Skip to comments.Documents: ATF used "Fast and Furious" to make the case for gun regulations (Dec 2011)
Posted on 06/20/2012 9:30:30 PM PDT by txnuke
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Care to cite some?
Oh yeah! She's a real piece of work. Unlike some I would never think of Hillary as some kind of lesser evil than 0rookie. Thanks for the link.
"and that's the way it is ....
Hmmm. I thought you'd have an actual example of original reporting. As interested as I am in this, I really haven't the time to search through 13 pages of links then compare them to the work of David Codrea and the Sipsey Street folks to see who got there first. Apparently you don't either. So it goes...
Impeach Holder... and his boss too!.
On that, I'm sure we can agree. G'nite!
1. Operation Fast and Furious was walking firearms to Mexican narco gangs without the knowledge of the Mexican government.
2. Operation Castaway was walking firearms from the U.S. to Honduran MS-13 street gangs.
3. Various internal ATF operations have been walking guns to large American city street gangs (e.g. from Indiana gun shops to Chicago street gangs).
So far, two U.S. agents, Terry (Border Patrol) and Zapata (ICE), have been killed, over 150 to 200 Mexican LEOs killed, and thousands of Mexican citizens killed as collateral damage in Mexico.
The following agencies and departments are complicit in the subversion of two sovereign nations and growing violent crime in the United States.
1. White House — Pres Obama and staffers.
2. DoJ — AG Holder and staff.
3. BATFE — Administrator Melson and staffers.
4. DoS — Sec Clinton and staffers; violations of Export Administration Regulations (EAR) and ITAR (International Traffic in Arms Regulations).
5. FBI — Director Mueller and staffers; tampering with evidence of third gun in Agent Terry shooting because shooter was one of their Confidential Informants that infiltrated one of the cartels command structure
6. DEA — Administrator Leonhart and staffers.
7. DHS — Sec Napolitano and staffers.
8. IRS — Director Schulman and staffers.
What we have here is a criminal enterprise of U.S. government agencies and departments that qualify for RICO indictments. There has even been misappropriation of “stimulus” funds to purchase guns from U.S. dealers for walking into Mexico by government departments/agencies.
And no one thinks this is a PROBLEM?
Thank you for your summary!
RICO, right on the money.
Don’t forget the DEA was laundering drug money for the cartels as part of another ‘sting’...
Knew this was the agenda all along.
There actually was a legitimate operation, Wide Receiver, which began under Bush and was carried out in conjunction with the Mexican government and police forces. It was aimed at tracking the criminal networks that got guns into the hands of the drug gangs, and was a typical sting operation that was monitored at every step of the way by law enforcement and in the riskier situations involved weapons that had been disabled. This is what Calderon thought he was agreeing to continue with Obama.
In reality, Mexico was utterly blindsided by the Obama operation, which had nothing to do with drug gangs but was intended to prove that legitimate gun sales were evil and to rev up support for some (US) gun control measures that Obama planned to impose. Mexicans are enraged by Fast and Furious, a cynical, arrogant operation that simply used their country and resulted in the deaths of hundreds of Mexicans. We lost two citizens to it; Mexicans lost hundreds, and in their own country, because of Obama’s ideologically motivated operation.
This from CBS?
Guess they must’ve talked to their accountants who advised they better stop losing money on their news division. Spouting lib talking points wasn’t putting bread on the table.
This is truly treason of the highest order.
Excellent! Finally we may be getting somewhere. Sharyl Attkisson of CBS News ROCKS!
That photo cannot come soon enough for me.
As reprehensible as Terry's death is, we should not lose sight of the fact that these weapons were provided to violent criminals who killed Mexican citizens, and without Mexico's knowledge. In addition to the sheer crime of the loss of lives, that is dangerously close to being an act of war against a (nominally) friendly foreign country.
I would like to remind everybody of a man named johnie sutton,the Prosecutor that was respnsible for Ramos and Campean.We knew then that bush was into something unsavory but no one ever followed up on it.
The drug money and money laundering had already been going on for a long time. It wasn’t until obama though, that they decided to use the ops to change the gun control laws in the US.
Is this what Obama fears?
nice....and sheriff Joe will supply the pink undies
“..She BETTER give credit to these guys, d@mmit!!!!!!!
THEY were the ones. NOT the MSM!...”
Mike Vanderbeough (at Sipsey Street Irregulars) and David Codrea were on this like white on rice since it first started; way back when Hillary made her “Iron River of American guns flowing into Mexico” statement, and Oblama with his “we’re working on something under the radar” statement.
They’re good guys, Patriots through and through.
