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Pizza chains fight plan to list calories on menus
bangordailynews.com ^ | June 20,2012 | Dina ElBoghdady

Posted on 06/20/2012 9:09:19 AM PDT by Hojczyk

A Big Mac is a Big Mac.

But a pizza? There are 34 million ways to customize it, depending on toppings and crust and size, according to the number-crunchers at Domino’s.

That’s the message that some of the nation’s largest pizza chains want to impress upon Capitol Hill lawmakers Wednesday as they push for changes to a proposed menu labeling plan that would force chain restaurants and other food outlets to post the calorie counts of the foods they’re selling.

A fledgling coalition of pizza chains — including Domino’s, Papa John’s, Little Caesars, Godfather’s Pizza and Pizza Hut — argues that the government’s plan forces store owners to pay for in-store menu boards that most of their customers don’t see before ordering. The American Pizza Community, as the coalition is called, says 90 percent of their orders are placed online and over the phone.

Then there’s the problem of squeezing all the potential offerings onto one menu board.

“A light bulb goes on when people hear about all the possible combinations for pizza,” said Lynn Liddle, a Domino’s executive and chair of the coalition. “They start to realize how difficult it would be to take a one-size-fits-all approach.”

Congress required menu labeling as part of the health-care reform law enacted in 2010, and the FDA has been working on the details ever since. The goal is to combat obesity by helping consumers make informed choices when they eat out, especially now that a third of the calories Americans consume come from foods prepared outside the home. Many studies show that calorie intake is higher when people dine out.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: pizza

1 posted on 06/20/2012 9:09:27 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

This will raise the cost of eating out..who cares how may calories...this will

New York City, which adopted menu labeling in 2008, did its own study of purchases at about 170 of the city’s top fast food chains and found that one in six customers used the calorie information. Those who did bought about 100 fewer calories than customers who did not see or use it.


2 posted on 06/20/2012 9:12:41 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

You don’t need public trough feeding nanny staters to tell you this.

Pizza is high calorie and no one in his right mind wants to know the calorie count. You know it is high and either you burn it off (exercise) or eat less of other things.


3 posted on 06/20/2012 9:19:59 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: Hojczyk

Doesn’t seem that hard. Just itemize it and make a table.
Crust size, Sauce, Cheese, and each ingredient.

For those who are interested, they can do some math. Since very few customers actually use this data, this is more of a Gov’t requirement than anything else. Just do like McDonalds and make a table and put it on the back of the placemat or menu.


4 posted on 06/20/2012 9:21:48 AM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: dennisw

“Pizza is high calorie and no one in his right mind wants to know the calorie count. You know it is high and either you burn it off (exercise) or eat less of other things.”

Actually, I do. I no longer eat half a pizza at a sitting. One or two slices at most. There’s a lot of places that provide calorie counts for their foods. All things being equal (pizza never is tho) I would favor the pizza vendors with calorie information.


5 posted on 06/20/2012 9:35:10 AM PDT by Smedley (It's a sad day for American capitalism when a man can't fly a midget on a kite over Central Park)
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To: Hojczyk

How about a generic warning label that states ‘eating too much pizza can make you fat’.

The wheels are falling off our country and we are worried about this? Please...


6 posted on 06/20/2012 9:44:51 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Smedley
One or two slices at most.

Reminds me of the old joke...

Guy goes into a pizza parlor and orders a large pie with everything. The proprietor asks him if he wants the pie cut into eight or sixteen slices. The guy responds, better make it eight, I don't think I can eat sixteen slices.

7 posted on 06/20/2012 9:49:37 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: IYAS9YAS

Like a friend of mine who cuts a cake in half and eats the half at a sitting. No wonder he’s 350 lbs


8 posted on 06/20/2012 9:52:02 AM PDT by Smedley (It's a sad day for American capitalism when a man can't fly a midget on a kite over Central Park)
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To: Hojczyk

Gosh. Wouldn’t it be simple for a Calorie totalizer to be added to an on line order form?

Why, any mom and pop pizza parlor should be required to instal a Calorie Kiosk™ (at their own expense, of course!) in their restaurant to provide walk-in customers the same data their rich computer owning customers get. To deny the poor would be racist, wouldn’t it?

Call in orders? The same register that gives the total cost could easily give the total Calories, it should be a felony to not tell the customer before the order is placed!

If it keeps just one child from becoming obese, it will all be worth it...


9 posted on 06/20/2012 9:53:20 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1247 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama is not a Big Brother [he's a Big Sissy...])
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To: IYAS9YAS

The Dalai Lama walks into a pizza parlor and says, “Can you make me ONE with everything?”


10 posted on 06/20/2012 9:59:22 AM PDT by HonkyTonkMan
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To: null and void

Calorie totalizer - great idea! Even better would be to have the customer enter their height, weight, sex and age whereupon a custom menu of what they are allowed to consume is presented. Default would be a cup of water and a toothpick.


