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Should an Evangelical Vote for a Mormon for President? [Popular Theologian Opines]
normgeisler.com ^ | Norman Geisler

Posted on 06/21/2012 9:36:35 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

According to the US Constitution (Article VI), "No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." So, given the way the Supreme Court has interpreted the Constitution, Mormons are not eliminated from the presidency. Of course, there are no Constitutional prohibitions forbidding a citizen from voting for or against someone because of their religious (or irreligious) beliefs.

So, what should an evangelical Christian do in the coming presidential election between Barak Obama and Mitt Romney? I cannot speak for others, let alone for all evangelicals, but I can tell you what one evangelical voter is going to do and why. Here are some of the main principles that come into play in my decision.


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nted to apply such a test, we do not have a really good choice religiously. We face a painful dilemma of voting for a liberal professing Christian (Obama) with Muslim leanings or a cultist Mormon who claims to be Christian. The truth is that we do not live in an ideal world; we live in a real world. Realistically, we have only two candidates who could win the election, and we can only vote for one. To stay away on Election Day is to throw our vote away. Further, even on religious grounds, a liberal Christian denies as many, or more, essential truths of the Christian Faith as does a Mormon. So, in this election any religious test as to who is more in harmony with evangelical beliefs is basically a washout.

Second, we do not live in a black-and-white world. There is a lot of grey. So, on the question of good, we don’t have a purely good or evil choice in this election. There is both good and evil in each choice. In such a world, even if one were faced with a dilemma between voting for a known Devil or for a suspected witch, he should not despair. He should vote for the suspected witch! To restate the old adage, even a quarter of a loaf is better than almost no loaf at all. Whenever both options appear to have significant evil, we ought to vote for the one which has the greater good. For me, Romney wins on this criterion.

Three, Martin Luther once said that he would rather be ruled by a competent Turk than an incompetent Christian. Likewise, on the issue of life, it would be better to vote for a Pro-Life Mormon than for a Pro-Abortion Liberal Christian. After all, the right to life is a basic constitutional right. In fact, the right to life is the right to all other rights. The dead don’t have any rights. Abortion has already taken some 50 million American lives and Romney is certainly a better bet to stop this continuing holocaust than Obama who favors even partial birth abortions.

Fourth, there are other issues that are important—character counts. In the character contest, from what I know of the two candidates, Romney wins on personal moral character. Both his individual and political integrity appears to be much better than that of his rival who, contrary to expectations, has turned out to be an all-too-typical Chicago politician, as is evidenced by his leftist leaning appointees and his questionable political tactics.

Fifth, another matter on which we can judge candidates is the economy. Which candidate do I believe would be best for the economy, that is, to reduce the gigantic national debt and produce more jobs? Both candidates have considerable public records to review on these matters. Having done that, I believe hands down that Romney would fit the presidential bill best.

Sixth, when it comes to the issue of the Supreme Court, we have a very important choice in the coming presidential election. On economic, religious, and moral matters, the Supreme Court is split. There are four votes for most conservative issues and four votes for most liberal issues. The next president can easily tip the scales by one appointment! This may be one of the most crucial things the next president of the United States does. If applied to the Roe v. Wade abortion issue, it could turn the tide! We know what kind of people Obama has and will appoint, namely, left-wing liberals. Romney will almost certainly do better than this. I am counting on and voting for him to give the highest court in the land a conservative majority. This alone with be worth voting for him.

Seventh, there is the issue of Americanism. If there is any office in the country that demands being a good American, it is the presidency of the United States of America. No, I am not speaking of blind patriotism. But when I think of an American president, I think of someone who is 100% American. I think of someone who makes me want to rise and sing, “I am proud to be an American!” I would be less than honest if I said that I get this feeling when Barak Obama speaks for our country. I get it much more when Romney speaks.