I gave you dozens of examples of her original reporting. What did you give me on Hillary and guns? A search page with stories about gun control around the world and not one article that mentioned Hillary Clinton. Buzz off, dipstick.
Bookmark ... and a Hugh Thank You!
I’d say this was bordering on, if not completely stepping over the line of,
an act of war.
Now, it would be considered that, UNLESS, the Mexican government was in on it as well as a co-conspirator. In which case, they are just as evil if not more so - sacrificing their own citizens and law enforcement on the altar of gun control and Marxism.
Here it comes....
Am willing to offer an opinion. SeeBS has been taking hits from viewers, callers, and other assorted and possibly powerful and not so powerful people. Do not know at what level these hits are taking place, and continued hits are possibly ongoing, yet perhaps there maybe has been a shift of the ground under the powerful people at SeeBS. After Dan (would) Rather (lie) and the take down by an Internet person (here at this site of FreeRepublic) there has to have been high level discussions within SeeBS (imho). Am offering an opinion and do not know anything typed is for certain, though the TEA has left an unpleasant taste, in the mouths, of those who have been exposed (imho). This could be part of the reasoning for the break with the other networks. The other networks have to be trying to think on their backs as to how to recover from their incoherence possibly too for having went into or rather not into these facts of F&F, an inescapable set of facts that people died because of White House and Department of Justice policy, when the people dead from the weapons transferred did not have to die. Just some thoughts both of you are already aware of in your heart of hearts, and simply an opinion.
This we suspected from the beginning.
My apology. Thinking you should have been pinged to #77. Am relying on memory and believe am correct. If am making an error another apology.
This is a macabre form of political theater—a staged event meant to alter the public consciousness on an issue. The Obama camp has employed political theater regularly usually in the form of mass street demonstrations. Remember the stream of coordinated theatrics following the death of Bin Laden. In this case the intent was to create chaos in a foreign country and plant evidence that would lead back north to the U.S. firearms industry.
When the American public fully comprehends the cold-blooded crime that a handful of conspirators from the White House, Justice Department and ATF perpetrated in early 2009 they will become enraged.
“Fast and Furious” also describes the Obamunist mission to destroy (”fundamentally transform”) America from within.
Yep. We knew this. It was easy to figure out. It's the lefts MO.
In order for the democrats to do anything, they have to create a crises (oboma weapons killing people in great numbers).
They wait for people to cry out for relief (we need stronger gun laws!).
They blame their opponents (the Republicans and NRA for the killings).
They come in with a "new way" (more government regulations and institutions), because the "old way" (liberty) didn't work!
Everything works just fine until the "progressives" decide to break it. Health care was fine until the "progressives" decided they wanted the premium money for themselves. They sent out the trial lawyers to drive up the costs so high, people would cry out for relief. They then blamed their opponents, and passed a massive, anti-liberty Obomacare bill. Presto! All that insurance money is now theirs.
"Never waste a good crises"(even if you have to create the crises yourself).
Actually it is a GOOD thing that it’s still in the “Popular Now” list. People will still see it and at least CBS hasn’t stifled it.
Noted. I did not specifically request this, but included Admin Moderator in a previous post saying this is old news.
Moderator, please add date in brackets to headline.
Good that its still getting some attention in the "popular now" list at cbsnews.com
And the sabotage of the BP oil rig made the case for Obama’s domestic oil drilling moratoriums.
You should look closer - there are 24 mentions of Hillary just on that page. Each of them is about her role in supporting foreign intervention in the Second Amendment.
Your contention was that Atkisson did original reporting on F&F, I just thought you might have an example of that in the front of mind. Apparently not.
I want her and everyone who did good work on this to keep doing it. As Reagan said, a lot gets done when you don't worry about who gets credit.
I was Holder prosecuted. I want this "long national nightmare" over.
Idiot! I gave you a link to a list of all of her articles. Examples don’t get more direct than that.
Who's the enemy here? The citizens?
This government favoring foreign interests in seemingly all avenues over it's own people.
Oh man!!! Corrupt corrupt corrupt
Wow. You’ve called me “dipstick” and now “idiot”. Ad hominum attacks are usually the refuge for folks who have no other facts or logic at their disposal. I can only infer that you’re out of ideas on this ridiculously minor issue.
I said I didn’t have the time to wade through everything she’s written to do the comparison I thought you’d be able to supply. You evidently can’t provide a specific example for your assertion that Atkisson supplied original reporting on F&F and that’s fine - no big deal. I also don’t have further time to help you provide relevance to your unsubstianted assertions.
Enjoy your Pulitzer, Sheryl!
I guess an ad-hominem in your case is superfluous. You make it clear enough with your own posts.