11 posted on 06/20/2012 10:03:54 AM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: Hojczyk

This is a joke.

I was a Pizza Hut cook many years ago. In theory, we were supposed to weigh the toppings (or optionally count the pepperoni). In reality, when it was busy, we just put the toppings on.

So, yeah, the oil (pan pizza), dough and sauce will be pretty uniform (one ladle for small, two for medium, three for large), but the cheese, meats and veggies? Not so much.


12 posted on 06/20/2012 10:03:54 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("You forget, it isn't who you claim, but instead, who claims you. We don't claim you!")
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To: Hojczyk

Eating too much pizza will make you fat. Story at 11.

Good grief. They need to put labels on gay dudes butts then. “Sticking someothing in here is very bad for you.”

Certainly worse for you than a large pizza with extra cheese.


13 posted on 06/20/2012 10:06:04 AM PDT by strider44
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To: USMCPOP

Add race and political affiliation, and I think we got a winnah!


14 posted on 06/20/2012 10:06:38 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1247 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama is not a Big Brother [he's a Big Sissy...])
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To: null and void
Call in orders? The same register that gives the total cost could easily give the total Calories, it should be a felony to not tell the customer before the order is placed!

Sure, why not? Guy taking the order would just say, "Your total comes to $18.95 and 3462 calories. Have a great day." Who wouldn't want to hear that? Then, they could do one of those promotional things where if they forget to tell you, you get a free order of bread sticks or soda or something.

15 posted on 06/20/2012 10:11:20 AM PDT by Hoffer Rand (There ARE two Americas: "God's children" and the tax payers)
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To: Hoffer Rand

Hmmmm. Not as totalitarian as making Failure to Disclose Caloric Content a felony, but we can always work up to felony later...


16 posted on 06/20/2012 10:16:00 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1247 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama is not a Big Brother [he's a Big Sissy...])
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To: Hojczyk

There is no reason at all they can’t post the calories of a plain cheese pizza (in the different sizes and then with thin and regular crust) and then show how much calories are in a layer of double cheese on the aforementioned. Once they do that, they could easily list approximations for the toppings...it wouldn’t be THAT hard. Sheesh...you’d think they were trying to map the human genome they way they talk.


17 posted on 06/20/2012 10:23:31 AM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: IYAS9YAS

he he...the guy was definitely an Obama voter.


18 posted on 06/20/2012 10:25:05 AM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Hodar
Doesn’t seem that hard. Just itemize it and make a table. Crust size, Sauce, Cheese, and each ingredient.

Yes, I don'tt know why they say this is so difficult.

19 posted on 06/20/2012 10:31:35 AM PDT by trailhkr1 (All you need to know about Zimmerman, innocent = riots, manslaughter = riots, guilty = riots)
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To: strider44

“Abandon Hope, All Ye Who Enter Here.”


20 posted on 06/20/2012 10:41:10 AM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: Hojczyk

Chipolte already has calorie counts on the menu boards for each item you can select. It is a range since everything is hand assembled and thus allowing for variations in the actual amount in a scoop of an item.

Pizza should be just as easy...


21 posted on 06/20/2012 10:43:16 AM PDT by ace2u_in_MD (You missed something...)
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To: null and void

We could have a task force. Calorie Count Cops. They could issue tickets. Think of the revenue that could be generated for cash-strapped cities and states. They could put pictures of fat people on pizza boxes, like the missing kids on milk containers and Surgeon General warnings on cigarettes. And pizza patrons would have to sign a waiver that they read the full calorie count disclosure statement as required by law before purchasing their pizza. The restaurant would have to file those signed statements with the task force or face felony charges. Just think of the jobs we’ll be creating to manage this new program. Congress should hire us. We’re geniuses!


22 posted on 06/20/2012 10:46:57 AM PDT by Hoffer Rand (There ARE two Americas: "God's children" and the tax payers)
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To: Hojczyk

The same government with a budget $1.5 trillion per year in deficit, wants to count the calories in pizzas.

Government at all levels has far too much money, giving them resources to delve into too many topics, and power to do so.


23 posted on 06/20/2012 10:49:43 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Smedley

“All things being equal (pizza never is tho) I would favor the pizza vendors with calorie information.”

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Yes. That’s the way it is SUPPOSED to work in a free economy.

Businesses try to please their customers, and customers choose where to spend their money based on those efforts.

No government intervention/coercion necessary or wanted.

See:

- Mandated bans os smoking in PRIVATELYowned venues.
- Government limits on drink and food portion sizes.
- Etc...


