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This Embarrasses You and I*: Grammar Gaffes Invade the Office in an Age of Informal[...]
WSJ ^ | June 19, 2012 | Sue Shellenbarger

Posted on 06/20/2012 6:30:54 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative

When Caren Berg told colleagues at a recent staff meeting, "There's new people you should meet," her boss Don Silver broke in, says Ms. Berg, a senior vice president at a Fort Lauderdale, Fla., marketing and crisis-communications company.

"I cringe every time I hear" people misuse "is" for "are," Mr. Silver says. The company's chief operations officer, Mr. Silver also hammers interns to stop peppering sentences with "like." For years, he imposed a 25-cent fine on new hires for each offense. "I am losing the battle," he says.

Managers are fighting an epidemic of grammar gaffes in the workplace. Many of them attribute slipping skills to the informality of email, texting and Twitter where slang and shortcuts are common. Such looseness with language can create bad impressions with clients, ruin marketing materials and cause communications errors, many managers say.

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Mr. Garner, the usage expert, requires all job applicants at his nine-employee firm—including people who just want to pack boxes—to pass spelling and grammar tests before he will hire them. And he requires employees to have at least two other people copy-edit and make corrections to every important email and letter that goes out.

"Twenty-five years ago it was impossible to put your hands on something that hadn't been professionally copy-edited," Mr. Garner says. "Today, it is actually hard to put your hands on something that has been professionally copy-edited."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
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Another mile marker on the highway of civilizational decline.
1 posted on 06/20/2012 6:30:58 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

“is dis dee ebony lounge?”


2 posted on 06/20/2012 6:32:53 AM PDT by brivette
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
Where's yer grammer?

My grammer's in the kitchen baking cookies.

3 posted on 06/20/2012 6:36:45 AM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

“..Slipping skills due to email, twitter, etc.”

The real culprit is the publik skool system where self esteem, political correctness and liberal brainwashing is more important than teaching grammar.


4 posted on 06/20/2012 6:36:46 AM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

People speak, like, really bad, you know.


5 posted on 06/20/2012 6:37:05 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

“..Slipping skills due to email, twitter, etc.”

The real culprit is the publik skool system where self esteem, political correctness and liberal brainwashing is more important than teaching grammar.


6 posted on 06/20/2012 6:37:05 AM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

“I am losing the battle,” he says

Haha, you is a looser!!!

(did that on purpose; it makes me cringe, too)


7 posted on 06/20/2012 6:37:22 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
Ain't that the truth.
8 posted on 06/20/2012 6:37:40 AM PDT by lysie
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
Managers are fighting an epidemic of grammar gaffes in the workplace. Many of them attribute slipping skills to the informality of email, texting and Twitter where slang and shortcuts are common. Such looseness with language can create bad impressions with clients, ruin marketing materials and cause communications errors, many managers say.

To a degree perhaps. But the big problem stems from our failure to properly educate.

9 posted on 06/20/2012 6:38:20 AM PDT by bcsco
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
Obama routinely uses the article "a" prior to a noun beginning with a vowel . . . this from a "Harvard Law School graduate (magna cum laude LOL!!!), "Editor" of the Harvard Law School Journal, and broadly touted "smartest man."

Show me the records. I don't for one minute believe that Obama earned any of his degrees; I believe he was given them.
10 posted on 06/20/2012 6:39:08 AM PDT by Sudetenland (Member of the BBB Club - Bye-Bye-Barry!!! President Barack "Down Low" Obama)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

Racis’!


11 posted on 06/20/2012 6:39:23 AM PDT by TigerClaws (He)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

And sooner or later Mr. Garner will be sued because he hasn’t established the job related link between grammar and spelling and packing boxes.


12 posted on 06/20/2012 6:39:33 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

“Anyways” instead of “Anyway” irritates me a great deal.


13 posted on 06/20/2012 6:43:49 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: lysie

Fo’shizzle


14 posted on 06/20/2012 6:45:09 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Reddy

Don’t you mean “... ARE more important...”


15 posted on 06/20/2012 6:45:56 AM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: AppyPappy

When I hear someone speaking and constantly sprinkling in the “like” word, I find myself not listening to what they are saying, but counting how many times they use “like”....a pet peeve of mine.


16 posted on 06/20/2012 6:46:42 AM PDT by kevslisababy
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

The under 30 workforce is particularly illiterate and lacking in communication skills. They cannot puncuate an email, draft a business letter, ask coherent questions, and use “like” and “you know” in every uttered sentence.

