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‘Sharply divided’ Supreme Court postpones ObamaCare decision
Life Site News ^ | June 21, 2012 | KATHLEEN GILBERT

Posted on 06/21/2012 3:31:32 PM PDT by NYer

WASHINGTON, D.C., June 21, 2012, (LifeSiteNews.com) - The U.S. Supreme Court has pushed back the hotly-anticipated ruling on the federal health care law, as Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg disclosed that the Court was “sharply divided” over the question - but gave no hint as to the outcome.

Although media were preparing for a ruling on Thursday, the high court was silent on the health care lawsuit, leaving Monday as the next possible date for a decision.

Court watchers have said that the justices’ reactions during the three days of hearings in March gave little indication of where the Court would land on the health care dispute.

The case is complicated by three major points of disagreement: whether the mandate forcing Americans to purchase health insurance is unconstitutional, whether the law could stand without the mandate, and whether its expansion of Medicaid is within the boundaries of federal power. A fourth possibility, that the case would be deemed immature, is thought to be more remote.

Meanwhile, Justice Ginsburg on Friday commented on the High Court’s unusually heavy case load and hinted that the nine justices were pushing the most difficult decisions, including the health care law, to the last minute of their session, which finishes at the end of the month.

“As one may expect, many of the most controversial cases remain pending,” Ginsburg said. “So, it is likely that the sharp disagreement rate will go up next week and the week after.”

Ginsburn also conceded that the health care decision would be an historic one - at least, judging by the amount of attention it has garnered.

“Some have described the controversy as unprecedented,” she said, “and they may be right if they mean the number of press conferences, prayer circles, protests, counter protests, going on outside the court while oral argument was under way inside.”

Yet the answer they all sought, said Ginsburg, was not about to leak.

“At the Supreme Court, those who know don’t talk,” she said. “And those who talk don’t know.”

If the entire law is overturned, the ruling would mark a massive victory both for the health care law’s political opponents as well as faith-based leaders struggling to overturn the law’s preventive services insurance mandate, which is set to force religious groups to pay for contraceptives and drugs many consider abortifacient by August 2013.

An Associated Press-GfK Poll conducted June 14-18 found that only one-third of Americans support the health care law, while 47 percent opposed it. Nearly twice as many said they strongly opposed the bill as those who strongly supported it, 32-17 percent.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: health; healthcare; hhs; obama; obamacare; scotus; supremecourt
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1 posted on 06/21/2012 3:31:45 PM PDT by NYer
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To: NYer

WTF?


2 posted on 06/21/2012 3:32:32 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The Presidential Race is about the relative light reflectivity of your Socialist Slavemaster.)
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To: NYer

recycled news


3 posted on 06/21/2012 3:32:39 PM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

HHS update ping!


4 posted on 06/21/2012 3:33:10 PM PDT by NYer (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: NYer

We have a winner: MOST MISLEADING HEADLINE OF THE YEAR.


5 posted on 06/21/2012 3:35:10 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (TIN)
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To: NYer

Ridiculous. The author and publisher of this tripe should be ashamed.


6 posted on 06/21/2012 3:38:04 PM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: NYer

Sounds like Justice Ruthie is doing some liberal arm twisting to get things to go her way.


7 posted on 06/21/2012 3:38:11 PM PDT by teletech (Say NO to RINOS!)
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To: NYer

I’m not a wealthy man, but I would be willing to wager $1,000 that (considering his latest sycophant, Obama-Bot appointments, “The Wise Latina,” and more than likely Kagan) Dear Leader already knows the decision.


8 posted on 06/21/2012 3:38:56 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet
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To: NYer
"Yet the answer they all sought, said Ginsburg, was not about to leak."

There is NO doubt in my mind that the White Hut has insiders on the Staffs of the USSC, that are giving them a blow-by-blow account of the discussions, leanings, and arguments. I would NOT be surprised if Bull Dyke Kagan is one of the insiders that's passing the info, so they spending will pick up markedly, and so will staffing, to implement as much Obamacare as possible before it's Ruled upon. Hard to find ANYONE in Congress with balls enough to cut Federal Staff, Useless Agencies, Czars, etc., as it is.

9 posted on 06/21/2012 3:40:23 PM PDT by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: NYer

Ginsberg has no business talking about an issue before the court. What a fracking idiot.


10 posted on 06/21/2012 3:40:43 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: NYer

my theory is that the later the decision, the better for us. stalling is the favorite tactic of politicians when they are in trouble.


11 posted on 06/21/2012 3:41:23 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

We all know the decision, in fact, Boehner confirmed it.


12 posted on 06/21/2012 3:43:35 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: dadfly

Not me - I fear threats and intimidation - you know the Chicago way.


