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Discipline recommended for 7 U.S. troops in Qur'an burning
Jihad Watch ^ | June 19, 2012 | Pamela Geller

Posted on 06/21/2012 6:06:13 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet

WASHINGTON (AP) — A U.S. military investigation is recommending that as many as seven U.S. troops face administrative punishments, but not criminal charges, in the burning of Qurans at a U.S. base in Afghanistan in February, The Associated Press has learned.

U.S. military officials said the classified report and recommendations for disciplinary action against the service members involved were delivered to the Pentagon more than a week ago. They have been turned over to the Army and Navy secretaries. No final decisions have been made.

According to the officials, one Navy service member and as many as six Army soldiers could face nonjudicial disciplinary actions, which can range from a letter in their file to docking their pay or assigning them additional duties.

(Excerpt) Read more at jihadwatch.org ...


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Keeping in mind that the "NEW" PC, Multicultural Pentagon and DOD REMF JCS do not operate in a vacuum and that they would not undertake this action absent approval from the Oval Office, how many MORE examples do we need to see, before we accept the fact that our FASCIST, Neo-Commie, is more interested in appeasing, defending, bowing...and yes even SUPPORTING....the practitioners of the "Religion of Pieces," as opposed to our brave, valiant, Military Warriors?

Moreover, as there is ABSOLUTELY nothing in the UCMJ or US Statutes which in any way, prohibit the burning of a "Qur'an" (intentional or otherwise)--or make it a "crime" or "offense--there is but one conclusion for this travesty of "justice:" Islam/Sharia (whereby to defame, insult, denigrate the "holy" psyhotic, murdering, pedarast "prophet," the ROP, or its objects is to practice) is being considered as trumping our Constitution...all in the name of placating, being "subservient to," and ameliorating the Islamists in Afghanistan as well as around the world.

As a Nam Vet I am beyond INCENSED over this recommendation and if even ONE of these individuals are "punished" there should be such a backlash by all Vets, their family and friends, as to make our reaction, exposing and oppostion to John Kerry in 04, pale by comparison.

1 posted on 06/21/2012 6:06:18 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

Sad how PC our military has become.


2 posted on 06/21/2012 6:07:20 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

I agree with giving them supplemental courses....on 1) how to completely burn that trash so that no proof exists, and 2) how to shut up about it.

For our leaders, I suggest a course consisting of teaching them to say, “I don’t give a smelly septic Obama about whether or not your offended. Shove it up your Mohammed.”


3 posted on 06/21/2012 6:11:27 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

Well. I think it is scandalous to burn a Koran. I think feeding them to pigs is much better!!


4 posted on 06/21/2012 6:11:43 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet; All

Oh come on.

Why would YOU be surprised that our FIRST MUSLIM PRESIDENT protects his HOLY QUARAN?

You do know he is the equivalent of a Muslim Terrorist, don’t you?

Don’t you?

Could Americans be such fools that they don’t think anymore and let the PRESS do ALL of their thinking for them? What do you think Libya, Egypt and Israel is all about?


5 posted on 06/21/2012 6:12:49 AM PDT by politicianslie (Obama: Our first Muslim PRESIDENT,destroying America $1 Trillion at a time! And America sleeps)
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To: Da Coyote

Oops, that’s “you’re”, not “your”.

In the spirit of Obamadork, I blame Bill Gates for the misspelling.


6 posted on 06/21/2012 6:13:21 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

Those Men are welcome at my house for a nice cold one anytime


7 posted on 06/21/2012 6:14:26 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet
From what I understand, these Korans were accidentally burned. To take this to an Article 15 is absurd.

The rush to "justice" is disturbing, given the fact that Nadal Hasan's case has yet to go to trial.

That is an indictment of the current chain of command.

8 posted on 06/21/2012 6:17:08 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (My dream ticket for 2012 is John Galt & Dagny Taggart!)
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To: al baby

They should say they burned the Korans because it is anti-Gay.


9 posted on 06/21/2012 6:17:25 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: massgopguy

Exactly.

Tens of thousands of Bibles were burned by the American military. Not even a news report on that.


10 posted on 06/21/2012 6:20:42 AM PDT by TigerClaws (He)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

Sounds like another minor incident of WORKPLACE VIOLENCE!


11 posted on 06/21/2012 6:26:16 AM PDT by Iron Munro (John Adams: 'Two ways to enslave a country. One is by the sword, the other is by debt')
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet
And yet ONE MORE example of this Administration's effort to "submit" to the demands or some Islamists who wish to do nothing more than prevent any successful attempt at exposing exactly what the barabaric, evil, cult-cum-religion Islam is or being willing to acknowledge that those who are waging "War" against us (and the West) do so in the name of this vile, supremacist, complete, "political system," posing as a "religion."

Military instructor suspended over Islam course

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/06/military-instructor-suspended-over-islam-course.html

(Reuters) - The instructor of a college course that taught top military officers the United States was at war with Islam has been relieved of teaching duties and the course ordered redesigned to reflect U.S. policy, a military spokesman said on Wednesday.

