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White House Readies Ramming Speed if Supremes Strike Down Mandate
Fox News ^ | June 19, 2012 | Chris Stirewalt

Posted on 06/19/2012 5:06:37 PM PDT by QT3.14

"Legislatively we can't do a thing, and we are going to move full speed ahead (with implementation).”

-- A Democratic “congressional official” talking to the Associated Press about plans in the Obama administration to proceed with the president’s 2010 health law even if the Supreme Court strikes down its central provision requiring all Americans to either purchase insurance or be enrolled in a government program.

The looming Supreme Court decision on President Obama’s 2010 health law has Washington in a state of high anxiety.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012; backoffbarry; bhofascism; corruption; democrats; elections; fubo; healthcare; liberalfascism; nobama2012; obama; obamacare; obamatruthfile; scotus; socialistdemocrats; socialisthealthcare; treason; tyranny
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1 posted on 06/19/2012 5:06:47 PM PDT by QT3.14
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To: QT3.14

We don't need no stinking SCOTUS decision!


2 posted on 06/19/2012 5:08:25 PM PDT by QT3.14 ( USA: Likely only country in world history to adopt policies and laws that ensure self-destruction)
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To: QT3.14

Not surprising. Wonder who will stand up to them.


3 posted on 06/19/2012 5:08:56 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: QT3.14

If they rule it’s not severable, we’ll be able to hear the Democrat heads exploding all the way to Boston.


4 posted on 06/19/2012 5:09:54 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: QT3.14

If the mandate falls, the entire bill will be struck down. First, there is no severability clause by design. Second, how can the supremes evaluate all of the intricacies of what should be kept or not and what the consequences of each decision would be? ===> they can’t and they won’t.

They’ll say “no dice” and strike it all if they strike the mandate. It’s not gonna stay if it doesn’t all stay.


5 posted on 06/19/2012 5:10:29 PM PDT by Principled (It's not enthusiasm for Romney, it's grim determination to remove Hussein)
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To: mvpel

It’s dead Jim.


6 posted on 06/19/2012 5:11:54 PM PDT by Principled (It's not enthusiasm for Romney, it's grim determination to remove Hussein)
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To: QT3.14

Good. More people need to feel the pain before they finialy decide to ‘just say no’. Cloward Piven will result in an “UNEXPECTED! outcome before this is over.


7 posted on 06/19/2012 5:12:30 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: johniegrad

Republicans stand up? LOL! Do they even do that to pee?


8 posted on 06/19/2012 5:12:40 PM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: Principled

If the mandate falls, the entire bill will be struck down. First, there is no severability clause by design. Second, how can the supremes evaluate all of the intricacies of what should be kept or not and what the consequences of each decision would be? ===> they can’t and they won’t.

They’ll say “no dice” and strike it all if they strike the mandate. It’s not gonna stay if it doesn’t all stay.


Excellent points!


9 posted on 06/19/2012 5:12:45 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: QT3.14

10 posted on 06/19/2012 5:13:00 PM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: QT3.14
You go then, young Master Barry!

After all . . .

How many divisions does the Supreme Court have?

11 posted on 06/19/2012 5:14:03 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: HerrBlucher
Republicans stand up? LOL! Do they even do that to pee?

I don't care who you are, that's funny right there...

12 posted on 06/19/2012 5:16:16 PM PDT by Principled (It's not enthusiasm for Romney, it's grim determination to remove Hussein)
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To: QT3.14

13 posted on 06/19/2012 5:16:49 PM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: QT3.14

Law means NOTHING to this corrupt Moslem Tyrant from Kenya.

After all, ALL MOSLEMS Are EXEMPT FROM ObamaCARE/RomneyCARE.
Just Moslems, and ... Congress and their mistresses.


14 posted on 06/19/2012 5:17:47 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Principled

The problem is that they have let other (less controversial) laws slide without a severability clause, so there is precedent.


15 posted on 06/19/2012 5:18:10 PM PDT by livius
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To: QT3.14

Will none dare call it tyranny?


16 posted on 06/19/2012 5:20:19 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: QT3.14

Forget the constitution, forget the SCOTUS, forget the will of the people, Obama and the far left must have their way.


17 posted on 06/19/2012 5:21:56 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: livius

Yes, but the others did not have myriad and unknown unintended consequences. It’s waaaay too much in this case. Best to just say no and have legislature repair. Not doing so would be a stretch of unimaginable proportion.