13 posted on 06/21/2012 3:45:10 PM PDT by demkicker (My passion for freedom is stronger than that of Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.)
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To: NYer

All the Democrats talking points for the last month give clues as to what is going to happen. The real question is how far the Supreme Court is going to go in overturning it?


15 posted on 06/21/2012 3:45:32 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: svcw
Ginsberg has no business talking about an issue before the court.

You are absolutely right. I know the role of the SC is unique, but would this be allowed in any other court? She is acting completely beneath the level of integrity expected of a justice.

16 posted on 06/21/2012 3:45:39 PM PDT by Faith
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To: Perdogg

Okay - tell us - I missed Boehner confirming anything.


17 posted on 06/21/2012 3:46:50 PM PDT by demkicker (My passion for freedom is stronger than that of Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.)
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To: demkicker

It is in Breaking News, my friend.


18 posted on 06/21/2012 3:49:22 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: NYer

Please Ruth, I am begging you. If that is what it takes to show you the depth of my love for this Republic. Don’t save this debacle. You know our country. We will not let this issue rest. Something will be done. We will pray for our duly elected leaders to address the issue. Some will need courage. Some will need wisdom. Some will need time. Some will need scolding. Some will need compassion. None need any more money. All can use our prayers.


19 posted on 06/21/2012 3:51:48 PM PDT by Kudsman
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To: NYer

Ok. So if we already didn’t know the decision, we can be pretty sure about it now. Ruthie is a definite supporter of Obamacare. If the decision had gone her way, she’d describe it as a unified court handing down a wise, carefully deliberated decision. Instead, we get a sharply divided court that is postponing the release of this ruling.

Obamacare is done. Stick a fork in it.


20 posted on 06/21/2012 3:53:25 PM PDT by Shadowfax
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To: Perdogg

The spiking the ball thing?


21 posted on 06/21/2012 3:54:10 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: netmilsmom

yes.


22 posted on 06/21/2012 3:55:38 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

Wow, I hope he’s right. I’m off to the Prayer meeting to Kick-off the Fortnight for Religious Freedom.

We can use some good news.


23 posted on 06/21/2012 3:58:27 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: NYer

This article is nonsense.

The decision was not “pushed back”. It simply has not yet been announced.

The Court may or may not be “sharply divided” (whatever that means). We cannot know.

And there is no reason to think that the divisions on the Court (if any) have had any effect on the schedule for announcing the decision.

Other than that, it’s a fine article.


24 posted on 06/21/2012 3:59:07 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: NYer
Postponed implies that a date had been set for the announcement of their decision and then put back.

How does anyone know that?

25 posted on 06/21/2012 4:00:53 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001. NEVER FORGET.)
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To: NYer
leaving Monday as the next possible date for a decision...

It's my belief that Monday, the official last day of the SCOTUS term, we'll get the Arizona decision as well as 2 or 3 or 4 more... but not healthScare. There WILL be one additional day ADDED to the SCOTUS calendar, for whatever opinions remain... PLUS healthScare. No telling which day the added day will be, but figure they have no compelling reason to stay once it's announced, so might as well make it early to mid-week rather than later in the week.

26 posted on 06/21/2012 4:04:26 PM PDT by C210N ("ask not what the candidate can do for you, ask what you can do for the candidate" (Breitbart, 2012))
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To: dadfly

The decision was made a long time ago. The opinions have been writtem. It is just a matter of timing as to whem the decision will be handed down. It has to be next week—Monday or Thursday.


27 posted on 06/21/2012 4:05:35 PM PDT by kabar
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To: NYer

The decision is already made. They are just waiting to get their opinions in order and are probably squabling over the wording.

But they voted and made the decision within a week or two of the hearing.

I hope they knock the whole thing down...it is what they should do if they themselves were going to be true to their oaths to the constitution to bear true allegiance to it. But we already know that there are at least two, and maybe three, who care not a whit what the Constitution says or the clear meaning of those who wrote it. They are more concerned about “modern” juris prudence and opinions and have proven themselves more than willing to rull accordingly, throwing the Constitution to the curb in the process.

IMHO, such Justices should be impeached and kicked off the court...and I know there is a process to do that very similar to impeaching a President where the House votes to impeach (or indict) and the Senate votes to remove. We just need representatives with the will to do so.

America at the Crossroads of History
http://www.jeffhead.com/crossroads.htm


28 posted on 06/21/2012 4:09:09 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: NYer

Heard an interview with a SCOTUS lawyer and former SC clerk, who explained what is going on here.

The decision has been written, and will not change. What is happening now is the justices are reviewing and wordsmithing the language of the majority and (I presume) dissenting opinions. This comes down to nuance and personal privilege, i.e. “I can’t agree with the third sentence in section 9, para. 21 where it says...” And once a change is agreed to, it’s got to be floated by all the other justices who may not accept the changes, and so back around the process goes. He said this is always done but with very high profile cases like this, the nits that are picked become tinier and the level of tolearnce goes down - in other words it will go on until the hard deadline says “Enough!” and they will then wrap it and release the opinion.

