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House moves toward contempt vote after Eric Holder balks on gun documents
Los Angeles Times ^ | 20 June, 2012 | Richard A. Serrano

Posted on 06/20/2012 6:22:41 AM PDT by marktwain

WASHINGTON -- Last-minute talks to stave off a House committee vote declaring Eric H. Holder Jr. in contempt of Congress broke down late Tuesday, when the attorney general failed to provide subpoenaed documents for the panel's inquiry into the flawed Fast and Furious gun-tracking operation run by the Justice Department's Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, or ATF.

Mr. Holder and Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, met for about 20 minutes in an extraordinary bargaining session in the House majority leader's Capitol office. They emerged with Mr. Issa saying the attorney general told him that the department "would not be producing" some 1,300 pages of documents the committee had subpoenaed.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2deadfeds; 300deadmexicans; atf; banglist; corruption; dea; democrats; dhs; doj; dojisajoke; fastandfurious; fbi; fraud; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; ice; murdergate; obama
A scandal involving hundreds of murders and numerous federal agencies gets little attention, while a completely fabricated tempest in a teapot involving a non-event of someone naming a known Valerie Plame is hyped to insane proportions. The MSM at work.
1 posted on 06/20/2012 6:22:50 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: MestaMachine

Gunwalker / Murdergate ping.


2 posted on 06/20/2012 6:23:28 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

I heard Congressman Walsh on WLS AM in Chicago this morning saying the vote is scheduled for 10:00 am DC time. That’s about 1/2 an hour from now.

At this point Issa has to call for the vote and find Holder in contempt. Anything less and he’s done.


3 posted on 06/20/2012 6:26:06 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: marktwain

——The MSM at work.-——

AFAIK, independents are unaware of the scope of MSM propaganda. How do we teach them?


4 posted on 06/20/2012 6:26:31 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: marktwain

It won’t happen.... The race card will be thrown and then it will end...


5 posted on 06/20/2012 6:27:43 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: baddog 219
It won’t happen.... The race card will be thrown and then it will end...

Why do you think so? What, at this point, would make Issa change his mind?

6 posted on 06/20/2012 6:32:57 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (TIN)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
AFAIK, independents are unaware of the scope of MSM propaganda. How do we teach them?

Good question.

Perhaps....

A. Make up a song about it and sing it on American Idol.

B. Print it on a T-shirt and wear it on Survivor.

C. Put it on Facebook.

D. Tweet it.

E. Put it on underwear and wear pants on the ground.

7 posted on 06/20/2012 6:33:08 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: marktwain

Get on with it!!

Issa is my new hero (along with that father who killed the pervert/ child molester).

Eric The Holder is despicable, a racist and deserves nothing less than to be tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail.

I hope oBama DOES keep him, it’ll be more fuel for our side.


8 posted on 06/20/2012 6:40:45 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (The Road to Ruin is Always Kept in Good Repair)
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To: InterceptPoint; baddog 219

I think if the race card hasn’t worked up to now with Issa, it won’t work at all.


9 posted on 06/20/2012 6:44:34 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: N. Theknow

Yeaaaahhhh....


10 posted on 06/20/2012 6:46:23 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: Lurker
C-SPAN 3 listing, it will cover live at 10:00am
11 posted on 06/20/2012 6:46:42 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: Lurker
At this point Issa has to call for the vote and find Holder in contempt.

But it won't happen. I predict there'll be yet another last-minute "agreement" that gives Holder more time to incrementally release documents, based on the promise that all will be released sometime in the future at a mutually agreed-upon time.

They'll all breathe a big sigh of relief and the games will go on.

12 posted on 06/20/2012 6:46:48 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: marktwain
From Stand With Arizona:

Big surprise (not). Eric Holder met with Darrell Issa and did NOT cough up the documents the House demanded from Holder's 'Fast and Furious' disaster. So the Contempt vote is ON for tomorrow. If Holder doesn't come clean by 10am it will occur - first in committee, then the full House, then to a Federal judge where the REAL trouble for Holder would begin. The big unknown is 'Mr. Softee' - House Speaker John Boehner, who until now has stymied a contempt move for fear of looking like the GOP was conducting a witchhunt against the first black Atty General. One would think all the dead bodies and lies would shake him out of that silliness. We will find out tomorrow. If no new documents come in, and the vote still doesn't happen, we will know why.

So what will it be, Weepy John?

