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Rubio asks: What is Holder hiding about Fast and Furious?
The Daily Caller ^ | 20 June, 2012 | Matthew Boyle

Posted on 06/21/2012 6:42:35 AM PDT by marktwain

Florida Republican Sen. Marco Rubio said on Wednesday he’s concerned about what President Barack Obama’s administration is keeping from the American people about Operation Fast and Furious.

“I have tried to be very patient and judicious and responsible in my statements up to this point, and to give the administration and Eric Holder the benefit of the doubt,” Rubio said in an appearance on conservative radio host Laura Ingraham’s program. “I think after today we now begin to wonder what many have begun to wonder… What are [members of the Obama Administration] hiding?”

On Wednesday Obama asserted executive privilege over Fast and Furious documents subpoenaed by House oversight committee Chairman Darrell Issa. The move followed Attorney General Eric Holder’s last-second request for him to do so, ahead of a scheduled committee vote to begin contempt of Congress proceedings against Holder.

“There is something in there they don’t want us to know, there is something in there they don’t want us to see, and you begin to get concerned,” said Rubio. “What are they covering up now?”

“I think we’ve reached a dangerous new place with regards to this administration’s contempt of Congress and I don’t mean another play on words,” Rubio added. “I think we’re in very dangerous territory now.” (DOC BLOCKED: Obama asserts executive privilege over Fast and Furious documents)

Rubio hasn’t outright called for Holder’s resignation, and his spokesperson won’t answer whether he’ll join presumptive GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney, five U.S. senators and 129 House members demanding Holder’s ouster.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2deadfeds; 300deadmexicans; atf; banglist; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; ice; murdergate; obama
Holder should not resign, he should be arrested. I wonder if President Obama initiated the claim of executive privilege, or if Eric Holder did.
1 posted on 06/21/2012 6:42:44 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Rubio ain’t alone in his curiosity! Story is a whistle blower contacted Issa and others with some bit of culpatory info. True/false? Hope to find out SOON!


2 posted on 06/21/2012 6:47:39 AM PDT by donozark (Rainbow Herbicides: Better living through modern chemistry...)
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To: marktwain

What is Holder hiding...?

1. Who knew.
2. When they knew it.
3. What orders were issued.

If those facts did not endanger the regime, the documents would have been provided to Congress.


3 posted on 06/21/2012 6:51:58 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: marktwain

So far, the left has no consistent story on this issue. Chris Matthews says it’s just a racist thing, that Tamara says it just takes time to get the documents together. The left seems rather shocked about this.


4 posted on 06/21/2012 6:53:31 AM PDT by MNDude ( Victimhood is the Holy Grail of liberalism)
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To: marktwain; Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; ...

“...and to give the administration and Eric Holder the benefit of the doubt,” Rubio said”

Huge mistake, Marco. NEVER give these scum the benefit of the doubt. You will be wrong 100% of the time.


5 posted on 06/21/2012 6:53:56 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: donozark

Who keeps asking Rubio? Ask one of the adults on the committee!


6 posted on 06/21/2012 6:55:22 AM PDT by UncleSam (Why must someone else always make the final decisions?)
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To: MNDude

Whatever it is, whatever they’re hiding has to be more damaging than the admission (by the EP claim) that they lied about 0bama having nothing to do with it.


7 posted on 06/21/2012 6:56:53 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: marktwain

I’m more interested in what Obama is hiding.


8 posted on 06/21/2012 6:57:12 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: marktwain

Holder and Obama are hiding the motive.

Pay attention to what they have allowed us to know. I don’t believe for a minute the cover story, that somehow they were going to rile people up against guns, and that was the purpose of all this.

Quid-pro-quo with drug cartels with complicity of Mexican Government? That would explain why Calderon isn’t asking for Holder’s head.

Guatemala?


9 posted on 06/21/2012 7:01:45 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: wayoverontheright

You believe “rile people up against guns” is just another cover story? I’d be interested in more of your thoughts on the underlying purpose.

They aren’t even admitting to that. They’re sticking with the “gun trafficking tracking gone awry” storyline.


10 posted on 06/21/2012 7:05:26 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: marktwain

I don’t think 0bama would have invoked EP if he wasn’t covering his skinny arse because he just drew all the heat to himself. It’s a last ditch desperate measure to hide his involvement.


11 posted on 06/21/2012 7:10:20 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: MrB
It does seem a lot bigger than a gun control scheme.
12 posted on 06/21/2012 7:13:48 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: UncleSam

Rubio’s trying to scrape the poop he stepped in earlier this week off his foot.


13 posted on 06/21/2012 7:15:30 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: marktwain

Rubio’s behind the curve again.

The big question is “What is Obama hiding?”


14 posted on 06/21/2012 7:17:51 AM PDT by Iron Munro (John Adams: 'Two ways to enslave a country. One is by the sword, the other is by debt')
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To: marktwain

—Rubio asks: What is Holder hiding about Fast and Furious? —

Actually, now that EP has been revoked, the correct question is, What is OBAMA hiding about Fast and Furious?


