino; romney; romney2012; rubio
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Several threads today about Rubio not being vetted. This should set the record straight.
1 posted on 06/19/2012 4:29:17 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68

Didn’t Rubio last night on Hannity say he wasn’t being vetted?


2 posted on 06/19/2012 4:32:56 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 0bie don' t eat my dog!)
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To: Drew68

But he isn’t eligible. His parents were not citizens at the time of his birth.


3 posted on 06/19/2012 4:33:11 PM PDT by Principled (It's not enthusiasm for Romney, it's grim determination to remove Hussein)
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To: Drew68

Ineligible AND a Mormon make for instant qualification
to Mr. RINO RomneyCARE.


4 posted on 06/19/2012 4:35:35 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Drew68

It does explain why Rubio has been everywhere giving speeches and showing up in interviews. Too bad he keeps insisting on revealing himself to be a race baiter.


5 posted on 06/19/2012 4:35:39 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: Drew68

Some cub reporter figured out the best way to determine whether something IS happening, is to report that it is NOT...

Let’s hope Mitt wasn’t trying to keep this a secret.
I’m betting he doesn’t have much poker experience....


6 posted on 06/19/2012 4:36:33 PM PDT by G Larry
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To: Diogenesis

Is Rubio a Mormon!? I didn’t know they let Cubans into the LDS.


7 posted on 06/19/2012 4:36:49 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: Principled

But he supports Amnesty! !
...makes Romney’s short list.


8 posted on 06/19/2012 4:37:04 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Principled

But he supports Amnesty! !
...makes Romney’s short list.


9 posted on 06/19/2012 4:37:04 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Diogenesis

Feel free to volunteer for the Obama campaign, if you prefer the ONLY alternative.


10 posted on 06/19/2012 4:38:23 PM PDT by G Larry
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To: Principled
But he isn’t eligible. His parents were not citizens at the time of his birth.

He does have a problem with double allegiance.

Cuba by law makes a claim on him that Marco Rubio as one of their own citizens. Rubio was born to Cuban citizens at the time of his birth. Cuba ONLY sees him as Cuban. They do not recognize Rubio's US 14th Amendment citizenship.

Verbatim from a US State Department website:


"Dual Nationality

The Government of Cuba does not recognize the U.S. nationality of U.S. citizens who are Cuban-born or are the children of Cuban parents. These individuals will be treated solely as Cuban citizens and may be subject to a range of restrictions and obligations, including military service...."

Source: http://havana.usint.gov/service.html

11 posted on 06/19/2012 4:39:24 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: TexasCajun

This is a head fake to keep libs hyperventilating. Gen petraeus will be vp.


12 posted on 06/19/2012 4:39:25 PM PDT by BarryM
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To: Principled

“But he isn’t eligible. His parents were not citizens at the time of his birth.”

That doesn’t matter. He was born on US soil therefore, under the 14th Amendment, he is an American citizen.


13 posted on 06/19/2012 4:40:07 PM PDT by Woodsman27
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To: Red Steel

Did you not get the tweet? The 14th is dead along with the rest of the US Constitution.


14 posted on 06/19/2012 4:41:04 PM PDT by bgill
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To: BarryM

The head fake by Romney here is likely so.


15 posted on 06/19/2012 4:41:33 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Drew68

Another one we don’t want or need stuffed down our throats with a pitchfork.

Great.


16 posted on 06/19/2012 4:41:47 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (You've been screwed by your government.)
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To: Red Steel

It doesn’t matter what Cuba or any other country thinks of him. It matters what our government thinks of him and our government, following our Constitution, considers him a natural born citizen.


17 posted on 06/19/2012 4:42:10 PM PDT by Woodsman27
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To: Drew68

Yawn.


18 posted on 06/19/2012 4:46:44 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Woodsman27

American citizen, yes. Natural Born Citizen, not so much. Words have meaning.


19 posted on 06/19/2012 4:49:09 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Woodsman27

Natural born by definition is that there is no need of intervention by law to make persons citizens of a country. The 14th Amendment or any other man-made statutes, cannot create natural born citizens and therefore, they are not natural.

Moreover, the adoption of the 14th Amendment did not amend the Constitutional NBC clause.


20 posted on 06/19/2012 4:49:09 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Woodsman27
Psssst! Hey noob:
21 posted on 06/19/2012 4:52:39 PM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Woodsman27
“That doesn’t matter. He was born on US soil therefore, under the 14th Amendment, he is an American citizen.”