Stalin’s useful idiots.


17 posted on 06/20/2012 6:46:57 AM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe (I'm clinging to my God and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

My pet peeve is “yourself”

As in

“How are you doing?”

“Fine, and yourself?”

Argh!


18 posted on 06/20/2012 6:46:57 AM PDT by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
This Embarrasses You and I

Everyone knows it should be, "This embarrasses you and MYSELF". /s

19 posted on 06/20/2012 6:47:15 AM PDT by 1raider1
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To: Reddy

The real culprit is the publik skool system where self esteem, political correctness and liberal brainwashing is more important than teaching grammar.

The real culprit is the publik skool system where self esteem, political correctness and liberal brainwashing ARE more important than teaching grammar.


20 posted on 06/20/2012 6:48:07 AM PDT by KingLudd
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

Sometimes I read people spelling quiet as’ quite’.
Quite annoying really. The Brits accuse the Yanks of butchering the language. Quite bloody right ya blokes.


21 posted on 06/20/2012 6:48:34 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: AppyPappy
People speak, like, really bad, you know.

You forgot the "ambiguous interrogative inflection" at the end of your sentence?

22 posted on 06/20/2012 6:49:18 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: cripplecreek

you are “suppose to” not notice.
but in a “worse case” secenario, I “could care less.”


23 posted on 06/20/2012 6:49:54 AM PDT by getitright (If you call this HOPE, can we give despair a shot?)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

It’s expecially important that you and me use proper grammar ... irregardless of where we work.

/s


24 posted on 06/20/2012 6:50:16 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: cripplecreek

How about “irregardless”...

I know, I know... so 80’s.


25 posted on 06/20/2012 6:51:40 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: AppyPappy
People speak, like, really bad, you know.

I mean ... y'know .... you're right!

26 posted on 06/20/2012 6:52:27 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: al_c

...irregardless of whether the young employees had been properly orientated...


27 posted on 06/20/2012 6:52:59 AM PDT by getitright (If you call this HOPE, can we give despair a shot?)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

“And he requires employees to have at least two other people copy-edit and make corrections to every important email and letter that goes out. “

You never begin a sentence with “And”. It’s a rule.


28 posted on 06/20/2012 6:53:42 AM PDT by misanthrope ("...Everybody look what's goin' down.")
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

What r u talking about?


29 posted on 06/20/2012 6:54:21 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

It might be irreversible. I wrote on another thread yesterday that I see or hear eighth-grade spelling or usage errors every single day on network news. It doesn’t matter what network or what subject. I’m not talking about complicated science terms or words — my example yesterday was the incorrect “Lamier” instead of “Larimer” county, site of the Colorado wildfires. What’s worse, some stories have it right and some have it wrong, and it’s been that way for a WEEK. So not only do they make the mistakes, nobody with a six-year-old’s reading and reasoning ability is able to do anything about it.


30 posted on 06/20/2012 6:55:01 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Reddy
Less v. Fewer.

No one seems to remember the difference.

I doubt that many English teachers know.

31 posted on 06/20/2012 6:55:38 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Typed using <FONT STYLE=SARCASM> unless otherwise noted)
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To: cripplecreek

Hello, cc.


32 posted on 06/20/2012 6:55:38 AM PDT by lysie
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To: F15Eagle

—Haha, you is a looser!!!—

I think you mean “you be loosr.”


33 posted on 06/20/2012 6:55:57 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

A particularly notable one that’s showed up in the last dozen years or so is by juiceboxers, using the phrase “I mean” to start every sentence.


34 posted on 06/20/2012 6:56:37 AM PDT by Carl LaFong (Experts say experts should be ignored.)
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To: kevslisababy

—When I hear someone speaking and constantly sprinkling in the “like” word, I find myself not listening to what they are saying, but counting how many times they use “like”....a pet peeve of mine.—

Same here. But a long time annoyance of mine is “you know”. And “so he goes...then I go...”.


35 posted on 06/20/2012 6:57:16 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

Run man, it da po-po man, it da po-po!


36 posted on 06/20/2012 6:57:59 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (not voting for the lesser of two evils)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

One of the biggest surprises of my life came when I started getting email from old high school buddies. (We all graduated in the ‘60’s.)When I saw some of the spelling and grammar I was floored. I still don’t see how some of them got through HS.