Of course, there are to be sure other qualifications for president such as experience, knowledge of foreign policy, health-care, immigration policy, the environment, education, size of government, the military, the right to bear arms, private enterprise, etc. Although a case can be made for Obama in some of these areas, in my book the decided advantage goes to Romney in most of these areas. And so far as I can see, Obama does not have a significant advantage in any of these areas.

As for the seven criteria listed above, the first one is a washout, and Romney is the unanimous winner of the other six. So, despite my disappointment on the religious issue expressed in previous posts, and given the circumstances and the choice of either Romney or Obama, I have decided that a vote for Romney is the best thing I can do for the future of America.

1 posted on 06/21/2012 9:36:39 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

If for Romney in 2012, yes, but if for Harry Reid in 2016, no.


2 posted on 06/21/2012 9:38:39 AM PDT by gusty
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To: SoFloFreeper

I love the Martin Luther quote. Here is more about Geisler: http://www.normgeisler.com/about/default.htm


3 posted on 06/21/2012 9:39:17 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper
US Constitution (Article VI), "No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."

That has nothing to do with the individual - zip zero nada nothing

The individual may use ANY criteria they chose as to who they will vote for or not vote for.

4 posted on 06/21/2012 9:43:06 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The Bible tells us that we will have to stand for our words spoken in life... I think our votes will be tallied also.

LLS


5 posted on 06/21/2012 9:43:46 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Better to vote for someone who has a religious belief and practices it than to vote for someone that has no belief in God and no moral compass at all except for self aggrandizement.


6 posted on 06/21/2012 9:44:17 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: SoFloFreeper
I could vote for a Mormon. Most Mormons I know are very conservative.

Romney's problem is that he's Obama’s ideological twin — or at least first cousin....

7 posted on 06/21/2012 9:44:53 AM PDT by ziravan (Are you better off now than you were $9.4 Trillion dollars ago?)
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To: SoFloFreeper
The reason that I do not want to Romney because of his religiosity but because he as a RHINO. Alex Jones called him a Centrist Democrat.
8 posted on 06/21/2012 9:45:35 AM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Likewise, on the issue of life, it would be better to vote for a Pro-Life Mormon than for a Pro-Abortion Liberal Christian.

Too bad there's no Pro-Life Mormon running this year.

9 posted on 06/21/2012 9:48:09 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo (Support hate crime laws: Because some victims are more equal than others.)
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To: gusty; All
If for Romney in 2012, yes

Under no circumstances will I ever stand before my Maker and explain that because he was the lesser of two evils, I supported a baby-killing cultist who directly or through his organization proclaimed that:

  1. There are more gods than the one God revealed in the Bible.

  2. God is a glorified, perfected human being with a body of flesh and bone.

  3. God is polygamously married to dozens (at least) of wives, and spends eternity as a type of Celestial Stud engaged in endless copulation producing countless spirit babies.

  4. Jesus is the spirit brother of Lucifer.

  5. Jesus is the literal Son of God who was conceived through direct sexual intercourse between the Virgin Mary and God the Father -- or in other words, that God committed incest with his daughter Mary.

  6. A person is saved into heaven by virtue of their good works.

  7. A person must accept Joseph Smith in order to receive salvation and must pass in judgment before Joseph Smith before being admitted into Heaven.

  8. A person must believe in Prophet Lorenzo Snow's famous couplet: As man now is, God once was ... As God now is, Man may become … that a person must be sealed in a Masonic-based temple ceremony to his/her spouse for time and all eternity in order to become gods and goddesses ruling over our own planet.

  9. Non-whites are loathsome and cursed because of something they did or did not do in the dawn of pre-existence whereas people of European descent in general, and Mormons in particular, are white and delightsome and thus superior to minorities.

  10. Wives will only be resurrected after their husbands after he calls out their Temple Name from beyond the veil.

  11. Christianity ceased to exist after the death of the twelve apostles, to the point where all Christian Churches (especially the Baptists, Catholics, Methodists and Presbyterians) became an abomination in the eyes of the Lord.