Please educate yourself on this issue. He needs to be a “NATURAL BORN CITIZEN”. When it comes to eligibility for president or vice president as soon as you mention the 14th amendment, you show that you have not studied enough. The 14th amendment says NOTHING about “NATURAL BORN CITIZEN”. The phrase does not appear there, PERIOD. It appears ONLY in Article II, Section 1, Clause 5. Article XII extends this to include the vice president.

Just being “a citizen”, isn't enough to be president or vice president.

22 posted on 06/19/2012 4:56:05 PM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Woodsman27

the kenyan commie was born in kenya and he is in the white house.


23 posted on 06/19/2012 4:57:05 PM PDT by biggredd1
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To: Woodsman27
That doesn’t matter. He was born on US soil therefore, under the 14th Amendment, he is an American citizen.

Welcome to FR.

OK so it DOES matter. First, the requirement in question is that the president be a natural born citizen, not simply citizen.

So while Rubio is clearly a citizen, he is just as clearly NOT a natural born citizen [not born on US soil to two US citizens at the time of his birth] hence Rubio is not eligible.

24 posted on 06/19/2012 4:58:48 PM PDT by Principled (It's not enthusiasm for Romney, it's grim determination to remove Hussein)
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To: Red Steel
The head fake by Romney here is likely so.

Yep

25 posted on 06/19/2012 4:59:46 PM PDT by Principled (It's not enthusiasm for Romney, it's grim determination to remove Hussein)
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To: Woodsman27
“.....our Constitution, considers him a natural born citizen......”

It does NOT! Born in the U.S. of two citizen parentS. It is so simple, I don't understand why some of you don't get it.

The framers meant it to be BOTH PARENTS, without question. The Supreme Court has ruled, BOTH PARENTS, without question.

This issue has been decided, actually it was never in question. The framers KNEW what they were doing. They KNEW what “Natural Born” meant.

26 posted on 06/19/2012 5:04:21 PM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Principled
"But he isn’t eligible. His parents were not citizens at the time of his birth."

That's already been settled by "Precedent", vis-a-vis, the Usurper from Kenya that's occupying the White Hut now......we don't need no steenkin' Constitution anymore (and NO ONE in Congress will challenge it).

Likewise, the Romney/Rubio ticket will give us two RINO's for the price of one.

27 posted on 06/19/2012 5:04:58 PM PDT by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Drew68

Well I sure hope the vetting really is “thorough” and looks into Rubio’s natural born citizen status. Unlike the miserable vetting job that the DNC did!


28 posted on 06/19/2012 5:06:11 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Woodsman27
"He was born on US soil therefore, under the 14th Amendment, he is an American citizen"

No; that's NOT what the 14th Amendment says, but the Courts have RULED that it allows Anchor Babies to be treated that way. If you are vacationing in the USA as a Foreigner, or even here ILLEGALLY, you can drop a U.S. Citizen here and we pay their way forever......NOT what the 14th Amendment was intended to do, at all.

29 posted on 06/19/2012 5:07:12 PM PDT by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Woodsman27
American citizens aren't eligible for the VP or the presidency. Only Natural Born Citizens are eligible - Big difference.

Geez, where have you been, sonny. .

30 posted on 06/19/2012 5:24:29 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: Woodsman27
That doesn’t matter. He was born on US soil therefore, under the 14th Amendment, he is an American citizen.

You are correct. Those telling you that you are wrong have lost in every courtroom they've tried to argue their case.

31 posted on 06/19/2012 5:28:25 PM PDT by Drew68 (I WILL vote to defeat Barack Hussein Obama!)
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To: Woodsman27
"It matters what our government thinks of him and our government, following our Constitution, considers him a natural born citizen"

His parents were not citizens at the time of his birth. He's just a plain old citizen - that doesn't cut it. But there are many more areas of employment that he may seek within the "government" - Golly, he's already a useless reacharound RINO senator, what more does he want?

32 posted on 06/19/2012 5:28:46 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: Drew68

The loonies who think that Rubio doesn’t qualify are out in force, obviously not realizing that precedent is all and several of our former presidents (and in fact, possibly Romney himself) would not qualify under their bizarre self-appointed standards.

Leaving that aside, I hope Romney doesn’t suggest Rubio, because Rubio needs to move away from Romney and get back to his conservative roots. Rubio is a great speaker and an extremely intelligent man, and I think he will be our President someday unless Bambi leaves the country in ashes.

However, Rubio has been getting more and more Establishment, and I think this is both a betrayal of the people who worked for and elected him, and a betrayal of his own principles in the interest of being more acceptable to the “mainstream” GOP. I hope he gets back to his conservative roots.


33 posted on 06/19/2012 5:30:12 PM PDT by livius
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To: Principled
"But he isn’t eligible. His parents were not citizens at the time of his birth."

