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Obama grants Holder request on 'Furious' documents as contempt vote looms (Executive Privilege)
FoxNews ^ | June 20, 2012

Posted on 06/20/2012 7:37:10 AM PDT by stevie_d_64

President Obama has granted an 11th-hour request by Attorney General Eric Holder to exert executive privilege over Fast and Furious documents, a last-minute maneuver that appears unlikely to head off a contempt vote against Holder by Republicans in the House.

The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee is expected to forge ahead Wednesday morning with its meeting on the contempt resolution anyway.

If the vote proceeds, Republicans have more than enough votes on committee to pass the resolution. However, Holder would not be considered held in contempt of Congress unless and until the full House approves the measure.

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1 posted on 06/20/2012 7:37:15 AM PDT by stevie_d_64
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To: stevie_d_64

Click on link here:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/06/20/house-republicans-tee-up-imminent-contempt-vote-against-holder/

to vote in poll.

So far: 94.91% favor Full Steam Ahead on Contempt proceedings all the way to the House floor.


2 posted on 06/20/2012 7:39:17 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (The Road to Ruin is Always Kept in Good Repair)
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To: stevie_d_64

so does executive privilege tell us Obama was involved with fast and furious all along


3 posted on 06/20/2012 7:40:20 AM PDT by molson209
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To: stevie_d_64

Oh, big surprise...
Holder hiding behind Obammmy’s skirts...
Most transparent admin evah!


4 posted on 06/20/2012 7:40:42 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: stevie_d_64

Impeach the President and Holder. If not, America is done. This is now past the joke our Federal Government is. America, it is time to kick all these useless bast@@@@ out on their collective butts.


5 posted on 06/20/2012 7:41:10 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: stevie_d_64

IMPEACH THEM BOTH!


6 posted on 06/20/2012 7:42:15 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: stevie_d_64

Issa needs to immediately supoena(?) phone records for the last 72 hours from Obama, Axelrod, Jarrett and Holder. And I do mean now!


7 posted on 06/20/2012 7:44:16 AM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: stevie_d_64

This President and the people he has surrounded himself with are a bunch of LIARS and they certainly don’t believe in the Constitution!! AND Obama was a constitutional professor...WHAT a CROCK OF BS! Even if he’s elected again, he will have to resign just like Nixon during his next term! The TRUTH always comes out. NOW we just need the REPUBLICANS and some DEMS to stand up for our Constitution regardless of the skin color of the president and attorney general. That’s what’s keeping all this from going full steam ahead...AND EVERYONE knows it!


8 posted on 06/20/2012 7:45:16 AM PDT by Cricket24 (Telling the truth is not attacking someone!)
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To: Logical me

Imprison them.


9 posted on 06/20/2012 7:45:44 AM PDT by crosshairs
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To: molson209; Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; ...

“so does executive privilege tell us Obama was involved with fast and furious all along”

It most certainly does.

Poll link here ping.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2897336/posts


10 posted on 06/20/2012 7:47:12 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Wiser now

Yes...they do need those records NOW! Do they have the guts to do it??? I certainly hope so. Our country’s future is depending on this very moment because if Obama and his ilk can get away with this....they can do pretty much anything they want!


11 posted on 06/20/2012 7:47:50 AM PDT by Cricket24 (Telling the truth is not attacking someone!)
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To: molson209
so does executive privilege tell us Obama was involved with fast and furious all along

Yes. But we knew that already.

The latest move by obama to reinforce his message to the lowly peons that he is KNG!

12 posted on 06/20/2012 7:50:50 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: molson209

I think you’re right with your statement and was wondering if Fast and Furious really wasn’t about tracking drug lords but rather a “deal” between the drug lords to use the guns for a short period of time, thus legitimizing that theory, and then with directions on how to get them to the Muslim Brotherhood along with a substantial payoff to these same drug lords. I think Obama and Holder can hear the barking dog.


13 posted on 06/20/2012 7:55:00 AM PDT by sanjuanbob (Festina Lente)
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To: stevie_d_64

“Executive Priviledge” proves the lie that Obama did not know about F&F.