  12. The Mormon Church is Christian.

Furthermore, I can't believe that any true Christian anywhere would ever contemplate supporting any candidate for any public office that espouses such horrible heretical and blasphemous doctrines -- be they Muslim, Mormon, or whatever.

In my case, if asked to uphold one cultist or the other, I will always support neither no matter what the cost or penalty.

10 posted on 06/21/2012 9:53:23 AM PDT by Zakeet (We have to go spend money to keep from going bankrupt - Joe Biden)
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To: ziravan

I don’t see how Romney’s religion is really all that important. It’s his ideology, which is firmly progressive, that I can’t stand.

That being said, I’m not sure where the notion that Mormon = hard-core conservative comes from. At least as far as elected officials are concerned, the Mormon ones seem to be overwhelmingly centrists/leftist.


11 posted on 06/21/2012 9:54:42 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (not voting for the lesser of two evils)
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To: SoFloFreeper

If we vote in Romney this time and let the GOPe win then I really fear who they will put up next time. We constantly vote for who they put up and each time they are less and less conservative. Next time, Mayor Bloomberg could be the candidate and you will be preaching the same exact thing. Vote for Bloomberg....I can see it now.


12 posted on 06/21/2012 9:56:55 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: SoFloFreeper
Likewise, on the issue of life, it would be better to vote for a Pro-Life Mormon

You be sure to let me know when we finally get one to run for President.

13 posted on 06/21/2012 9:57:09 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (not voting for the lesser of two evils)
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To: SoFloFreeper

We’re voting for the government office of President of the United States not the spiritual position of Pope, President, Bishop or what have you. Ideally, I’d like a president who openly expresses his fidelity to the Yahweh God of the Bible and prays to seek His will in America’s affairs.

However, more important is to find the most competent government executive to face the enormous challenges our country faces. In that regard, we see that the preent chief executive is incompetent and needs to be removed. If that means replacing him with a RINO with questionable spiritual views, that’s still better than the status quo.


14 posted on 06/21/2012 9:57:48 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: Zakeet

Zak,
back at ya.
ampu


15 posted on 06/21/2012 9:58:45 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I'm comfortable with a Romney win." - Pres. Jimmy Carter)
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To: SoFloFreeper

It goes hand in hand with Luther 2 kingdom theology, theology of the right and left hand.


16 posted on 06/21/2012 10:03:56 AM PDT by scbison
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To: SoFloFreeper

Should a Christian do everything possible within a Republic’s electoral system to deny the Presidency to an adherent of Black Liberation Theology - that thinks they need to “kill” any God who is not “for us” (Blacks) and will “accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy.”?


17 posted on 06/21/2012 10:05:14 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Should an Evangelical Vote for a Mormon for President?

A nice question. One that seems, on the surface, to be a valid one.

But...

Let's take the SAME premise and turn it around:

Should a CHRISTIAN Vote for a Member of a FALSE religion (as defined by christianity) for President?

Too strong? Then how about, "Should an CHRISTIAN Vote to place a known heresy believer into the Highest Office of the Nation, the freest on Earth, that has In GOD we trust on it's coinage?

18 posted on 06/21/2012 10:06:49 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Don Corleone
Better to vote for someone who has a religious belief and practices it ...

I would hope that WHAT they 'believe' in ain't...

1. Islam...
2. Voodoo...
3. Marxism...
4. MORMONism...
5. (You get the idea...)

19 posted on 06/21/2012 10:10:16 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Zakeet
I have despised romney for many years and his religion never entered into it. Once I became educated on his religion... it became a major point of contention. I was never going to vote for romney ever... but now his religion is just as important a reason not to vote for him as the many other reasons... he is a member of a science fiction cult that stands against the one and true GOD... and HE ordered that that there should be none put before HIM. On top of that, JESUS stated that the only way to the FATHER was through HIM... not joseph smith.

LLS

20 posted on 06/21/2012 10:11:01 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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