It is encouraging to realize how many citizens are not sheep, how many trust their intellects, and probably read the original sources. Most of those in the media, regardless of their claimed association with principles, conservative or liberal, confidently avoid the Chief Justice Waite and Chief Justice Marshall and Chief Justice Charles Evans Hughes and the 14th Amendment.

Every US Senator (but McCain, because he was the subject) in April of 2008 signed his or her agreement with the following quotation from the archives of the Senate Judiciary Committee:

“My assumption and my understanding is that if you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-born American citizen,” Chertoff replied. “That is mine, too,” said Leahy.

Larry Klayman may have some failings, but he is unassailable in his citation of Minor v. Happersett regarding Obama’s ineligibility. Chief Justice Waite explained:

“The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”

The Minor case was “held precedent” in a number of supreme court definitions. Were there any doubt about the significance of this Soro’s Center For American Progress confirmed it by editing some twenty five Supreme Court decisions containing citations to Minor v. Happerset over the Summer of 2008. Cornell Law School did the same, again with oversight of Soro’s Center for Am. Progress's CIO, Carl Malamud, edited out a whole paragraph of Re: Lockwood, because it cites to Minor has “held” law - precedent. (Obama almost appointed Carl Director of the US Govt Printing Office; there is no telling what might have become of our national archives had that happened).

No court has contested Minor v. Happersett. The weaseling of judges is something to behold. Federal judges are a disgrace. Oaths clearly mean nothing. Even the military is infected, as they showed with the Colonel Lakin hearing, not allowing a decorated officer to present evidence, and sending him to Leavenworth because Obama’s citizenship papers could “be embarrassing.” They even blithly reordered the chain of military command, eliminating the Commander in Chief from responsibility for orders.

Until there is acknowledgment that the Constitution is no longer our foundation Obama’s ineligibility will not be forgotten. Supreme Court cases and the documents of founders and framers are being scrubbed and edited, but there is still paper in some libraries. We can all guess at why - McCain's entitlement as a former prisoner of war, the need for Rubio so that the crony capitalism which is so essential to the wealth of congressmen (read Schweizer’s “Throw Them All Out”), since Rubio’s ineligibility will insure that he is owned by those behind the curtain, .... the suppression of Article II Section 1 was deemed necessary. We know that at least twenty five attempts to amend it failed, right up to 2006, three by John Conyers between 2002 and 2007 afmed at Obama, one by Hatch for Scharzenegger, and four other attempts, not counting the Obama/McCaskill SB 2678, though it needed to be an amendment to have affect (and this writer might have supported SB 2678).

The only uncertainty about Obama’s ineligibility is that there is no law that forces the Supreme Court to abide by precedent. They could make new precedent. But until they do, Obama is not a constitutional president, even if the press and public use that title. As Justice Thomas pointed out, the Court is evading the issue. We are presumably a nation of laws, and not men, though John Adams might judge that we have failed to protect, and thus lost, our constitutional protections.

34 posted on 06/19/2012 5:31:09 PM PDT by Spaulding
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. . . . . "have lost in every courtroom they've tried to argue their case.

Please cite.

35 posted on 06/19/2012 5:34:57 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: Drew68
"he is an American citizen." "You are correct." Now, I say, listen to me, I say listen to me when I'm a-talkin' to you boy. We're talkin' about "natural born citizens" Rhode Island Reds, in other words: the real deal, the bona fide article, not just citizens, Andrew, you inarticulate part of the settin' hen that crosses the fence last, now lissen:
36 posted on 06/19/2012 5:35:56 PM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Red Steel
As conservatives, our side must remain principled and adhere to the letter of the Constitution. Otherwise, we are no better then the rats. Just because Obama was able to weasel his way into the presidency in spite the fact that he was and is not constitutionally qualified, is no reason for us to accept this lawlessness on our side. We must set the example and insist that our candidates are properly vetted. Assuming that we adhere to the original intent of the framers, we know that because Obama’s father was a British subject from Kenya, he in no way meets the constitutional requirements for US President. We know he is a usurper. On our side, when both Rubio and Jindal were born, neither had even one citizen parent. I like them both. They are and have been effective conservatives. To be effective now, each should announce that they can not accept the nomination for vp because they are not constitutionally eligible to be president. AND that would put us at an big advantage because the issue of Obama's ineligibility would be placed on the front burner. So the question is, will their political ambitions override proper constitutional enforcement of the law?
37 posted on 06/19/2012 5:37:09 PM PDT by Save-the-Union
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To: Drew68

“Ineligible” bump


38 posted on 06/19/2012 5:42:49 PM PDT by Dajjal ("I'm not concerned about the very poor." -- severely conservative Mitt 'Etch-A-Sketch' Rmoney)
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To: Red Steel

It’s irrelevant that Cuba’s communist law declares people outside of its borders to still be ‘one of theirs’. We do not recognize that law in the United States. It is also totally ridiculous to use a communist law in a foreign country making claims on people as evidence for “a problem with double allegiance.”