13 posted on 06/20/2012 6:48:48 AM PDT by montag813 (Stop the Obama Amnesty. www.StandWithArizona.com)
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To: marktwain
From Stand With Arizona:

Big surprise (not). Eric Holder met with Darrell Issa and did NOT cough up the documents the House demanded from Holder's 'Fast and Furious' disaster. So the Contempt vote is ON for tomorrow. If Holder doesn't come clean by 10am it will occur - first in committee, then the full House, then to a Federal judge where the REAL trouble for Holder would begin. The big unknown is 'Mr. Softee' - House Speaker John Boehner, who until now has stymied a contempt move for fear of looking like the GOP was conducting a witchhunt against the first black Atty General. One would think all the dead bodies and lies would shake him out of that silliness. We will find out tomorrow. If no new documents come in, and the vote still doesn't happen, we will know why.

So what will it be, Weepy John?

14 posted on 06/20/2012 6:48:48 AM PDT by montag813 (Stop the Obama Amnesty. www.StandWithArizona.com)
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To: marktwain

” Committee member Trey Gowdy,R-S.C.,said the dispute comes down to receiving all the documents by 9:59 a.m. today,or else.”

Well passed time for the “or else” part.

Time to get out the tar and feathers.

Oh, I’m sorry...is tar racist?


15 posted on 06/20/2012 6:51:19 AM PDT by moovova
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To: marktwain
>>while a completely fabricated tempest in a teapot involving a non-event of someone naming a known Valerie Plame<<

Don't forget the ever important investigation into steroid use by Roger Clemmens.

I heard on the radio last evening that Eric Cantor (R) was pressuring Issa to end this investigation because it was a distraction during the campaign season.

I hope this is not true, but wouldn't put it past our weak knee leaders in the GOP.

16 posted on 06/20/2012 6:52:18 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: MrB
I think if the race card hasn’t worked up to now with Issa, it won’t work at all.

"Congressman Issa... what you are doing is RAYYYYY-CISSSST... repeat after me... RAYYYYYY-CISSST..."


17 posted on 06/20/2012 6:54:24 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: InterceptPoint

Issa has been up close and personal in the valley of death....he was an explosives expert in the army....defusing bombs.


18 posted on 06/20/2012 6:55:09 AM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: marktwain

Holder just requested executive privilege be invoked.


19 posted on 06/20/2012 6:59:13 AM PDT by ScoopAmma (We are led by the Resident -in Chief; aka part-time member of Webelo Troop 44)
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To: spokeshave

Holder is asking for executive priveledge.(sp)


20 posted on 06/20/2012 6:59:18 AM PDT by sissyjane
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To: marktwain

“balks”? lol


21 posted on 06/20/2012 6:59:40 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: marktwain
Live now on CSPAN-3
22 posted on 06/20/2012 7:00:34 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (TIN)
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To: sissyjane

President has approved it!


23 posted on 06/20/2012 7:01:20 AM PDT by sissyjane
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To: sissyjane
President has approved it!

I think Holder and Obama had no choice but to proceed down this path. It is a dangerous path for them and will force (fingers crossed) the MSM to finally pay attention to the issue. I have always thought that the only court that counts in F&F is the Court of Public Opinion and right now the great majority of that court has never even heard of F&F.

A gift to Romney. Will he accept it and act on it - that is the question.

24 posted on 06/20/2012 7:12:49 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (TIN)
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To: sissyjane

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!


25 posted on 06/20/2012 7:13:56 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: MrB

Because the race card has not been thrown on the table. When Holder says your doing this to me and my president because we’re black, this is hate filled republicans attacking a black president,and the media backing Holder and pointing the racist finger at anyone who questions the dear leader and his minions. Then the race card is in.


26 posted on 06/20/2012 7:17:02 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: ScoopAmma

Isn’t this a tacit admission that the executive branch created and ran this operation in direct refutiation of prior claims? Isn’t it enough to go forward with perjury charges?


27 posted on 06/20/2012 7:23:09 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Lurker

DO IT!!! Just freakin’ DO IT!!!! For ONCE I want to see the GOP STAND TALL and move forward with little or no concern about their damned jobs. Let the concern for our country and it’s people and our constitution be what they should be concerned about. HERE IS THEIR CHANCE!!!!
Dear God what has happened to good and decent people?
As for Boehner...I don’t even want to see his crying face out there. I think if it hadn’t been for him Issa would have served the contempt a LONG TIME AGO.


28 posted on 06/20/2012 8:18:28 AM PDT by cubreporter
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To: servantboy777

If that is the case then Eric Cantor is no longer respected in my book ... THAT’S what the GOP does...they work against each other privately. DISGUSTING doesn’t even begin to describe their weak kneed behaviors..


29 posted on 06/20/2012 8:21:06 AM PDT by cubreporter
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