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Union demands credit card numbers from members
The Washington Examiner ^ | 6-20-12 | Joel Gehrke

Posted on 06/21/2012 5:51:05 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

One school employee union in Michigan is demanding that members turn over bank account and credit card information so that the union can automatically claim monthly dues after the state voted to stop deducting the money on behalf of the union.

“Debbie Bence, president of the Plymouth-Canton Cafeteria Association, sent a letter to her union members on June 4 stating that the dues had to be paid as a condition of employment,” the Capitol Confidential (Mich.) reports. Members can also pay dues in full at the beginning of the year.

Her demand came after the Michigan Supreme Court found that the state’s practice of automatically deducting dues on behalf of the union’s political action committee violated campaign finance laws; the state legislature also passed a bill ending the automatic deduction of union dues that is under contention in federal court.

In Wisconsin, the state AFL-CIO lost over half its members after Gov. Scott Walker, R, and the state legislature ended the automatic deduction of dues from worker paychecks. Bence’s union chapter is part of the Michigan Education Association, one of the most powerful education unions in the country.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: bluefist; campaignfinance; power

1 posted on 06/21/2012 5:51:14 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The “check off” from hell.


2 posted on 06/21/2012 5:54:36 AM PDT by shove_it (just undo it)
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
Kneecaps are next.

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3 posted on 06/21/2012 5:55:02 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

This should give pause to another large percentage of remaining union members.

50% have quit already.

This stunt should drive another 10% from their ranks.


4 posted on 06/21/2012 5:55:10 AM PDT by G Larry (There's no hope of a safe landing when you hire a suicidal pilot!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; ...

Wisconsin ping: Union fall out from Walker recall hits other states

FReep Mail me if you want to be on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping list.


5 posted on 06/21/2012 5:55:10 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Keep it up AFL-CIO if you want massive certifications.
6 posted on 06/21/2012 5:58:25 AM PDT by shove_it (just undo it)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
...a letter to her union members on June 4 stating that the dues had to be paid as a condition of employment...

EXTORTION!


7 posted on 06/21/2012 5:58:53 AM PDT by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

So is the defunded union gonna fire them?


8 posted on 06/21/2012 6:00:35 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: afraidfortherepublic
...dues had to be paid as a condition of employment,..

The real reason unions oppose right to work.

9 posted on 06/21/2012 6:01:12 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: shove_it

Maje that DEcertifications.


10 posted on 06/21/2012 6:01:39 AM PDT by shove_it (just undo it)
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To: Islander7
What's next? Re-education camps?
11 posted on 06/21/2012 6:01:51 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: mnehring

The Union Conservatives support right to work.

http://www.unionconservatives.com/


12 posted on 06/21/2012 6:03:27 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

What if one does not have a credit card?


13 posted on 06/21/2012 6:04:54 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
"Isn't it simple as one, two, three? One: The working conditions are bad. Two: They're bad because the mob does the hiring. And three: The only way we can break the mob is to stop letting them get away with murder." - Father Barry, On The Waterfront
14 posted on 06/21/2012 6:05:30 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: afraidfortherepublic
What a crock of s#@t! The union can do nothing about this. Unions do not hand out these folks paychecks. Face it Unioncrats,the gravy train is running out of track.
15 posted on 06/21/2012 6:06:54 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (No matter who you elect,the government eventually gets in.)
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To: Islander7

You’re right, it does sound like EXTORTION, but if the cafeteria association is union then you pay or you don’t work. The Teamsters did it to me and I had no choice but to join the union at the company I was working for.


16 posted on 06/21/2012 6:14:30 AM PDT by Country Eagle
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To: cuban leaf

You’re fired.


17 posted on 06/21/2012 6:15:46 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: afraidfortherepublic

They would be able to follow the spending habits of union members. They could see who is making donations to GOP candidates and target them for “re-education” or termination.


18 posted on 06/21/2012 6:23:27 AM PDT by Freestate316
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To: afraidfortherepublic

What is the real difference between this union and a guy with a computer in Nigeria asking for your bank and credit card info?..............


19 posted on 06/21/2012 6:24:16 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
--at a minimum,someone needs to inform them (the members ) of Beck vs IBEW---U.S. Supreme Court--
20 posted on 06/21/2012 6:25:42 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: Red Badger
What is the real difference between this union and a guy with a computer in Nigeria asking for your bank and credit card info?..............

The Nigerian doesn't break your legs if you say no.

21 posted on 06/21/2012 6:29:03 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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To: G Larry
Former MEA Local Prez: Union May Lose 40% of Members – Including Him – if Teacher Right to Work Passes (sept 2011)

As a teacher in the Grand Ledge Public Schools and a former teachers union president, John Ellsworth says the various education reforms coming from Michigan’s Republican-led government are “despicable.” He thinks the much-talked about “right-to-teach” legislation for public school employees, which would make joining a teachers union voluntary, is part of “a continued attack” blaming teachers for school woes.

Yet, even Ellsworth says he would drop his Michigan Education Association membership if right-to-work for teachers became a reality.

“Yes. I think I would,”

22 posted on 06/21/2012 6:37:19 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: KarlInOhio

LOL!!...........