24 posted on 06/20/2012 10:55:02 AM PDT by EyeGuy (Armed, judgmental, fiscally responsible heterosexual.)
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To: Hojczyk

Has anybody in modern history ever waddled into a fast food or pizza joint and said “Heck, that’s a lot of calories, I’ll pass”?


25 posted on 06/20/2012 11:00:32 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Hoffer Rand
Congress should hire us. We’re geniuses!

Maybe they should. Maybe we are.

Apparently there are FReepers, some on this very thread, who think that having The Federal Government tell Mom'n'Pop Corner Pizza Parlor what they MUST put on their menu is a swell idea.

*sigh*

26 posted on 06/20/2012 11:04:03 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1247 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama is not a Big Brother [he's a Big Sissy...])
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To: Hojczyk

The federal government has no authority to do this anyhow.


27 posted on 06/20/2012 11:06:27 AM PDT by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: Wolfie
Has anybody in modern history ever waddled into a fast food or pizza joint and said “Heck, that’s a lot of calories, I’ll pass”?

No, nor in all of recorded history.

OTOH, there are any number of waddling congress critters who are more than willing to tell the rest of us that it is and that we shall pass.

And even, shamefully enough, some FReepers who seem to be on the same cattle-car train.

28 posted on 06/20/2012 11:08:35 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1247 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama is not a Big Brother [he's a Big Sissy...])
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To: B Knotts
The federal government has no authority to do this anyhow.

Sure they do.

29 posted on 06/20/2012 11:09:55 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1247 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama is not a Big Brother [he's a Big Sissy...])
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To: B Knotts

“The federal government has no authority to do this anyhow.”

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I believe that argument lost its meaning, well over 100 years ago, and in ways much more damaging than those revolving around self-important, coercive, condescending Food Commissars.


30 posted on 06/20/2012 11:11:46 AM PDT by EyeGuy (Armed, judgmental, fiscally responsible heterosexual.)
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To: Paved Paradise; IYAS9YAS

Nope. It’s an old Yogi Berra tale. Originally it was 6 vs 8 slices.


31 posted on 06/20/2012 11:11:49 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1247 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama is not a Big Brother [he's a Big Sissy...])
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To: null and void

This regulation is part of Obamacare, which is unconstitutional to begin with.

Furthermore, these restaurants are serving customers in a physical location where the food is made. There is no legitimate “commerce clause” authority.

Finally, the Founding Fathers could never have imagined that the federal government they designed would ever be regulating menus at restaurants. Such a monstrosity was never intended.


32 posted on 06/20/2012 11:30:42 AM PDT by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: EyeGuy

It may have. But now is the time to reclaim its validity. We have to keep arguing it, until it is recognized by the courts.


33 posted on 06/20/2012 11:33:29 AM PDT by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: Hojczyk
Dear Nanny Staters:

MIND YOUR OWN F'ING BUSINESS!!!!

THANK YOU

ExCTC

34 posted on 06/20/2012 11:34:44 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (If we stay home in November '12, don't blame 0 for tearing up the CONSTITUTION!!)
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To: Hojczyk

Government meddling in the private sector taken to moronic new lows.

Isn’t there anything - anytbing at all - into which these noisome busybodies won’t stick their irritating noses?


35 posted on 06/20/2012 11:43:42 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: B Knotts
Ah, such naïveté is refreshing.

This regulation is part of Obamacare, which is unconstitutional to begin with.

Says who? The Supremes haven't. Ruth Buzzy Ginsberg certainly had quite the smirk on her sour puss when talking about it last week.

Furthermore, these restaurants are serving customers in a physical location where the food is made. There is no legitimate “commerce clause” authority.

Tell that to Roscoe Filburn. Come to think of it the case Mom'n'Pop Corner Pizza Parlor has is even weaker than Roscoe's. Did any ingredient of their pizzas ever cross a state line? Were the boxes made from in-state grown trees pulped and process purely within the state lines? Did the cola syrup cross state lines? Was any of the diesel used to transport the tomatoes refined in another state?

Finally, the Founding Fathers could never have imagined that the federal government they designed would ever be regulating menus at restaurants. Such a monstrosity was never intended.

Yeah, that'll work.

36 posted on 06/20/2012 11:47:08 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1247 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama is not a Big Brother [he's a Big Sissy...])
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To: Jack Hammer
Isn’t there anything - anything at all - into which these noisome busybodies won’t stick their irritating noses?

Why, yes, yes there is.

Their own business.

37 posted on 06/20/2012 11:49:28 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1247 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama is not a Big Brother [he's a Big Sissy...])
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To: null and void

If you think it’s all hopeless, why are you here?


38 posted on 06/20/2012 11:59:22 AM PDT by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: B Knotts

Because I don’t think it’s hopeless.


39 posted on 06/20/2012 12:16:04 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1247 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama is not a Big Brother [he's a Big Sissy...])
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