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Is this the end of Eric Holder’s games?
NY Post ^ | 6-20-2012 | Michael A. Walsh

Posted on 06/20/2012 5:15:16 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot

Which is why — unless he produces the documents before 10 a.m. this morning — Holder is looking at a House committee vote on contempt of Congress charges; once the full House goes along, he’ll be only the 11th official to be so cited since 1975.

Then what? Technically, the citation goes to the US attorney for DC to present to a grand jury. Usually, lawyers for the White House and Congress huddle and work out some accommodation — but relations may be too poisonous for that now.

Holder also has the option to simply not prosecute himself — which would surely set off a firestorm, as would any attempt by him or the president to assert executive privilege at this late date.

The last thing President Obama needs heading into the election is even more controversy over his hyper-politicized chief law-enforcement officer — especially with some in Congress already calling for a special prosecutor to investigate intelligence leaks emanating from the administration.

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I was wondering what happens after the 'contempt' charge on AG.

But according to Allahpundit on HotAir, Boehner wishes to just bury the whole thing before it comes to a full House vote.

1 posted on 06/20/2012 5:15:20 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot
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We will see. No guts, no glory.

Ping.


2 posted on 06/20/2012 5:20:08 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Sir Napsalot; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; ...
RE :”Holder is looking at a House committee vote on contempt of Congress charges; once the full House goes along, he’ll be only the 11th official to be so cited since 1975.
Then what? Technically, the citation goes to the US attorney for DC to present to a grand jury. Usually, lawyers for the White House and Congress huddle and work out some accommodation — but relations may be too poisonous for that now.
Holder also has the option to simply not prosecute himself — which would surely set off a firestorm, as would any attempt by him or the president to assert executive privilege at this late date&
rdquo;

I will easily bet that Holder DOES NOT prosecute himself, and more-so outside of Republican circles few will care.

Repeating from another thread:
The Dem talking points have gone out and are being repeated over and over, I heard them on MSNBC and then Dems flooded all the CSPAN lines this morning including the Republican ones, the points go : “;Bush started that program (F+F) and Holder stopped it as soon as he learned about it. Issa promised from day 1 to bring the Obama administration down and this is nothing more than a witch hunt. “ .

It may be a lie but Republicans appear not to be organized like Dems are to counter it.

3 posted on 06/20/2012 5:22:56 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

“But according to Allahpundit on HotAir, Boehner wishes to just bury the whole thing before it comes to a full House vote.”

If that is correct then Boehner is also burying the election of REPUBs. Congress makes the laws and they may not care if they are enforced (equally and fairly), but we do. If Congress doesn’t pursue Holder they may as well never ask an admin for any information.


4 posted on 06/20/2012 5:24:12 AM PDT by rod1 (CTLY)
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To: Sir Napsalot

If Boehner decides, “to just bury the whole thing before it comes to a full House vote” he will also bury his position as leader.

I will notify my Representative and inform him a vote for Bonehead in the next Congress is a vote to come home. I can’t imagine I would be alone doing this either.


5 posted on 06/20/2012 5:26:08 AM PDT by vg0va3
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To: Sir Napsalot

This is NOT “Holder’s game”.
This is the Barry O’s Regime’s attack on the 2nd ammendment and nothing less.

AND a huge unwarrented assault on innocent Mexican citizens.

AND the RINOs in congress are a lousey bunch of GUTLESS COWARDS-—IMHO.


6 posted on 06/20/2012 5:31:06 AM PDT by Flintlock (THE TRUTH: It's the new hate speech..)
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To: Sir Napsalot

“Is this the end of Eric Holder’s games?”

Praying that it be so. Please let it be.


7 posted on 06/20/2012 5:31:39 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Nothing will happen afterward, Holder is judgement-proof because Obama will pardon him for anything that he may be charged with.

I’m Still Screwing Around (ISSA) and Boner are idiots, not even useful ones. Eunuchs.


8 posted on 06/20/2012 5:33:34 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: sickoflibs

Those may be the democrat talking points distributed by their propaganda organs in the media, but the Republicans have aimple effective counter they need to beat like a drum:

“If this was started by Bush, and ended by you, then you have nothing to hide. Turn over the documents.”


