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House Panel Votes To Hold Holder in Contempt
wsj ^ | June 20, 2012 | EVAN PEREZ

Posted on 06/20/2012 2:29:09 PM PDT by Red Steel

WASHINGTON—A House committee voted to sanction Attorney General Eric Holder with contempt of Congress, escalating a standoff between Republicans and the Obama administration over documents about a botched gun-trafficking operation.

The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, in a party-line vote, approved the measure by the panel's chairman, Rep. Darrell Issa (R., Calif.), after a nearly six-hour hearing that largely devolved into partisan bickering. House Republican leaders immediately said they would bring the contempt measure to the House floor next week.

Just before the committee began its meeting Wednesday morning, the White House said President Barack Obama had asserted executive privilege over Justice Department documents sought by congressional Republicans.

The White House move added a legal complication to an increasingly partisan fight. A GOP congressional committee is using a "Fire Eric Holder" website to seek donations. The White House used the contempt vote to assert that Republicans were focusing on partisan fights instead of focusing on jobs and the economy.

White House spokesman Eric Schultz said Mr. Obama's reasoning was similar to that of former Presidents George W. Bush and Bill Clinton. Mr. Schultz said the other presidents "protected the same category of documents we're protecting today," meaning after-the-fact internal materials

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: 2deadfeds; 300deadmexicans; atf; banglist; brianterry; dea; dhs; doj; ericholder; executiveprivilege; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; ice; issa; jaimezapata; murdergate; obama; terry; zapata

1 posted on 06/20/2012 2:29:17 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

The WH move is a wrinkle, but holder was already in contempt of congress before hussein kardashian decided to admit he was part of the whole thing.

Gungate — just wait.


2 posted on 06/20/2012 2:33:30 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Guns Walked -- People Died -- Holder Lied -- Obama Golfed (thanks, Secret Agent Man))
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To: Red Steel

Can’t wait for this guy and BHO in Prison. I do think this is playing out rather nicely despite the frustration with the process. Thanks Red Steel


3 posted on 06/20/2012 2:34:54 PM PDT by DrDude (Governor of the 57th State)
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To: Nachum

PING


4 posted on 06/20/2012 2:37:04 PM PDT by DrDude (Governor of the 57th State)
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To: Red Steel

How much you wanna bet that Jarret’s name is all over those documents and that Bozo is attempting to cover for her?


5 posted on 06/20/2012 2:37:27 PM PDT by Batman11 (Obama's poll numbers are so low the Kenyans are claiming he was born in the USA!)
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To: Candor7; Red Steel

Next frickin’ week? Spineless RINO stalling tactic.


6 posted on 06/20/2012 2:39:58 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye
On the contrary...I think that now that the headline is in the news the public should get educated about the issue as much as possible before the vote takes place.

Plus, it gives the whip time to see how many Dem votes he can order up. 31 have stated support so far. We'll see if they stand fast.

7 posted on 06/20/2012 2:43:40 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Batman11

Hillary’s name probably comes up too and she has undoubtedly promised some field trips to Fort Marcy Park if any of this mess gets on her pantsuit.


8 posted on 06/20/2012 2:43:40 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye
I think there may be some House rules regarding the notice required for scheduling a floor vote, but I'm not positive.

-PJ

9 posted on 06/20/2012 2:44:34 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: what's up

Well, for once I’m caught being impatient when I have been scolding others for their hand wringing for months now. I suspect you are right.


10 posted on 06/20/2012 2:45:43 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Red Steel

I watched the secession this morning. I’ve never seen a display by Democrats before that was as ignorant of the facts, stupid and nasty. It was appalling.


11 posted on 06/20/2012 2:45:58 PM PDT by KyGeezer
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To: Red Steel
The Dems are throwing up all kinds of roadblocks against this vote. It's really funny to read what they are saying. One of the funniest is why this committee is "wasting" its time on this and not working on "jobs, jobs, jobs". What does an Oversight Committee have to do with jobs?

One "amendment" to the vote proposed by a Dem was for an itemized list of what all this "witch hunt" is costing the taxpayers. Where was the complaint of costs during Watergate or Iran-Contra? Selective, I guess; it's OK for Dems to spend taxpayer money on "witch hunts", but very bad if Repubs do it.

All of the Dems are now stonewalling. That word needs to be used over and over and over and over. The "news" media will avoid it like the plague, but if every Repub who goes on a talk show uses that word like a mantra, it will eventually get out the sheeple.

12 posted on 06/20/2012 2:46:15 PM PDT by jeffc (Prayer. It's freedom of speech.)
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To: Red Steel
Those weapons run to Mexico by the Oboma administration will be killing people for years. This is no small matter. There are @2 thousand of them.

From now on, every person killed with an American weapon may very well have been killed with an Obomaweapon.