Can’t assert a priviledge over something you didn’t autthorize.


14 posted on 06/20/2012 7:57:02 AM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: molson209
Yep. Obama masterminded the plot to flood Mexico with guns.. Remember when he said "90% of Mexican guns come from the United States"? Well, it was odd to say at the time because we all knew it wasn't true but he was working on making that statistic come true!!! It was a scheme to rally the American people into accepting harsh gun restrictions in the U.S.

I would say this is worse than Watergate, but unlike the Watergate hearings which were shown all day on the major networks, looks like it's regular programming on all the networks!

15 posted on 06/20/2012 7:57:07 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: molson209

“so does executive privilege tell us Obama was involved with fast and furious all along’

Yes and this was their plan all along. Obama told Holder, “Stonewall. If the Pubbies actually get the balls to vote contempt, I’ll CYA with EP. No prob. We are safe. We’ll continue to work on gun control other ways.”


16 posted on 06/20/2012 8:00:15 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (No matter how cynical you get, it's never enough to keep up.)
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To: lonevoice

ping


17 posted on 06/20/2012 8:01:15 AM PDT by Pride in the USA
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

... and unlike 1973, Big Leftist Media doesn’t have a monopoly on the message anymore

39 years later, get ready for “The Democrats’ Watergate”!!


18 posted on 06/20/2012 8:02:14 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: reagandemocrat

Your lack of trust in the most transparent and ethical administration ever is disturbing.


19 posted on 06/20/2012 8:03:13 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: stevie_d_64

If I understand correctly, the only way that Obama could claim it’s Ex.P. is if he is directly involved in, and/or has direct knowledge of, the documents subpoenaed.

That’s really big.

It’s long past time for a special prosecutor and then a Grand Jury.


20 posted on 06/20/2012 8:03:31 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: Wiser now
Issa needs to immediately supoena(?) phone records for the last 72 hours from Obama, Axelrod, Jarrett and Holder. And I do mean now!

It's going to take more than a nice, polite subpoena, which will just signal this group of thugs to start shredding.

The House needs to get a court order from a magistrate to immediately, forcefully execute a search warrant on every square inch of office space controlled by this Marxist.

21 posted on 06/20/2012 8:04:17 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: stevie_d_64

How Nixonian of him.


22 posted on 06/20/2012 8:08:26 AM PDT by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: Wiser now

Yes he does.


23 posted on 06/20/2012 8:09:15 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: TurboZamboni

I may go willingly to the re-education camp—do they serve beer?


24 posted on 06/20/2012 8:10:23 AM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: stevie_d_64
Once invoked, a presumption of privilege is established, requiring the Prosecutor to make a "sufficient showing" that the "Presidential material" is "essential to the justice of the case."
25 posted on 06/20/2012 8:10:53 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: stevie_d_64

Interesting.

We will see how this plays out, but that is a rather curious tactic. It implies there is something damaging to hide.


26 posted on 06/20/2012 8:13:31 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Noamie
If I understand correctly, the only way that Obama could claim it’s Ex.P. is if he is directly involved in, and/or has direct knowledge of, the documents subpoenaed. That’s really big. It’s long past time for a special prosecutor and then a Grand Jury.

Levin is right Barack Millhouse Obama.

Is this the end game to save their hides this November, follow me...

Biden resigns Hilda takes his slot, Barack resigns, she runs...

Will the DNC money changers demand it, because he has now become what they detest, i.e. Nixon????

27 posted on 06/20/2012 8:14:30 AM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: Noamie
If I understand correctly, the only way that Obama could claim it’s Ex.P. is if he is directly involved in, and/or has direct knowledge of, the documents subpoenaed. That’s really big. It’s long past time for a special prosecutor and then a Grand Jury.

Levin is right Barack Millhouse Obama.

Is this the end game to save their hides this November, follow me...

Biden resigns Hilda takes his slot, Barack resigns, she runs...

Will the DNC money changers demand it, because he has now become what they detest, i.e. Nixon????

