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Like a lamb, London surrenders London Metal Exchange
Daily Telegraph (UK) ^ | 7:37PM BST 15 Jun 2012 | Damian Reece, Head of Business

Posted on 06/19/2012 11:44:40 PM PDT by Olog-hai

Hong Kong Exchange & Clearing has paid £1.4 billion for the London Metal Exchange, a company which makes £11.2 million operating profit—a multiple of more than 124 times.

Even Facebook only managed a multiple of 76 times when it floated, and look what's happened to that.

Clearly HKEx is desperate to buy LME, which is very good at what it does, and has basically agreed to pay any price necessary. Why?

On a mundane level, of no concern to you or me, it can now ramp up the fees it charges investment banks and the like to become members of the exchange and trade the world's industrial metals. LME's members are also its shareholders so will see HKEx recoup some value that way.

But HKEx will be able to use its influence with Beijing to funnel far more of China's metals buying activity through its LME subsidiary, creating value that way too.

To do so, it will open one or more of the LME's regulated warehouses in mainland China. These are the facilities needed for physical delivery. China accounts for 42 percent of world metal consumption, but only a smaller proportion of those volumes are traded through LME. …

We've tended to ignore any lack of reciprocity, but the LME deal is starting to make this casual ambivalence look like complacency. The LME's success took London 135 years to create. But its control has now gone to a place from where it can never be recovered because a different set of state-sponsored rules apply that would never be tolerated here. If we're willing to let LME go under such lopsided conditions, what's next?

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: globalrevolution; lme; redchina; resourcewar

1 posted on 06/19/2012 11:44:58 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Thank you for posting this.

(Things that make you go Hmmmmm.......?)


2 posted on 06/19/2012 11:51:25 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Olog-hai
If we're willing to let LME go under such lop-sided conditions, what's next?

Hey, it's already happened. Nothing's next.

3 posted on 06/19/2012 11:54:51 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Olog-hai
Pic from a train currently en route from Brighton and Hove to London.


4 posted on 06/20/2012 12:15:38 AM PDT by I see my hands (It's time to.. KICK OUT THE JAMS, MOTHER FREEPERS!)
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To: Olog-hai
Passing through Victoria Station.


5 posted on 06/20/2012 12:34:20 AM PDT by I see my hands (It's time to.. KICK OUT THE JAMS, MOTHER FREEPERS!)
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To: Olog-hai

The LME sold off for 124 years earnings. That’s not the action of a Lamb, but a Fox.

No-one has to trade on the LME. If the Chinese frack up the LME, traders can use or set up other exchanges.


6 posted on 06/20/2012 12:41:57 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: dr_lew

No, not true. Ever read the story of Esau selling his birthright for a bowl of pottage?


7 posted on 06/20/2012 2:09:34 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: agere_contra

Try again. They won’t be able to get that strategic exchange back. You don’t sell out to fanatics.


8 posted on 06/20/2012 2:10:37 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: I see my hands
I’ve visited that station. Saw the British Pullman cars for their leg of the Orient Express. Nowadays, that train could make an unbroken journey through the Eurotunnel Channel Tunnel . . .
9 posted on 06/20/2012 2:12:21 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Free market is what we preach, so free market is what we must practice.


10 posted on 06/20/2012 2:55:02 AM PDT by Caulkhead
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To: Caulkhead
Free market does not dictate selling out to enemies that do not themselves practice the free market. Especially strategic businesses. Alexander Hamilton was clear about possessing such within ourselves, which means not in the enemy’s hands.
11 posted on 06/20/2012 3:00:35 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
its control has now gone to a place from where it can never be recovered

Just take the money and set up a competitor. That's undoubtedly the plan.

12 posted on 06/20/2012 4:16:03 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: Olog-hai

Oh noes! How will people sell metals to each other without using that exchange?

The reason people use the LME is that it is efficient, cheap, fair and robust - and it has a good timezone.

If it stays that way then no-one has lost anything, and the Chinese will make a profit - in 125 years.

If it stops being that way then it becomes vulnerable to competition - and a new LME will arise.


13 posted on 06/20/2012 5:04:21 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Olog-hai
Look, I may be way off base here because I'm not, by any stretch of the imagination, a financial guy. But, this purchase of LME looks like just one more step in China's plan to replace the Dollar as the world's reserve currency with a gold-backed Yuan.

An interesting article in Money Morning back in November 2011, makes this seem a little more plausible than just some stupid Chinese paying too much money for something that won't see return for 124 years.

http://moneymorning.com/2011/11/22/china-changing-global-gold-market/

"While many investors have been distracted by the goings on in Europe, China has been making a dent in the global gold market by making it easier for investors to buy and invest in the yellow metal.

The goal: To dominate the global gold market and carve out a new role for its currency, the yuan. "

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"China is pushing gold because it wants the government and citizens to build financial reserves in assets stronger than the U.S. dollar, euro, and other weakening currencies. It also increases China's role in the precious metals market.

But there's another effect of this push for gold ownership: it's dislodging the dollar as the world's main reserve currency."

14 posted on 06/20/2012 6:43:41 AM PDT by Larry - Moe and Curly (Loose lips sink ships.)
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To: Olog-hai; agere_contra

as ac (who lives in Britain btw) said, “If the Chinese frack up the LME, traders can use or set up other exchanges.”


15 posted on 06/20/2012 6:45:31 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Cronos

When in history has that happened?


16 posted on 06/20/2012 11:11:12 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Larry - Moe and Curly

They would love for that to happen, but they know that nobody is going to accept a communist currency as a world reserve currency—unless of course their twisted dream of turning the whole world communist happens (or a significant chunk of the world, which would mean communist control of the vast majority of resources, but that will never happen). So far, their horse in terms of reserve currency remain the euro, for all its problems. They are definitely dedicated to knocking the dollar of its perch.


17 posted on 06/20/2012 11:15:28 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Well, since the Chinese have never fracked up an exchange yet, it hasn’t happened yet. however there are newer exchanges that knock the socks off older exchanges — the NASDAQ or the NSE for example. An exchange is only worth it if people want to trade on it.


18 posted on 06/20/2012 10:03:19 PM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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