13 posted on 06/20/2012 2:46:24 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Red Steel
IF Obama was unaware of Fast and Furious and never read the documents ..why did he issue Executive Privilege? he swears he was “out of the loop”
I would bet this will be a long drawn out process that may end up with the SCOTUS.
14 posted on 06/20/2012 2:47:28 PM PDT by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: Red Steel
Just before the committee began its meeting Wednesday morning, the White House said President Barack Obama had asserted executive privilege over Justice Department documents sought by congressional Republicans.

If this doesn't scream "Guilty!", I don't what does. The President cannot declare executive privilege over documents i order to cover up a crime which is, of course, just what Bozo is doing.

15 posted on 06/20/2012 2:52:23 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Red Steel

and the RATS, take another one in the.........HA ha!!!

16 posted on 06/20/2012 2:53:38 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: katiedidit1
he swears he was “out of the loop”

He's on tape claiming he had nothing to do with the Obomaweapons. So, he can't use executive privilege for that. He has to be personally involved.

The part he's hiding is his involvement in the cover up. He was directly involved in that part. This is why we need a contempt vote. It will bring the issue to the court and the documents will go public.

17 posted on 06/20/2012 2:54:10 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Batman11
How much you wanna bet that Jarret’s name

I'll bet you're right.

She's behind every one of Obama's decisions, yet her name is hardly ever in print.

18 posted on 06/20/2012 2:57:55 PM PDT by what's up
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To: TigersEye

The oversight committe voted today. Next week is actually rather quick considering the legislative schedule, etc. Also, some house members are in their districts this week, but they shall be present next week.


19 posted on 06/20/2012 2:58:07 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Red Steel
WASHINGTON—A House committee voted to sanction Attorney General Eric Holder with contempt of Congress, escalating a standoff between Republicans and the Obama administration over documents about a botched gun-trafficking operation.

The only thing that was botched is that they got caught. What they did was intentional: Over-ride the Second Amendment by treaty, disarm Americans, and arm a criminal military enemy.

20 posted on 06/20/2012 2:58:25 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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To: DrDude

“Can’t wait for this guy and BHO in Prison.”

You know if these guys were white nothing would happen.


21 posted on 06/20/2012 3:02:27 PM PDT by urbanpovertylawcenter (where the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: TigersEye
Next frickin’ week? Spineless RINO stalling tactic.

That's to give them enough time to shred evidence and wipe hard drives.

Weasels protecting weasels. Nothing new here.

22 posted on 06/20/2012 3:02:40 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: what's up

“On the contrary...I think that now that the headline is in the news the public should get educated about the issue as much as possible before the vote takes place.”

Your assessment is spot on. The propaganda press has been hiding this issue. It will take a while for citizens to get up to speed and read about this traitor infesting the whitehouse.


23 posted on 06/20/2012 3:07:53 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Public unions exist to protect the unions from the taxpaying public)
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To: urbanpovertylawcenter
You know if these guys were white nothing would happen.

If they were white they'd be in Leavenworth already.

24 posted on 06/20/2012 3:07:53 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (Goode over evil.)
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To: Red Steel
Whaddaya know, the Kos Kiddies now acknowledge that F&F existed! Up to know you wouldn't know it existed if you got all your news from sources like that.

Their arguments fall into one of two categories: vicious ad hominem attacks on Issa, and the inevitable "Bush's fault!" (i.e. they are incorrectly asserting that F&F was a Bush program).

Naturally the "racist" argument is probably not far behind.

25 posted on 06/20/2012 3:11:49 PM PDT by hitkicker (The only thing worse than a politician is a child molester)
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To: Army Air Corps; what's up; Political Junkie Too
Everyone make of this what they will but this thread is reporting that they held the vote and Holder has been held in contempt.

Contempt: Commit Votes 23-17, Finds AG Holder in Contempt;Holder Responds, Will Media?

26 posted on 06/20/2012 3:12:16 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

Hi, TE! Has anybody posted a tally of the votes? (Who voted aye and who voted nay).


27 posted on 06/20/2012 3:12:35 PM PDT by yorkie
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To: unixfox

They have had over a year and a half to destroy evidence so one more week would be superfluous. It can’t be done in this digital age anyway. Too many copies on too many servers.


28 posted on 06/20/2012 3:13:55 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: yorkie
Hi, yorkie! I think I just inadvertently answered your question. ;^)

You didn't know I was premonitious did you? lol

29 posted on 06/20/2012 3:17:47 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: yorkie

Actually I don’t know who voted yay or nay so I’m not so psychic after all. :(


30 posted on 06/20/2012 3:19:19 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: yorkie
It was 23 Republicans voting for it, 17 Democrats against it.