The elective course at the National Defense University's Joint Forces Staff College included a slide that asserted "the United States is at war with Islam and we ought to just recognize that we are war with Islam," Pentagon officials said in April as they launched a review of the course.

Colonel David Lapan, a spokesman for the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said on Wednesday a review of the course found that "institutional failures and in oversight and judgment" led to the course being modified over time in a way "that portrayed Islam almost entirely in a negative way."

READ IT ALL!

This Administration (and sadly, the previous on under the "Compassionate Conservative") have/had NO (serious) intentions of combating that which is responsible for 99.99% of all the Terrorist activities throughout the World; they (both Dear Leader and Boosh) flatly refused to identify who and what it is (Islam and it's "true believers") which has been at war against us since the founding of our Republic.

12 posted on 06/21/2012 6:32:54 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet
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To: massgopguy

Now why didn’t the defense think of that?

D’OH!


13 posted on 06/21/2012 6:43:24 AM PDT by silverleaf (Every human spent about half an hour as a single cell)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

Seeing as the koran is such a filthy dirty hate filled book, it is unusable for even toilet paper. Burning is the only viable solution to ridding this planet of this devil worshiping hate cult.

Those who burned the koran, should be given Green awards for assisting in cleaning up the planet.


14 posted on 06/21/2012 6:44:51 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: Da Coyote

I think they all just need a good spanking with neckties held by coeds wearing see -thru lingerie.


15 posted on 06/21/2012 6:53:43 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Travis McGee

Seven U.S. troops face administrative punishments.
Ok send them home for sixty days with no pay.

AKA R&R


16 posted on 06/21/2012 7:01:52 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

Remember this is simply the recommendation by the investigating officer. The commander of these Soldiers is the one who will make the final call. I imagine it won’t be much more than a slap on the wrist. Something like 24 hours confined to post, suspended for 48 hours.


17 posted on 06/21/2012 7:04:12 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

I could not recommend anyone to serve in the military now. Ridiculous ROE’s that can get you killed, an overbearing PC culture, gay pride rubbish, and an overbearing bureaucracy.


18 posted on 06/21/2012 7:06:21 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: TigerClaws

I’m thinkin’ God is really, really gonna let us have it: Psalm 4:2 “How long will you people turn my glory into shame? How long will you love delusions and seek false gods?” He is only patient for just so long...big ruckus over burning false doctrine, no ruckus over burning the Bible...upside down world we live in fer sure!


19 posted on 06/21/2012 7:09:23 AM PDT by sassy steel magnolia (USAF life and Navy wife...God Bless the USA!)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

The same punishment metted out for those that burned the thousands of Bibles, sent to our troops.

Clearly the same “laws” apply to both books,....right?


20 posted on 06/21/2012 7:17:16 AM PDT by G Larry (There's no hope of a safe landing when you hire a suicidal pilot!)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

Discipline? WTF?? These heroes should be awarded medals and commendations.


21 posted on 06/21/2012 7:43:32 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

If I were one of these troops, I would refuse the administrative punishment. That forces the command to either charge me under UCMJ or drop the action. When I was in the service in the ‘80s I did exactly that and the action was dropped.


22 posted on 06/21/2012 7:51:48 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

BULLSHIT........


23 posted on 06/21/2012 8:31:28 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: taxcontrol

So now our soldiers are punished for burning the book that tells the muslims to kill them. That makes sense...sure it does.


24 posted on 06/21/2012 9:35:34 AM PDT by Pure Country (“I’ve noticed that every person that is for abortion has already been born.” -Ronald Reagan)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

Meanwhile the Pentagon is planning Gay Pride events.....


25 posted on 06/21/2012 10:21:03 AM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: Tzimisce

I’m glad I was forced to retire from the military at age 60 earlier this year before this gay pride month hit.


26 posted on 06/21/2012 11:12:51 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (It's time to take out the trash in DC.)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

Consider how difficult it is now to be a service chief. On the one hand, your service has been your life. On the other hand, you have a POS, communist CinC who hates the military.


27 posted on 06/21/2012 11:17:02 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: Arrowhead1952

What happened to this country? :(

Never when I was growing up did I EVER think I’d be facing this. :(


28 posted on 06/21/2012 11:17:53 AM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

Freedom of speech!!!


29 posted on 06/21/2012 11:20:59 AM PDT by jarofants
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet; All

30 posted on 06/21/2012 11:22:47 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

Seems to me that this Administration is treating the different groups of those who serve differently. The military is treated differently than other branches.

When individuals in the Justice Department get caught in anything that can embarrass the leadership, they get rewarded by promotion or pension (to shut them up?). But those in the military, who also serve under this President, get punished.


31 posted on 06/21/2012 12:20:53 PM PDT by Real Cynic No More (OxBAMA!!'s name is all caps as sarcasm to indicate a lack of respect, as he does not deserve it)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

Desecrating Korans, sheesh..! Scary..!

These military guys are SO stupid —they should instead have killed two badged US officers and 200 Mexicans:

THEN they could have gotten of (so far) scott free..!

Other thing to avoid at all legal costs: steroids.