18 posted on 06/19/2012 5:24:05 PM PDT by Principled (It's not enthusiasm for Romney, it's grim determination to remove Hussein)
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To: QT3.14

Let’s get together and send all our gonads to all the pubs that have none. Maybe we can order testostorone from the drug companies and give it to our representatives.

I am sure Lindsay could use some, along with the other sissybitches that belong to the pub party.

Instead of saying “I don’t think that is constitutional” they will say “It is not CONSTITUTIONAl” and we will bring down the idiot that wants to be king.

Think that an old man like me is tougher than all these pansies in the senate and in congress.

Blessings, Bobo


19 posted on 06/19/2012 5:26:59 PM PDT by bobo1 (i)
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To: QT3.14

20 posted on 06/19/2012 5:28:02 PM PDT by frithguild (You can call me Snippy the Anti-Freeper)
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To: QT3.14

I have no anxiety. I have anticipation it is dead.


21 posted on 06/19/2012 5:32:39 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Principled

Republicans have to be ready to cut all associated funding immediately including the IRS money for obamacare.


22 posted on 06/19/2012 5:34:10 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: All

Prophecy on target!

And maybe we need a Weepublican Party!


23 posted on 06/19/2012 5:34:48 PM PDT by QT3.14 ( USA: Likely only country in world history to adopt policies and laws that ensure self-destruction)
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To: mvpel
If they rule it’s not severable, we’ll be able to hear the Democrat heads exploding all the way to Boston.

Quite probably. However, if they rule that it is severable, their heads may be heard exploding all the way to California.

In this article, published last October, I suggested that

For the Supreme Court to agree with the Eleventh Circuit that the mandate is unconstitutional and to allow the rest of the law to remain standing would be the worst possible outcome for President Obama. That is what all judges who have found the individual mandate unconstitutional have done, with one exception.
With that result, ObamaCare would resemble an ObamaCare patient, sick and dying but unable to get nourishment. The Dems have no viable solution to offer, because there is none. That result would revive ObamaCare as a campaign issue to a far greater extent than would a Supreme Court decision killing it outright.

Although for other reasons I would prefer to see ObamaCare killed outright, for defeating President Obama the mandate amputation procedure would be superior.

24 posted on 06/19/2012 5:35:13 PM PDT by DanMiller (Dan Miller)
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To: luvbach1

It is way past time for a revolution! its either take back America and force the “public servants” to abide by our constitution or kiss our arses goodbye.


25 posted on 06/19/2012 5:36:50 PM PDT by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: Principled; livius

True, and if I recall correctly, SCOTUS scrutinized the problem of interdependence at the hearing. They definitely had that on their radar.


26 posted on 06/19/2012 5:38:48 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: QT3.14

That kid is a dork. Laboratory studies show that Romney is exactly the same as the fecal matter this child will produce if the Great Obama is re-elected.


27 posted on 06/19/2012 5:39:54 PM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: QT3.14

Impeach!


28 posted on 06/19/2012 5:40:52 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: mvpel
If they rule it’s not severable...

I hope the do rule that it's not severable. IIRC, The Senate explicitly removed the severability clause from the House bill.

To rule otherwise would be judicial activism.

-PJ

29 posted on 06/19/2012 5:44:26 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: QT3.14
Dear SCOTUS,

PLEASE DON'T THROW AMERICA AWAY.

Thank you,
The people

30 posted on 06/19/2012 5:47:39 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Principled
Second, how can the supremes evaluate all of the intricacies of what should be kept or not...

During oral arguments, didn't they ask that if the Congress wasn't willing to read the bill before voting on it, then why expect the Court to read it?

Sounds to me like they strike it all, especially if severability was purposely removed.

-PJ

31 posted on 06/19/2012 5:47:57 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: livius
The problem is that they have let other (less controversial) laws slide without a severability clause, so there is precedent.

There is a difference between no severability, and severability sent from the House but removed by vote in the Senate.

That's an express intent of no on severability.

-PJ

32 posted on 06/19/2012 5:50:28 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: johniegrad
No one in Congress will.. He just tore up the Constitution in our faces the other day with his amnesty for illegals brought here by parents but not on their own and what has anyone in Congress done...not a damn thing...so this won't matter to them either.