15 posted on 06/21/2012 7:18:34 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: marktwain

Revoked = invoked


16 posted on 06/21/2012 7:19:00 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: marktwain
"I have tried to be very patient and judicious and responsible in my statements up to this point, and to give the administration and Eric Holder the benefit of the doubt," Rubio said in an appearance on conservative radio host Laura Ingraham's program.

redacted text restored;

Rubio continued, "My focus has been and remains the far more importante issue of getting the Dream Act and amnesty passed. While procedurally clumsy the President's edict the other day is a giant step to doing the right thing"

"It wouldn't be prudent to ask for AG Holder's resignation at this time. Let's wait until we know which way the wind is blowing"

Venceramos! Adios, and good night!

17 posted on 06/21/2012 7:21:34 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: wolfman23601
I’m more interested in what Obama is hiding.

One of the excuses the left is offering is the documents are "private conversations between attorneys and clients." So, my question is... why would Obama take such interest in sequestering them? Something stinks out loud here and the pressure should be applied continually.. 24/7.

18 posted on 06/21/2012 7:26:07 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: wayoverontheright
Quid-pro-quo with drug cartels with complicity of Mexican Government?

If the number of guns is accurate, seems like small potatoes, so the gun control motive still seems more likely to me in this case.

The quid pro quo might be that Calderon keeps his mouth shut about the murders of Mexican citizens in return for Obama formalizing the illegal presence of other Mexicans in the US (i.e. some degree of amnesty).

19 posted on 06/21/2012 7:29:39 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: marktwain

Correct me if I am wrong on these points, but the truly key facts about F&F continue to be ignored in most of the media. Some that come to my mind include:

State Department/Hillary involvement.

Federal money/payments used to buy the guns.

Lack of tacking devices on the guns.

Federal pressure on unwilling gun dealers to break the law during these sales.

Zapata’s death occurred after he published an official report on the operation, and Napolitano then lied about his involvement under oath.

These guns ending up at crime scenes repeatedly in the US.

The number of murdered Mexicans involved.

Key witness inaccessible after being send to Afghanistan over a year ago.


20 posted on 06/21/2012 7:31:36 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: marktwain

Holder has shown his contempt over the law on almost every move that jackass has made. King Obama is a communists gangster and Holder is his second in command. The MSM have sold America down the river and should be exposed that they are a communists organization and equal time should be forced at peak hours for opposing views with no interruption..


21 posted on 06/21/2012 7:32:50 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: marktwain

Trey Crowder of S.C. is the real bulldog on the hill!


22 posted on 06/21/2012 7:35:12 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: MestaMachine
Huge mistake, Marco. NEVER give these scum the benefit of the doubt. You will be wrong 100% of the time.

Everyone seems to get the cart before the horse. In order for there to be "benefit of the doubt", there must first be "doubt". In my mind, there is no longer any doubt for which benefit can be given.

23 posted on 06/21/2012 7:36:08 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More (OxBAMA!!'s name is all caps as sarcasm to indicate a lack of respect, as he does not deserve it)
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To: marktwain
What is Holder hiding about Fast and Furious?

To quote Brad Garrett of ABC News this morning on DFW station WBAP: "Probably nothing."

According to Brad it was all just a low-level BATF affair that went sadly awry, no involvement by Holder or Obama, just a lot of political grandstanding by the Republicans. Nothing will come of it...

This is government run media on display, folks.

24 posted on 06/21/2012 7:37:54 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: marktwain

I’m wondering whether any drug cartel representatives have given any campaign contributions, or other money disguised as such.


25 posted on 06/21/2012 7:37:54 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More (OxBAMA!!'s name is all caps as sarcasm to indicate a lack of respect, as he does not deserve it)
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To: Covenantor
Venceramos! Adios, and good night!

Rubio is the perfect point man to keep F&F in the Hispanic spotlight.

Apparently he's not being vetted for VP, he's come out in favor of the DREAM ACT (demonstrating his supposed solidarity with Hispanic interests) and he's articulate, charismatic and popular.

Obama apparently arranged for Mexicans to be murdered for his own political gain, but still has the nerve to expect their votes.

Rubio should keep this issue front and center, while Mitt continues to talk about the economy.

26 posted on 06/21/2012 7:38:40 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: marktwain
Rubio should be taking the lead in hammering the administration with this.

Mexicans were expendible

Operation Fast & Furious had as its central purpose the subversion of the US Constitution. The program's stategy was to gin up a furor over guns sourced in the US being used in Mexican crime so that the US public could be stampeded into restricting the 2nd Amendment. Since few such guns were being used in Mexico more had to be supplied. They also had to show up at crime scenes so that they could be traced back to the US to 'prove' the Obama administration's assertions.