9 posted on 06/20/2012 5:34:13 AM PDT by henkster (Why should I care? Why should I care?)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Nothing stops these people other than actually stopping them.

No appeal to law, morality, or common decency deters them from their agenda.

Only physically stopping them and restraining them works.


10 posted on 06/20/2012 5:34:45 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Flintlock

Shoulda said “GUTLESS, FECKLESS, BALL-LESS, IRRESPONSIBLE, LYING, PREVARICATING, TRATOROUS,......................”


11 posted on 06/20/2012 5:36:16 AM PDT by Flintlock (THE TRUTH: It's the new hate speech..)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Is this the end of Eric Holder’s games?

Not a chance.

The zebra never doffs his stripes.


12 posted on 06/20/2012 5:36:33 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Jack Hammer

zebra? ...


13 posted on 06/20/2012 5:38:36 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Sir Napsalot
Is this the end of Eric Holder’s games?

Holder will continue to refuse to cooperate, and the Republicans will do absolutely nothing about it. End of story.

14 posted on 06/20/2012 5:41:09 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: vg0va3

Bipartisan = synonym for date rape.


15 posted on 06/20/2012 5:41:09 AM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: GreenHornet

Bingo


16 posted on 06/20/2012 5:43:04 AM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: Jack Hammer
Would love to see him in some zebra stripes!


17 posted on 06/20/2012 5:44:25 AM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Gun free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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18 posted on 06/20/2012 5:44:28 AM PDT by bcsco
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To: Sir Napsalot

I find it a complete affront to the Founders and the citizens of this country when an UN-ELECTED department head can refuse a request from an ELECTED Congress for documents WHICH ARE THE PROPERTY OF THE CITIZENS OF THE USA.

Why should this even be a discussion? Those are NOT affirmative action failure Holder’s documents, they are OURS. He was on our dime when they were created so ownership is NOT a question.

Forget contempt of congress, he should be fired on the spot and charged with theft of OUR property.

All these filthy enemy within lawyers sitting on these committees cannot seem to fathom Holder has no right to withhold OUR property?

If we do not immediately start to whittle down these pompous ruling elite to the public SERVANTS which they are, they will shortly be in complete control of every aspect of our lives and the ballot box will simply become Kubuki Theater if it has not already.


19 posted on 06/20/2012 5:45:05 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?

More “analogous to” than a “synonym for”


20 posted on 06/20/2012 5:45:59 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: rod1

I have heard many rumors and select innuendo pertaining to boner and this investigation. On the record boner has backed Issa every step of the way.

Do not pay attention to the man behind the curtain (msm) pay attention to the record.

It would appear that our patience is about to be rewarded, and justice is about to be served.

The only question left is, will fubo circle the wagons, or will a bus tossing be in order.... we will know by the end of the week..


21 posted on 06/20/2012 5:47:41 AM PDT by joe fonebone (I am the 15%)
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To: MrB
Nothing stops these people other than actually stopping them.

Sandy Berger was actually convicted and got a slap on the wrist, his security clearance returned a year later. You or I would be buried under a federal prison for a lot less.

Today, Berger is on the board of the International Crisis group sharing America's secrets with other board members like George Soros, Kofi Annan, Mohammad ElBaredai, and many more.

Nobility doesn't send nobility to prison. That's a punishment reserved for us little people.
22 posted on 06/20/2012 5:50:22 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: henkster; Sir Napsalot; Libloather
RE :”Those may be the democrat talking points distributed by their propaganda organs in the media, but the Republicans have aimple effective counter they need to beat like a drum:
“If this was started by Bush, and ended by you, then you have nothing to hide. Turn over the documents.

I like it, that is very good.

They need to learn how to take straight-forward short message like that and repeat in on every show like beating a drum.

What Dems are trying to get across to those not paying close attention is that Holder is investigating a scandle started by Bush justice department and his turning over those 'sensitive' documents will compromise that investigation of the Bush justice department.
I know this is not true but others dont know, they just see accusations fly back and forth.

23 posted on 06/20/2012 5:56:56 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: vg0va3
I will notify my Representative and inform him a vote for Bonehead in the next Congress is a vote to come home. I can’t imagine I would be alone doing this either.

Is the vote roll-called and published? Do we have the vote list from the beginning of this session?