23 posted on 06/21/2012 6:41:22 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Wiley bastids.


24 posted on 06/21/2012 7:21:30 AM PDT by moovova
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Kind of like those ads on tv that promise you for free one whatever it may be; then keep sending you the product and charging your credit card.


25 posted on 06/21/2012 7:23:09 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; All
Incredibly STUPID move by the union...I hope they continue to push it..Hehehehehe!

Given that in Wisconin, 55% of AFSCME members have dropped out of the union, and an estimated 40% of Wisconsin teachers have left the union ( the union will NOT release the actual numbers) we can assume that the same percentages will apply in Michigan.

Hence, if the union pushes his, expect to see a petition my many members for a decertification vote. The mystique that the union is beloved by its membership will be forever dispelled.

26 posted on 06/21/2012 7:27:47 AM PDT by ken5050 (FRACK Obama!!!)
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To: Red Badger

The Nigerian is much more respectfull...

“Dear Honorable Sir,

Your respected reputation has brought you to my humble attention...”


27 posted on 06/21/2012 7:29:23 AM PDT by moovova
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To: moovova; KarlInOhio
I think we should start a TOP TEN LIST!.............

What is the real difference between this union and a guy with a computer in Nigeria asking for your bank and credit card info?..............

1. The Nigerian doesn't break your legs if you say no.

2. The Nigerian is much more respectfull... “Dear Honorable Sir, Your respected reputation has brought you to my humble attention...”

28 posted on 06/21/2012 7:42:45 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: Country Eagle

“You’re right, it does sound like EXTORTION, but if the cafeteria association is union then you pay or you don’t work. The Teamsters did it to me and I had no choice but to join the union at the company I was working for.”

Am I understanding this right? Are closed shops still legal in the US? They were abolished 30 years ago here in the UK.

NB - closed shop is the British term for an employer where union membership is mandatory.


29 posted on 06/21/2012 7:53:22 AM PDT by Caulkhead
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To: Caulkhead
Am I understanding this right? Are closed shops still legal in the US? They were abolished 30 years ago here in the UK.

The same term is used here. Whether they are legal is determined by state law. Right now 23 states do not allow closed shops and 27 states do allow them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_work_state#U.S._states_with_right-to-work_laws

The states marked in blue are where closed shops are illegal.

30 posted on 06/21/2012 8:04:17 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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To: moovova; KarlInOhio
I think we should start a TOP TEN LIST!............. What is the real difference between this union and a guy with a computer in Nigeria asking for your bank and credit card info?.............. 1. The Nigerian doesn't break your legs if you say no. 2. The Nigerian is much more respectfull... “Dear Honorable Sir, Your respected reputation has brought you to my humble attention...”

3. The Nigerian will go away if you ignore him.

4. The Nigerian won't burn down your house.

5. The Nigerian won't kill your cat.

6. The Nigerian won't drive by pointing his finger at you like a gun.

7. The Nigerian won't put a rattlesnake in your mailbox.

8. ........

31 posted on 06/21/2012 8:05:38 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: cuban leaf
What if one does not have a credit card?

What about the dust up by libs because of those poor folk who cannot even be bothered to obtain a photo ID?

Oh the humanity! /s

32 posted on 06/21/2012 8:06:42 AM PDT by exit82
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Not just NO! but “He!! NO”!!

Never, NEVER give a rogue organization personal information.


33 posted on 06/21/2012 8:09:13 AM PDT by meyer (It's 1860 all over again - the taxpayer is the new "N" word)
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To: Freestate316

Really? If someone has my credit card number, they can look into my account? When did this start? Are there programs out there that allow vendors to track my other expenditures? Not that I don’t believe it, I just hope not.


34 posted on 06/21/2012 8:17:47 AM PDT by I_be_tc
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Next they will be placing leins on homes.


35 posted on 06/21/2012 8:22:56 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: I_be_tc

I’m no expert, but I would think that with your account # and SS# the federal government would be able to access that information. I put nothing past these people. Unions themselves might not be able to on their own, but with the covering of Obama and Holder’s DOJ, anything is possible.


36 posted on 06/21/2012 8:33:54 AM PDT by Freestate316
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To: Red Badger

3. The Nigerian was willing to meet with 20/20.


37 posted on 06/21/2012 8:36:57 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Caulkhead

I live in OHIO. We are not a right to work state so closed shops are legal. SUCKS!


38 posted on 06/21/2012 8:38:11 AM PDT by Country Eagle
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To: meyer
LOL meyer
Talk about personal information the teamsters use your SS# as your account #. I tried to fight it and lost.
39 posted on 06/21/2012 8:42:44 AM PDT by Country Eagle
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To: G Larry

I love it when they feed on their own.


40 posted on 06/21/2012 8:45:40 AM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: KarlInOhio

That’s appalling - is there no political effort to abolish such Marxist ‘principles’ in these states?


41 posted on 06/21/2012 4:25:10 PM PDT by Caulkhead
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Michigan could use more honey badgers.
42 posted on 06/21/2012 5:21:44 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Next they'll want their Facebook passwords. That's when people will REALLY revolt.

-PJ

43 posted on 06/21/2012 5:29:46 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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