We are so screwed....

33 posted on 06/19/2012 5:57:36 PM PDT by celtic gal
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To: QT3.14

The issue upon which this case hangs is what Scottish Law says about it.


34 posted on 06/19/2012 5:58:59 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

As I recall they had to leave it as was because in the interim of House and Senate sending it back and forth, Scott Brown had gotten elected to the Senate. Unless it was agreed upon as it already was they would have had to vote again and by then they didn’t have the votes...something along those lines? It was a mess.


35 posted on 06/19/2012 6:07:05 PM PDT by Anima Mundi (ENVY IS JUST PASSIVE, LAZY GREED)
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To: Political Junkie Too; All
That's an express intent of no on severability.

Yes it was, they wanted the whole enchalata. They wanted no wiggle room or weaseling out of it, It was so complex, and intertwined in it's control they wanted no chance of any American not under it's control and they knew it would fall apart if it did.

Even with Dingell who wanted this for 50 years and put severability in the House Bill in a couple of spots, it still was removed.

It will be a double moment of Shadenfruede for me if it struck down, no love loss here for Dingell ( long story ) and also it was first reported on of the lack of Serverability in "The American Thinker".

I told an Uber Liberal Attorney former Labor Organzier for Chavez friend about the article and he said Na, it will never fall because of this.

Oh am I gonna rub it in...

36 posted on 06/19/2012 6:12:17 PM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

That kid is a dork.


He’s a cute little kid.

FUBO!!!


37 posted on 06/19/2012 6:21:28 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: QT3.14

What happens if the court strikes most of it down and Obama tries to implement it by Executive Order or interpretation of regulations?


38 posted on 06/19/2012 6:32:24 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: QT3.14

I hope the Supreme Court strikes it down. I’m relatively poor, too, BTW. The medical, insurance and big pharmaceutical rackets need to be busted. The answer is to bring costs and salaries down. We’re not going to live forever, even if we were to spend most of our production on that. For the time being, most of the money spent on it is debt (debt regime).

The best way is preventive exercise, rest, etc.


39 posted on 06/19/2012 6:33:50 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: frithguild

What movie is the death car / pirate car from?


40 posted on 06/19/2012 6:34:19 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: tbw2

animal house

RAMMMINGGGG SPEEEEDDDDD


41 posted on 06/19/2012 6:36:57 PM PDT by QualityMan (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: QT3.14

When does “consent of the governed” start to kick in?

We are going to be forced to eat this crap sandwich one way or the other.


42 posted on 06/19/2012 6:42:50 PM PDT by iceskater (The clock is ticking....November's coming.)
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To: luvbach1
Will none dare call it tyranny?

None of our GOP congress-critters, that's for sure. There's not one testicle among the entire sorry lot of them!

43 posted on 06/19/2012 6:45:33 PM PDT by kevao
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To: johniegrad

“Wonder who will stand up to them.”

####

I think its down to us RAYCYSTS.....


44 posted on 06/19/2012 6:47:23 PM PDT by EyeGuy (Armed, judgmental, fiscally responsible heterosexual.)
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To: tbw2

Bookmark


45 posted on 06/19/2012 6:56:39 PM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: tbw2

Animal House!

D. Day yelled out “Ramming Speed” and cut to the car emerging from the smoke and ...


46 posted on 06/19/2012 7:01:37 PM PDT by frithguild (You can call me Snippy the Anti-Freeper)
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To: HerrBlucher
Republicans stand up? LOL! Do they even do that to pee?

When your balls are missing you don't need to stand.

47 posted on 06/19/2012 7:09:15 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: QT3.14

With stories like this, the people will begin to think that 0Bama wants to foment an uprising or revolution. It would be wise for this person to come to grips with the oath of office he took, required by Article 2 of the U.S. Constitution, on January 20, 2009, “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.” Perhaps the “best of my ability” part was not taken seriously...


48 posted on 06/19/2012 7:13:27 PM PDT by Ranger Warrior ("To stand in silence when they should be protesting makes cowards out of men." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: unkus

didn’t you get the Obama = Mitt in every possible way memo???? Clue in man - Mitt even working on getting himself a big-ass wife


49 posted on 06/19/2012 7:14:30 PM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: atc23

“There is no justice...there is just us.”


50 posted on 06/19/2012 7:16:18 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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