28 posted on 06/20/2012 8:14:51 AM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: Noamie
Once invoked, a presumption of privilege is established, requiring the Prosecutor to make a "sufficient showing" that the "Presidential material" is "essential to the justice of the case."
29 posted on 06/20/2012 8:16:10 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: stevie_d_64

Wow, Bobo goofed and took the bait. Who’da thunk it.


30 posted on 06/20/2012 8:16:50 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: stevie_d_64

I just wrote my Congressman, demanding that he immediately co-sponsor articles of Impeachment against these punk bastards.

I like my Congressman, as a person and as a Representative, and have been a reliable donor to his campaigns for many years; but this is the last straw. If they don’t impeach this Criminal 0bama Administration, there is no reason to keep any of them, even the good ones. Not another penny in donations until they do their Constitutional Duty.

Of course I realize that the weasels in Reid’s Senate will not find the punk Guilty, but at least the House will have done its duty.


31 posted on 06/20/2012 8:17:24 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: stevie_d_64

There really must be something there. Nixonesque.


32 posted on 06/20/2012 8:17:39 AM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: stevie_d_64

So easy! When you have total contempt for the law and the Constitution and are prepared to lie nonstop, and your opponents are the exact opposite, it is easy to win - for a while. Then the roof will fall in!


33 posted on 06/20/2012 8:17:49 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: reagandemocrat

warm Old Milwaukee.

free smokes if you vote rat,too.


34 posted on 06/20/2012 8:18:00 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: molson209

so does executive privilege tell us Obama was involved with fast and furious all along
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According to Judge Napolitano, who was on FOX a while ago,.......yes.


35 posted on 06/20/2012 8:18:41 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Wings cannot be redistributed, they can only be broken. ~ Oleg Atbashian (People's Cube))
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To: stevie_d_64

Nixon Nixon Nixon Nixon Nixon Nixon Nixon Nixon Nixon Nixon Nixon Nixon

Where’s the Washington Post? AWOL

The ‘doting court eunuchs’ of the MSM fail to notice...


36 posted on 06/20/2012 8:22:52 AM PDT by GOPJ (The 'doting court eunuchs' of the MSM fail to notice...)
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To: Bon of Babble

It doesn’t matter what Fox says or do the liberals will never trust Fox, they have been brain washed to believe fox is the only biased news outlet. Calling it Faux news and F-News. It won’t matter if 110% say Obama is a liar and a crook if it is Fox news there is no news in the mind of Liberals.


37 posted on 06/20/2012 8:24:54 AM PDT by crazydad
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To: stevie_d_64

I’m watching the committee meeting right now. The Democrats are saying their usual garbage like “I’ve never seen anything like this” etc. regarding the dust up with Holder. But they are not being as shrill as they can be. So far anyway. I’ve seen a lot of these types of meetings and so far today it appears that the Democrats are being very careful. Something is very wrong here and it appears to me that the Republicans have a smoking gun (no pun intended)and the Democrats know they do. Even Kucinich is being kind of meek and mild.

Romney is a fool if he does not scream to the high heavens about this. Blood is in the water. A lot of blood.

As far as Issa goes I am very impressed with the way he is handling this. Calm and deliberate.


38 posted on 06/20/2012 8:25:01 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: stevie_d_64

Rush should be interesting this morning.


39 posted on 06/20/2012 8:25:10 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: GOPJ
Following the Guidelines on the tapes on Nixon case.

Obama goose is cooked.

He is desperate

40 posted on 06/20/2012 8:26:45 AM PDT by scooby321 (h tones)
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To: Bon of Babble

95.01% Full Steam Ahead now


41 posted on 06/20/2012 8:27:24 AM PDT by digital-olive
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To: sanjuanbob
"I think you’re right with your statement and was wondering if Fast and Furious really wasn’t about tracking drug lords but rather a “deal” between the drug lords to use the guns for a short period of time, thus legitimizing that theory, and then with directions on how to get them to the Muslim Brotherhood along with a substantial payoff to these same drug lords."