24 posted on 06/20/2012 5:56:56 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: bigbob

“The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”

President cannot pardon impeachment and removal from office.

Not that the Senate would convict.


25 posted on 06/20/2012 5:56:56 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: vg0va3
Oh look! I think I see the Obama NBC Petition second from the bottom.
Boehner's got a lot of work to do

26 posted on 06/20/2012 6:00:21 AM PDT by tsowellfan (Should Obama recuse himself from making any decisions on immigration?)
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To: Jack Hammer; MrB
A leper never changes his spots, they just fall off ( along with various other body parts).
27 posted on 06/20/2012 6:06:32 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Sir Napsalot
Not so fast. Allapundit is wrong. Boehner's office was amazingly quick to jump on the rumors going around that Boehner was not supporting Issa. Boehner supports this action.

Boehner Pressures Holder Over Fast and Furious
28 posted on 06/20/2012 6:07:39 AM PDT by Sudetenland (Member of the BBB Club - Bye-Bye-Barry!!! President Barack "Down Low" Obama)
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To: Beagle8U

Let me guess - you were around in the 80’s when leper jokes were popular.


29 posted on 06/20/2012 6:11:24 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Long before that, but yes.


30 posted on 06/20/2012 6:15:50 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Sudetenland

That link was dated May 18.

This is a better link to clearify Boehner’s move (June 11).

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57450110-503544/house-committee-schedules-contempt-vote-against-holder/

You think Boehner may be worried that he does not have the vote count?


31 posted on 06/20/2012 6:38:30 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Holder just requested “Executive Privilege” protection from Obama. Must be some real dynamite in those files.


32 posted on 06/20/2012 6:54:03 AM PDT by Sudetenland (Member of the BBB Club - Bye-Bye-Barry!!! President Barack "Down Low" Obama)
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To: sickoflibs
It may be a lie but Republicans appear not to be organized like Dems are to counter it.

Holder sent over a 'few' heavily redacted pages, some were almost black...Holder was/is trying to stonewall until after the election hoping the Fast & Furious debacle would go away. (Obama Orders Launched Fast and Furious) note the dates.

For a more complete Obama time line: (A Conservative News and Opinion Resource)

33 posted on 06/20/2012 6:54:24 AM PDT by yoe (Proud to be part of the Tea Party movement.....!!!!!)
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To: Sir Napsalot
Appears as though it will shortly be a moot point.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2897278/posts?page=32#32
34 posted on 06/20/2012 6:57:54 AM PDT by Sudetenland (Member of the BBB Club - Bye-Bye-Barry!!! President Barack "Down Low" Obama)
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To: yoe
RE :”Holder sent over a ‘few’ heavily redacted pages, some were almost black...Holder was/is trying to stonewall until after the election hoping the Fast & Furious debacle would go away

Let's think about that.

After the contempt vote when Holder refuses to prosecute himself what is house Republicans next step? Isn't that the end of the line? Can they impeach Holder?

Obama/Holder's plan might work

Thanks for the link references.

35 posted on 06/20/2012 6:59:24 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: sickoflibs
Per Fox Business channel, Obama has just asserted executive privilege and the documents will not be provided. Wow!
36 posted on 06/20/2012 7:07:43 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: sickoflibs

Obama/Holder’s plan might work
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According to Drudge, Holder is asking Obama to declare Executive Privilege.

I don’t think that will fly very well.


37 posted on 06/20/2012 7:08:32 AM PDT by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: Sudetenland

I believe this point was settled against Holder & the 0bama regime in “United States v. Nixon.” I’m sure you remember that Supreme Court opinion; it was brought about by a number of Congressional Hearings where information of criminal activity on the part of the executive branch was sought by Congress. In fact, all of those proceedings have the status of sacred and holy objects in the church of liberalism.

How ironic that yesterday’s sauce for the goose is being cooked up for the gander today.

Proceed with the contempt motion. They should have claimed their “privilege” long ago.


38 posted on 06/20/2012 7:12:02 AM PDT by henkster (Why should I care? Why should I care?)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Just happening, it seems Obama has declared executive privilege on the F&F documents.

This could very well make things difficult for Obama & Thuggocracy, Inc.