32 posted on 06/21/2012 1:22:04 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Travis McGee

You will hereby write on the blackboard 100x. “I will never burn that piece of sh!t, the Koran, again.”


33 posted on 06/21/2012 1:46:57 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: Tzimisce
What happened to this country?

Political correctness.

34 posted on 06/21/2012 2:17:43 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (It's time to take out the trash in DC.)
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To: Wurlitzer
Seeing as the koran is such a filthy dirty hate filled book, it is unusable for even toilet paper.

Actually, it is a beautiful book, full of poetry and fanciful stories designed to help lead those people.

The filthy dirty part is that parts that are like AMENDMENTS to the CONSTITUTION, except there is no 'vote' taken. Those parts are kept separate. Those parts are from generations of Mullahs who scribed (to make it moral and legal) these 'rules' to allow them to do anything to stay in power, and anything to satiate their 'lust'.

(Much like our current politicians are doing)

There isn't a big difference between the history parts of the Koran and the Bible. They were built from the same foundation.

Greek Mythology had Pegasus, Mohammed rode away on a winged black horse, and Jesus will fly in from heaven on a white horse.

In ISLAM, the religious leaders (who were just vagabond thieves trying to move up the ranks) made themselves THE GOVERNMENT and GOD.

(again, much like our politicians here)

It is the Mullahs proclamations that incite the violence in the followers of the Koran. It is not the Koran itself. But to keep the people from seeing how the Mullahs are living like Gods while the masses suffer, The Mullahs give the people someone else to blame. (one more time, much like our politicians do )

Heck, the Mullahs even have their 'followers' worshipping a charred meteorite.

I don't believe that GOD (aka Allah) asked them to worship a dumb rock.

So while you may object to the Koran, and wish it destroyed, remember that the people who tell you that terrorism is due to what's in the Koran, are the same one's who are telling you that you can't wear shirts with the word GOD on them, or use a Christian Prayer, or say Merry Christmas.

35 posted on 06/21/2012 2:21:56 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

The Saudi state seizes privately owned bibles and other non-Islamic texts and burns them every year with no outrage from our Hate Department.


36 posted on 06/21/2012 2:32:11 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The media ignored the 40th anniversary of Bill Ayers' Pentagon bombing but not Watergate. Ask Why.)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet
WHO are these traitors that would suggest any such thing?...

our military is full of lifers who don't want to spoil their good thing...

I am more and more adamant that we stop having lifetime service....no one should serve that long...they get too indebted to the benefit/pension package and they'll do anything to keep their job or get a promotion....

37 posted on 06/21/2012 3:00:22 PM PDT by cherry
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To: UCANSEE2

100% bull!

When wishing someone a Merry Christmas involves beheading then I’d want to ban that also.

Until then, your lovely koran (comic book for retards) still is not good for toilet paper as you cannot clean up crap with crap.


38 posted on 06/21/2012 3:37:04 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

So essentially someone put them on a garbage burning detail but forgot to mention that they should double check what they were burning?

It is the officers who ordered the books to be burned,that should be punished,not the soldiers following the orders.


39 posted on 06/21/2012 5:21:12 PM PDT by Del Rapier
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

“U.S. officials have said that the service members did not know what they were throwing into the burn pit and that the books were pulled out by Afghan workers before they were destroyed.”

If they didn’t know until after the fact, they shouldn’t be punished. Also, how did this get leaked to the press in the first place?


41 posted on 06/22/2012 5:07:23 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama and Company lied, the American economy died)
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To: Clintonfatigued

How many copies have been burned as a result of predator drone attacks authorized by the “commander in chief”?


42 posted on 06/22/2012 7:29:55 AM PDT by littleharbour
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To: ZULU; Travis McGee
Well. I think it is scandalous to burn a Koran. I think feeding them to pigs is much better!!


43 posted on 06/22/2012 11:49:16 AM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: Wurlitzer
Seeing as the koran is such a filthy dirty hate filled book, it is unusable for even toilet paper.

I wouldn't say that!


44 posted on 06/22/2012 11:51:29 AM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: Arrowhead1952
I’m glad I was forced to retire from the military at age 60 earlier this year before this gay pride month hit.

Don't ask, don't tell has become Quit Braggin'.

45 posted on 06/22/2012 11:53:03 AM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: archy

Beautiful!!


46 posted on 06/22/2012 12:04:33 PM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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To: Arrowhead1952

Back in the early 70’s, being gay was illegal.
In the 90’s, it was tolerated
In 2011, it became accepted

I’m glad you got out before it became required.


47 posted on 06/22/2012 1:18:59 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: archy

Is that Mad Mo on the left?


48 posted on 06/22/2012 3:58:51 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

No leave for one week!


49 posted on 06/22/2012 4:40:31 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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To: massgopguy
They should say they burned the Korans because it is anti-Gay.
That's right. Play one grievance group against another. Though the fact is, the average marxist will drop gays and women like hot potatoes for the chance to kowtow with a muzzie.
50 posted on 06/22/2012 4:48:14 PM PDT by samtheman (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/21/obamas-socialist-designs/)
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