Sounds perfectly credible to me...all the foibles of human nature still exist even at the SCOTUS level.


29 posted on 06/21/2012 4:09:34 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: C210N

SCOTUS will be kicking it in the Maldives by the time the decision is announced.


30 posted on 06/21/2012 4:09:54 PM PDT by AU72
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To: rogue yam
This article is nonsense.

Come again? The whole country is "listening" in one way or another. Isn't it? You are. If you are going to post nonsense, please be kind enough to include an IMO or something.

31 posted on 06/21/2012 4:15:26 PM PDT by Kudsman
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To: demkicker

yeah. fortunately, future intimidation tends to backfire with true conservatives (i.e., works against feckless liberals, statists and rino/cinos).

my big fear is the existence of wickard v. filbern.

we gotta hope that justice stephens (sp?) is not a fearful man or that he is at least principled.


32 posted on 06/21/2012 4:17:16 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: NYer
The case is complicated by three major points of disagreement: whether the mandate forcing Americans to purchase health insurance is unconstitutional, whether the law could stand without the mandate, and whether its expansion of Medicaid is within the boundaries of federal power.

They would not be discussing point two if the answer to point one was No.

33 posted on 06/21/2012 4:17:19 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Bain Capital would not have bought Solyndra)
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To: dadfly

justice stephens?


34 posted on 06/21/2012 4:20:04 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: NYer

It would seem to me that if the decision went her way she would not characterize it as divisive.


35 posted on 06/21/2012 4:21:24 PM PDT by nitzy ( Conservation is the policy of stewardship. Environmentalism is the religion of pagans.)
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To: NYer
It doesn't matter how you characterize divided, you dried up old corpse. 5 to 4 means you lose.

Or have you and your 3 lefwing loony pals devised a way to blow up SCOTUS until you have a majority?

36 posted on 06/21/2012 4:27:08 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: NYer

FU Kathleen Gilbert! You should be fired! That article, and headline, are absolute garbage!


37 posted on 06/21/2012 4:33:40 PM PDT by Batman11 (Obama's poll numbers are so low the Kenyans are claiming he was born in the USA!)
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To: NYer

I think this is bad news, because it sounds like they are trying to compromise with the lefties to try to make it seem that the supreme court is unified. Bad for freedom.


38 posted on 06/21/2012 4:37:25 PM PDT by dila813
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To: AU72

“kicking it in the Maldives”

Muslims have been revoting there.

Oh. You didn’t mean the actual Maldives.


39 posted on 06/21/2012 4:39:25 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Kudsman
"This article is nonsense. Come again? The whole country is "listening" in one way or another. Isn't it? You are. If you are going to post nonsense, please be kind enough to include an IMO or something. "

I don't know. It does appear to be nonsense to me also. I can find anything corroborating this story. It sure seems like some of the other news sites would be quoting this justice. Looks to be made up nonsense to me. Anyone else find a credible source to back this up?

40 posted on 06/21/2012 4:39:44 PM PDT by precisionshootist
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Oops. Revolting.


41 posted on 06/21/2012 4:40:15 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Kudsman

What the heck are you talking about?


42 posted on 06/21/2012 4:40:31 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: dila813

“trying to compromise with the lefties”

Horses heads in beds and manila envelopes with pix of family and children notwithstanding?

Pelosi-Reid-0bama-style?


43 posted on 06/21/2012 4:42:13 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Batman11

Agreed. LifeSite used to be good. I won’t be reading anymore of their articles as long as this twit is still there.

I have better things to do with my time.


44 posted on 06/21/2012 4:43:54 PM PDT by free me (heartless)
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To: svcw

**Ginsberg has no business talking about an issue before the court.**

Agree completely, in fact, should she be reprimanded for speaking about SCOTUS business by the Chief Justice?


45 posted on 06/21/2012 4:53:27 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer

Um, it’s Thursday, and this article talks about what happened on Friday.

That’s some special stuff they’re smoking, I guess.


46 posted on 06/21/2012 4:54:06 PM PDT by Vladiator
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To: Perdogg

oh, right. that should be kennedy. the swing justice.

thanks for the pickup.


47 posted on 06/21/2012 4:54:34 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: NYer

If the court finds Obamacare Constitutional with a 5-4 vote with Kagan as the “it’s legal” tie-breaker, all heck will break loose and should.


48 posted on 06/21/2012 5:05:15 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Perdogg

We all know the decision, in fact, Boehner confirmed it.


What do you mean?


49 posted on 06/21/2012 5:07:26 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: NYer

Precisely how was the decision postponed when it had never been scheduled for a specific date?


50 posted on 06/21/2012 5:11:51 PM PDT by Will88
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