37 posted on 06/20/2012 6:58:17 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks like Right-Wing extremism.)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

This is all egotism. These people don’t cringe they revel they get to feel superior. Meanwhile they’ve forgotten the point of language is to communicate, if people hear what you said and understand it the way you intended you said it right enough. Language evolves, suck it up.


38 posted on 06/20/2012 6:58:58 AM PDT by discostu (Listen, do you smell something?)
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To: al_c

Video: http://www.wimp.com/speaktypography/

Transcript:
In case you hadn’t noticed,
it has somehow become uncool to sound like you know what you’re talking about?
Or believe strongly in what you’re, like, saying?

Invisible question marks and parenthetical (you know?)’s- and (you know what I’m saying)’s
have been attaching themselves to the ends of our sentences?

Even when those sentences aren’t, like, questions? You know?

Declarative sentences, so-called
because they used to, like, DECLARE things to be true,
okay,
as opposed to other things that are, like, totally, you know, not (?)
have been infected by a totally hip and tragically cool interrogative tone?

As if I’m saying, don’t think I’m a nerd just ‘cuz I’ve, like, noticed this, okay??
I have nothing personally invested in my own opinions??
I’m just, like, inviting you to join me on the bandwagon of my own uncertainty?

What has happened to our conviction?
Where are the limbs out on which we once walked?
Have they been, like, chopped down
with the rest of the rain forest? You know?
Or do we have, like, nothin’ to say?

Has society become so, like, totally, like, whatever!
That we’ve become the most aggressively inarticulate culture
to come along since . . .you know, a long, long time ago!

So I entreat you, I implore you, I exhort you:
To speak with conviction.

To say what you believe in a manner that bespeaks the determination with which you believe it.
Because contrary to the wisdom of the bumper sticker,
it is not enough these days to simply
QUESTION AUTHORITY.
You have to speak with it, too.
(Taylor Mali)


39 posted on 06/20/2012 6:59:18 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: getitright

How about “mute point” instead of “moot point”. I see it in print and hear it as well.


40 posted on 06/20/2012 6:59:30 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cripplecreek

“Irregardless” and “I could care less” drive me slightly insane.


41 posted on 06/20/2012 7:00:06 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: cuban leaf

lol


42 posted on 06/20/2012 7:01:04 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

I know, right?


43 posted on 06/20/2012 7:03:59 AM PDT by AT7Saluki (No cejar, no ceder)
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To: Carl LaFong

That is driving me CRAZY, especially when it’s literally the first thing out of somebody’s mouth. “Our next guest is Joe Intellectual of the Blunge Institute. Joe, how does the vote in Mumbostan affect the Presidential race?” “Well, I mean...”

I am stunned by the widespread usage of this verbal tic, which seems to me to have become ubiquitous virtually overnight, across all classes, vocations, and even countries and races. One of Whitney Houston’s songwriters, grasping for words, stammered four “I mean”s in a row, sounding like somebody trying to start a car on a cold morning. Apparently it had such an effect that Piers Morgan started doing it in the same interview.


44 posted on 06/20/2012 7:04:19 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: cuban leaf
a long time annoyance of mine is “you know”. And “so he goes...then I go...”.

That will get them a "college boy, eh?" butt-kicking these days. Now it's "So she was like, ..., and I was like, yeah, exactly..."

45 posted on 06/20/2012 7:07:28 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

Commentators who use less and fewer interchangeably elicit my disdain. “Less voters turned out for the election”, is cause to wonder if the voters were cut off at the knees or the waist.


46 posted on 06/20/2012 7:08:06 AM PDT by davius (You can roll manure in powdered sugar but that don't make it a jelly doughnut.)
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To: jiggyboy

I can always tell when Hillary C.is about to unleash a whopper when she starts a sentence with, “Well, you know...”.


47 posted on 06/20/2012 7:08:32 AM PDT by 1raider1
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To: cuban leaf
“Exactly!” .......... I am not hearing THAT annoying retort so much anymore but “back in the day”......... snort)))))))))):)
48 posted on 06/20/2012 7:09:57 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

Good article.

As someone who does freelance copyediting work on the side, I sees terribel grammer and speling all the time.


49 posted on 06/20/2012 7:12:05 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (not voting for the lesser of two evils)
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To: Ditter

Exactly! *SMIRK*


50 posted on 06/20/2012 7:12:40 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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