The GOP should be harping on one message every time F&F is mentioned. F&F was a program designed to result in Mexican deaths - so that 'evil' US-sourced guns could be found at the crime scenes and US gun laws could be blamed for the carnage. Holder, Napolitano, Hillary and Obama and a host of their minions cooked this program up knowing that Mexicans would die - in fact, needing Mexicans to die for this scheme to work. The Obama administration was cynically willing to slaughter Hispanics to accomplish their political purposes. The only "botch" in the scheme was F&F guns turning up to get Americans killed too.

27 posted on 06/21/2012 7:42:26 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: Menehune56

ABC New’s line yesterday was ‘Obama evoked EP, but all presidents have evoked EP, its no big deal’.


28 posted on 06/21/2012 7:46:38 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Bushbacker1

That’s Trey Gowdy ... and, yes, he IS attacking aggessively.

This is Watergate all over.


29 posted on 06/21/2012 7:56:50 AM PDT by Walrus (Today's question: Why are there so many negroes in advertisements?)
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To: marktwain

He’s “concerned”. How about “outraged”, “piS$ed off”, “angry as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore”?

Enough with the PC talk, talk as if you were a man with a set.


30 posted on 06/21/2012 8:05:37 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: marktwain

Good to see Rubio speaking out on this. Further vetting for the Romney camp. See if he has mettle.


31 posted on 06/21/2012 9:37:05 AM PDT by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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To: Walrus
This is Watergate all over............
32 posted on 06/21/2012 11:14:28 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: Real Cynic No More

33 posted on 06/21/2012 11:16:10 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: MrB
You believe “rile people up against guns” is just another cover story? I’d be interested in more of your thoughts on the underlying purpose. They aren’t even admitting to that. They’re sticking with the “gun trafficking tracking gone awry” storyline.

I just think that if the goal was to set the American people up to accept more restrictive gun laws, that there are so many more effective ways they could have gone about it than allowing guns to get into the hands of Mexican drug gangs. Mexicans are dead, scores of them and I don't think that particularly bothers anyone this side of the border. Yes, two Americans are dead, but that wasn't supposed to happen.

What do Mexican drug lords have that the worst within the Obama administration might want to trade the guns for? How about money? How about as much or more money than Obama's largest corporate donors?

Our President has spent all but four hours a day fund raising for the past three months. I think they would accept a "donation" from anyone. Could the drug cartels have carried out some other mission for Obama/Holder? Why is Calderon not screaming for someone's head? Mexican police have been killed by these guns. Why wasn't this an international incident months ago?

Guatemala? I don't have much more than a hunch that the Zelaya ouster and subsequent demand by the Obama administration to reinstate him, that perhaps it ties somehow to indirectly arming Zelaya's proponents in Guatemala through Mexico. Just a hunch. The Guatemala incident was a big black eye for the Obama adminstration and these people are vindictive in the extreme.

34 posted on 06/21/2012 12:03:19 PM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Thanks for the cartoon!

There are two unrelated Don Winslow novels that make for excellent reading and may go a long way, by means of fictionalized narrative, towards explaining what may really be happening with regards the Mexican and Columbian drug cartels:

1) Power of the Dog - if i remember correctly, the premise of this book is that the U.S. Federal government is looking the other way and actually supporting one drug cartel in competition with another.
2) Savages - This novel focuses on the lives of three individuals, two men and a woman, from their teen years on, who get involved in the drug trade, starting out with marijuana. It has now been made into an Oliver Stone motion picture, which may actually become a blockbuster. Information I have from a Google search indicates it will be out July 6 - only a few weeks away. It has an all-star cast, including TAYLOR KITSCH, BLAKE LIVELY, AARON JOHNSON, JOHN TRAVOLTA, BENICIO Del TORO, and SALMA HAYEK. It may be worth seeing just because of Salma Hayak!

Both of the books are unrelated action novels, and excellent reads. Savages is also a love story. Winslow has now writtern a prequel to Savages that was just released last week, The Kings of Cool, and I just bought it on Kindle for $11.99, but haven't yet read it.

35 posted on 06/21/2012 12:05:58 PM PDT by Real Cynic No More (OxBAMA!!'s name is all caps as sarcasm to indicate a lack of respect, as he does not deserve it)
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To: Walrus

I tried to change it to Gowdy before I posted, but it didn’t change. Yes, I knew it was/is Gowdy. I was thinking of going to the local hardware store...Crowder Bros. Thanks for the correction, anyway.


36 posted on 06/22/2012 4:19:29 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: donozark

What is the saying...don’t ask questions unless you already know the answer?

I think ISSA has the smoking gun and is playing this out to the bitter end. I have a feeling he was expecting the EP.


37 posted on 06/22/2012 4:25:05 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: wayoverontheright

Interesting post, way. Food for thought.


38 posted on 06/22/2012 4:35:27 AM PDT by bonfire
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