REPUBLICANS

Rep. Darrell E. Issa (CA-49)
Rep. Dan Burton (IN-05)
Rep. John L. Mica (FL-07)
Rep. Todd Platts (PA-19)
Rep. Michael Turner (OH-03)
Rep. Patrick T. McHenry (NC-10)
Rep. Jim Jordan (OH-04)
Rep. Jason Chaffetz (UT-03)
Rep. Connie Mack (FL-14)
Rep. Tim Walberg (MI-3)
Rep. James Lankford (OK-5)
Rep. Justin Amash (MI-3)
Rep. Ann Marie Buerkle (NY-25)
Rep. Paul Gosar (AZ-1)
Rep. Raúl R. Labrador (ID-1)
Rep. Pat Meehan (PA-7)
Rep. Scott DesJarlais (TN-4)
Rep. Joe Walsh (IL-8)
Rep. Trey Gowdy (SC-4)
Rep. Dennis Ross (FL-12)
Rep. Frank Guinta (NH-1)
Rep. Blake Farenthold (TX-27)
Rep. Mike Kelly (PA-3)

DEMOCRATS

Rep. Elijah Cummings (MD-7)
Rep. Edolphus Towns (NY-10)
Rep. Carolyn Maloney (NY-14)
Rep. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D.C.)
Rep. Dennis Kucinich (OH-10)
Rep. John Tierney (MA-6)
Rep. Wm. Lacy Clay (MO-1)
Rep. Stephen Lynch (MA-9)
Rep. Jim Cooper (TN-5)
Rep. Gerald Connolly (VA-11)
Rep. Mike Quigley (IL-5)
Rep. Danny Davis (IL-7)
Rep. Bruce Braley (IA-1)
Rep. Peter Welch (VT-At-Large)
Rep. John Yarmuth (KY-3)
Rep. Christopher Murphy (CT-5)
Rep. Jackie Speier (CA-12)

31 posted on 06/20/2012 3:25:20 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: TigersEye
Ping to the voting tally at Post 31
32 posted on 06/20/2012 3:27:04 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: All; Red Steel
The committee's website.
33 posted on 06/20/2012 3:29:41 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: newzjunkey

Thank you, Newz J! I was pretty sure it was straight down the line for each side, but wasn’t sure. I was hoping that at least some of the Dems would show a half a brain.


34 posted on 06/20/2012 3:33:48 PM PDT by yorkie
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To: TigersEye
That's the committee vote. Now it's been sent to the floor.

The full House vote is next week.

35 posted on 06/20/2012 3:35:46 PM PDT by what's up
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To: TigersEye
Too many copies on too many servers.

You obviously don't understand how this regime works. They are so corrupt the mafia doesn't even compare.

36 posted on 06/20/2012 3:36:19 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Sirius Lee

Don’t feed the troll! Thanks for the rebuke. Some people can’t resist spewing the talking points. I don’t think they even understand the subject matter. BHO & Holder are going down big time. They may avoid Prison but they will be gone after Nov. 2012


37 posted on 06/20/2012 3:46:05 PM PDT by DrDude (Governor of the 57th State)
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To: KyGeezer

” I’ve never seen a display by Democrats before that was as ignorant of the facts, stupid and nasty.”

That is because Democrats are no longer Demcrats, they are vicious dangerous and rabid anti-Americans, primarily consisting of rich brats who rebelled in the 60s. If they are a younger generation, they were raised by anti-Americans influenced by communism. Eventually, the snakes will die off. Sadly, they murder most of their offspring prior to birth so we can look forward to eventual extinction.


38 posted on 06/20/2012 3:48:04 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: unixfox

I know how the regime works and I know how digital media works.


39 posted on 06/20/2012 3:59:56 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: newzjunkey

Thank you.


40 posted on 06/20/2012 4:01:42 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Army Air Corps; All

Contact phone numbers and addresses for congress criters listed below. Need to get the word out and encourage everyone to Holder to the Fire!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2895739/posts


41 posted on 06/20/2012 5:15:30 PM PDT by hoosiermama ( Obama: " born in Kenya.".. he's lying now or then?)
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To: DrDude; Sirius Lee
Don’t feed the troll!

Sometimes the trolls are fun to play with before the lightening and they turn to crispy critters. Nice rebuke of the critter, Sirius Lee, nice!

42 posted on 06/20/2012 6:58:36 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: hoosiermama
Thank you!

From Issa's Facebook Page
Have you shown your support?

Contact phone numbers and addresses for congress criters listed below. Need to get the word out and encourage everyone to Holder to the Fire!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2895739/posts

43 posted on 06/20/2012 7:01:39 PM PDT by tsowellfan (Should Obama recuse himself from making any decisions on immigration?)
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To: Red Steel

June 20th 1972: the Nixon White House tape with the 18 and one half minute gap.

History repeats...


44 posted on 06/20/2012 8:52:34 PM PDT by bigoil (Study Thy Nixon)
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