39 posted on 06/19/2012 5:46:41 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Drew68

Forget his citizen status for a minute, Rubio is about as qualified to be a heartbeat from the presidency as Obama was 4 years ago. I am not interested in an unqualified pretty boy with good hair that is going to pull in some imaginary “hispanic vote”. Rubio would be an even worse choice than Huntsman.


40 posted on 06/19/2012 5:47:20 PM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: Spaulding
No court has contested Minor v. Happersett. The weaseling of judges is something to behold. Federal judges are a disgrace.

Right. The defendant Obama lawyers in Voeltz v. Obama FL ballot case were told by the presiding judge to cite supporting evidence that Obama is a natural born citizen.

I quote from this thread's article,

"Then the judge said he wanted Obama’s representatives to cite the “authority” on which they based their argument that it isn’t necessary to have two citizen parents to be a natural-born citizen. "

You may have noticed in yesterday's FL court hearing that the OBot lawyers ignored the judge to "cite the authority" as stated above. The OBot lawyer Herron in his last statement to the court was for the presiding judge to ignore old "treatise" and/or to this effect. The translation is for the judge to ignore all the past Supreme Court opinions, which decide that Obama is not a natural born citizen.

A damning weak and lame defense by Obama.

41 posted on 06/19/2012 5:54:29 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Woodsman27

You are woefully uninformed on the subject. Not your fault, most people are. It has nothing to do with the 14th amend. or being a US citizen. Art. II requires 2 citizen parents at the time of birth.


42 posted on 06/19/2012 5:56:24 PM PDT by rickyc
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To: rickyc
Art. II requires 2 citizen parents at the time of birth.

No, it doesn't. Never has. This is nothing more than made-up birther nonsense.

43 posted on 06/19/2012 6:00:08 PM PDT by Drew68 (I WILL vote to defeat Barack Hussein Obama!)
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To: rickyc

I’m not uninformed, but there are other interpretations. My point was that I don’t need to be convinced of that point of view to oppose Rubio as a candidate at this time. He needs about 20 more years of experience.


44 posted on 06/19/2012 6:00:17 PM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: Woodsman27
You can not be a President or Vice President by the 14th Amendment.

Article II section 1 Clause 5 specifically states that you must be natural born for these 2 positions.

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
45 posted on 06/19/2012 6:00:54 PM PDT by jcsjcm (This country was built on exceptionalism and individualism. In God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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To: rickyc

Sorry, saw Woodsman and thought I saw Wolfman. You weren’t talking to me so disregard my reply please.


46 posted on 06/19/2012 6:02:06 PM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: Drew68

it’s a stupid story. nobody wants Rubio either.


47 posted on 06/19/2012 6:06:29 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: livius
Leaving that aside, I hope Romney doesn’t suggest Rubio, because Rubio needs to move away from Romney and get back to his conservative roots.

I no longer believe Rubio is the shoe-in I previously thought he was. I'm starting to think he'll pick Bob McDonnell. Romney absolutely needs to win Florida and Virginia. I think he'll win Florida regardless of who's on the ticket and I don't think Rubio will help him pick up any Hispanic voters other than Cubans who were already going to vote for him. He's in a tight race in Virginia with Virgil Goode serving as spoiler and Gov. McDonnell might help push him over the top in this "must have" state.

All this being said, Rubio is indeed eligible for the presidency despite the birther clown car arriving on every thread with his name in the title to spew their losing nonsense.

48 posted on 06/19/2012 6:08:36 PM PDT by Drew68 (I WILL vote to defeat Barack Hussein Obama!)
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To: Woodsman27
You have to be a slave first, but that's not the point. Actually, it's not he 14th that makes you a citizen it's an administrative determination of ICE ~ from way back, but that's all it is.

If an administrative determination is found faulty all the prior benefits are withdrawn. A court, if ever asked to rule on the matter, could turn about 30 million Americans into funny little foreign people.

49 posted on 06/19/2012 6:10:15 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah; Drew68

Drew68 just likes to pull out the constitutionalists with these types of articles. He loves being on the side of debunking the 2 citizen parent requirement. He enjoys ruffling feathers! ;)


50 posted on 06/19/2012 6:10:57 PM PDT by jcsjcm (This country was built on exceptionalism and individualism. In God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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