First off, it will become VERY difficult for the ministry of propaganda to ignore this, although they’ll attempt to spin Issa’s investigation as a “fishing expedition.” But at least they’ll have to mention it, if only in passing.

Secondly, this is REALLY going to piss off the house members, and make the odds of passing contempt findings far greater, and there’s no way the ministry of propaganda can ignore that, thought again, they’ll fall back on “evil republicans” and racism.

Mark


39 posted on 06/20/2012 7:16:29 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: MarkL

“The White House has asserted executive privilege over documents related to the ‘Fast and Furious’ scandal. Stay tuned to Fox News Channel for developments on this breaking story.”

The criminal cabal composed of Obama, Jarrett, Napolitano, and Holder are all involved in a conspiracy which illegally trafficked assault weapons to international terrorist organizations (drug gangs). With the issuing of executive priveledge it is now clear Obama’s fingerprints are all over this. And Holder cannot claim to have been just following orders (didn’t work in the Nuremberg trials).

Hillary should immediately separate herself from these criminals, otherwise she may be implicated as well and thus forfeit any future political aspirations on the national level.


40 posted on 06/20/2012 7:26:31 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: henkster

41 posted on 06/20/2012 7:28:11 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: Sir Napsalot
Obama will “make” a Republican Congress impeach Holder..he needs some more racist ammunition in his belt for the fall campaign.
42 posted on 06/20/2012 7:36:33 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: JAKraig; Truth29; yoe; ProtectOurFreedom
RE :”Obama/Holder’s plan might work
According to Drudge, Holder is asking Obama to declare Executive Privilege.
I don’t think that will fly very well.

I recall that 2007 or 2008 there was similar standoff between Pelosi House judiciary (Conyers) and Bush administration and a few refused to testify under the same Privilege and so the Dems voted they were in contempt of congress and referred it to justice department who ignored it.

Then the whole thing went away till Holder took over, then Rove negotiated something so he wouldnt have to testify on TV.

My guess is that after a House vote Republicans will be out of options as long as obama is POTUS.

43 posted on 06/20/2012 7:52:20 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: Sir Napsalot
No I don't think Boehner is worried, he knows this 'contempt vote" will just roll off the back of Holder etc. like water. In 2008, the Democratic-led House Oversight Committee found former White House counsel Harriet Miers and Chief of Staff John Bolton in contempt for failing to cooperate with an inquiry into whether a purge of federal prosecutors by the Bush administration was politically motivated. The left doesn't care about facts...their aim is to kill...worried or not the GOP should take a page from their book. Bill Clinton fired all in the justice department when he took office...Bush should have done the same...the oft used "fairness" word means get Republicans to roll over...it doesn't apply to Progressives. (there is no democrat party anymore)
44 posted on 06/20/2012 8:02:40 AM PDT by yoe (Proud to be part of the Tea Party movement.....!!!!!)
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To: PapaBear3625

The votes are not “public”. But, let you Representative know that you will expect a public pronouncement on the issue of leadership.


45 posted on 06/20/2012 8:51:21 AM PDT by vg0va3
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To: sickoflibs; Sir Napsalot; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; ...

Holder committed a heinous criminal act.....get him!!


46 posted on 06/20/2012 8:57:29 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; sickoflibs; Sir Napsalot; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; ...

“...get him!!...”

They’re trying. Gotta give Issa a lot of credit. He’s fighting Boehner and others in his own party, as well as the entire DemRat political machine.

Guy’s got balls. Say a prayer for him and the success of his endeavor here. Right now, he and Grassly are the only ones pushing hard on this.

What amazes me are the continued comparisons to Nixon...Nixon was an American, at least. And nobody died during Watergate.

This is just disgusting.


47 posted on 06/20/2012 9:06:53 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: henkster; sickoflibs

“...“If this was started by Bush, and ended by you, then you have nothing to hide. Turn over the documents...”

Bingo. Spot-on.

Like they say to us: If you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to worry about.


48 posted on 06/20/2012 9:09:03 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

Holder retracted his claim that Bush AG Mukasey knew F&F.

Lying SOBastids!!!


49 posted on 06/20/2012 9:17:01 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

“...Lying SOBastids...”

Par for the course, brother.


50 posted on 06/20/2012 9:27:21 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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