That is indeed interesting, but I believe it's much more that those records will show, and prove that F&F was in collaboration with well-known anti-2A groups; and by putting the hidden info together with WH visit records, it would show a consistent pattern of Bobo authorizing the illegal F&F gun smuggling for the nefarious purpose of ending 2A.

This is the reason they will go to such great lengths to avoid releasing the records to Rep. Issa -- because anti-2A polls miserably among everyone -- gun ranges are all the rage in hopelessly libtard places like Seattle, Portland, Silicon Valley (Zuckerberg is a hunter! Cazart!), Austin, you name it.

Bobo promulgated F&F at Soros et al bidding, nothing more, nothing less.

A diligent reporter would work this from the anti-2A foundations back to those WH visit records.

42 posted on 06/20/2012 8:28:15 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: crazydad
It isn't just Faux News..

Even the Liberal WaPo is on it, and most of their commentators are calling for impeachment.

Washington Post Article on Executive Privelege

43 posted on 06/20/2012 8:32:51 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: molson209
"so does executive privilege tell us Obama was involved with fast and furious all along[?]"

Definitely. The privilege can only be claimed for communications involving POTUS himself. Now the infection has gone all the way to the Oval Office itself. There was a SCOTS case during Watergate where SCOTUS held the privilege does not apply to allegedly criminal deliberations. That's how the WH tapes got revealed.

As of now, this has gone from an irritant to a really serious threat to the Illegal. It's clear to any reasonable person who's studied F&F that it was a murder conspiracy in service of gun grabbing from the get go. The whole idea was to walk the guns across the border, have them used to produce mass murder, and use that mayhem to argue for gun grabbing in violation of the 2d Amendment. This executive privilege claim proves the Illegal was up to his eyeballs in the whole murder conspiracy. The conspiracy would have failed without the murders; thus the Illegal, Holder, and all their accomplices knowingly intended and desired the murders, making them all legally MASS MURDERERS.

44 posted on 06/20/2012 8:35:44 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: reagandemocrat; xzins
“Executive Priviledge” proves the lie that Obama did not know about F&F. Can’t assert a priviledge over something you didn’t autthorize.

You are absolutely right. That was Nixon's mistake. He invoked it over the Watergate matter which suggested that he was involved in it from the beginning and that he had authorized the break in.

Obviously the documents requested will point the smoking gun in Obama's direction.

The question of the hour is whether or not the Congress has the guts to do anything about this? I doubt it. Obama will get away with it. The MSM, instead of pushing the investigation as they did in Watergate, will join with Obama in his attempts to cover it up.

The shredders are working overtime as we type.

45 posted on 06/20/2012 8:36:19 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Virgil Goode! Because everyone else is Bad!)
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To: stevie_d_64

Has Obama shown is pathetic face this morning?


46 posted on 06/20/2012 8:37:45 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter (Ia)
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To: stevie_d_64

if obummer claims exec privy then he must be in on it - exec privy only applies if the prez is personally involved


47 posted on 06/20/2012 8:39:37 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (liberalism is the assault on the natural human condition)
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To: crazydad

“....It doesn’t matter what Fox says or do the liberals will never trust Fox, they have been brain washed to believe fox is the only biased news outlet. Calling it Faux news and F-News. It won’t matter if 110% say Obama is a liar and a crook if it is Fox news there is no news in the mind of Liberals....”

Ahh, yes! You are so right. Liberalism is such a chronic, debilitating mental disease. Their brains just rot out. They eventually become just like zombies. Sad. Shoulda kept em all locked up in the mental wards.


48 posted on 06/20/2012 8:42:19 AM PDT by lgjhn23
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To: lgjhn23

Geez... Haven’t any of you read the Wisconsin Dem playbook?

They will vote for contempt charges. Then the entire Democrat side of the House will leave Washington so there cannot be a vote.

They will change the narrative, blame Republicans and the MSM will side with the RATS.


49 posted on 06/20/2012 8:46:31 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (ABO 2012)
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To: StAnDeliver

Soetoro (or whatever his real name is) to Sarah Brady: “we are working on gun control under the radar.” http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2707696/posts


50 posted on 06/20/2012 8:47:39 AM PDT by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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