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Desperation: Obama Surrogate Calls to Make Voting Mandatory
breitbart.com ^ | 6/21/12 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 06/21/2012 4:23:13 PM PDT by ColdOne

Peter Orszag, former head of the Obama Office of Management and Budget, is desperate. With even Roll Call recognizing that President Obama is fighting an uphill battle for re-election, Orszag is floating a trial balloon: mandatory voting. His call for forced voting comes in an op/ed for Bloomberg News:

The U.S. prides itself as the beacon of democracy, but it’s very likely no U.S. president has ever been elected by a majority of American adults.

It’s our own fault -- because voter participation rates are running below 60 percent, a candidate would have to win 85 percent or more of the vote to be elected by a majority.

Compulsory voting, as exists in Australia and more than two dozen other countries, would fix that problem. As William Galston of the Brookings Institution argues, “Jury duty is mandatory; why not voting?”

During the 2008 election cycle, voter participation was approximately 64 percent; in 2004, it was about the same. Orszag wants that number up. Why?

Beyond simply raising participation, compulsory voting could alter the role of money in elections. Turn-out-the-vote efforts, often bankrolled by big-money groups, would become largely irrelevant. Negative advertising could be less effective, because a central aim of such ads is to discourage participation in the opponent’s camp.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dictatorship; dncbrownshirts; forcedvoting; howtostealanelection; idiocy; insanity; liberal; lunacy; mandatoryvoting; obama; obamunism; orszag; stupidvote; surrogate; uninformedvote; voterid
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1 posted on 06/21/2012 4:23:19 PM PDT by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne

never happen. You’d need positive picture ID at the polls to be sure you got everyone.


2 posted on 06/21/2012 4:25:23 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: ColdOne

Uh hmm. Because it is a right not to vote. Or write somebody in.


3 posted on 06/21/2012 4:25:32 PM PDT by Kudsman
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To: ColdOne

Oh, that guy again. Let me start with the ad hominums. So, Orszag how many women you got pregnant this time?


4 posted on 06/21/2012 4:25:38 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ColdOne

These Communist bastards can go straight back to hell where they belong.


5 posted on 06/21/2012 4:25:50 PM PDT by unkus
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To: ColdOne

Why dont we just create a Federal program for surrogates to vote for the welfare staters, et al?

Appointed of course, by the President’s Just Us Dept.


6 posted on 06/21/2012 4:26:36 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Free the Zimmermans. . . end this political, racist travesty of a "prosecution")
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To: ColdOne

I bet they would love a proxy ballot from me though so they could vote for me.


7 posted on 06/21/2012 4:27:56 PM PDT by Kudsman
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To: ColdOne

the dead voting caucus might object.


8 posted on 06/21/2012 4:29:11 PM PDT by biggredd1
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To: ColdOne

Comrade obama is very worried about losing the dead vote this election.


9 posted on 06/21/2012 4:30:59 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: ColdOne

We ar enot a democray, we are a republic.


10 posted on 06/21/2012 4:31:47 PM PDT by stockpirate (Romney, Ann Coulter & our ruling republican elites, are Big Government socialists, Grand Ole Sociali)
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To: ColdOne

Well, I like my bill better... Only preppie who pay taxes and are citizens can vote. If I pay the bill, I should decide how the money is spent. Works for me.


11 posted on 06/21/2012 4:33:47 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (Anybody but Obama.)
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To: muawiyah

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2010/01/025367.php


12 posted on 06/21/2012 4:34:59 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: ColdOne
Jury duty is mandatory; why not voting If you are not registered to vote, most likely you are not on jury duty selection radar.
13 posted on 06/21/2012 4:36:02 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: ColdOne

oh the irony...

president “present” forces people to vote ...

(under threat of violence is the implication)

what an ass. GTFO of MY country, 0failure. at least I can prove I was born here... and have my OWN ssno


14 posted on 06/21/2012 4:36:58 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: ColdOne

yes. predictable move from the statists. mandatory voting was enforced in ancient and is again enforced in modern grece, today.

and the historians among us know how democracy ended in ancient grece, and how history is again repeating itself again.

our founders and framers were so incredibly wise.


15 posted on 06/21/2012 4:37:28 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: ColdOne

Mental picture —

Frosty pre-dawn on election day,

National Guard deuce-and-a-halfs parked on each block, as armed troopers go house-to-house, breaking down doors and herding every person of voting age, still in sleep attire, into the trucks...

While ‘patriotic’ music blares from loudspeakers....


16 posted on 06/21/2012 4:38:11 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: ColdOne

“The U.S. prides itself as the beacon of democracy”

Certain citizens thereof have, especially for the last century or so. But we are not a democracy, or didn’t used to be. We wouldn’t benefit from being more democratic, quite the contrary.


17 posted on 06/21/2012 4:39:39 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: ColdOne
In the 0bamanation, that which is not prohibited is mandatory ...

Yes, We CAN!!!!

18 posted on 06/21/2012 4:45:07 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ColdOne
In the 0bamanation, that which is not prohibited is mandatory ...

Yes, We CAN!!!!

Hail 0bama!!! Hail Victory!!! Hail Victory!!! Hail Victory!!!

19 posted on 06/21/2012 4:45:40 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: unkus; All

i remember lectures from my dad, NYPD for 23 years, on the greatness of America when i was a little kid...he talked about America giving one the freedom to vote for whomever they wanted- then to add a little drama he’d, say in reference to the then Soviet Union, “in other countries people are forced to vote for specific people (politicians) at gunpoint and if you don’t vote they throw you in jail”....

later on in life i laughed remembering these stories- guess my dearly departed dad wasn’t far off....


20 posted on 06/21/2012 4:46:57 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)
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To: muawiyah

ROFLMBO!!


21 posted on 06/21/2012 4:48:11 PM PDT by Jean2
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To: ColdOne

Saddam Hussein’s Iraq had mandatory voting laws and it worked out great for him.


22 posted on 06/21/2012 4:49:51 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: biggredd1

They better be careful what they wish for, it might just backfire on them.


23 posted on 06/21/2012 4:50:14 PM PDT by onthegulf
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To: muawiyah

Peter Orzag wrote a blurb for a book on healthcare that my organization just published.


24 posted on 06/21/2012 4:50:34 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: God luvs America

later on in life i laughed remembering these stories- guess my dearly departed dad wasn’t far off....


My Dad told us the same thing.

My Dad and your Dad would have been friends.


25 posted on 06/21/2012 4:50:50 PM PDT by unkus
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To: ColdOne

This is a FANTASTIC idea if it has one slightly small tweak: Make it MANDATORY ALL Taxpayers vote. Optional... or even illegal, if not. Then it’s a DEAL!


26 posted on 06/21/2012 4:52:27 PM PDT by C210N ("ask not what the candidate can do for you, ask what you can do for the candidate" (Breitbart, 2012))
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To: ColdOne

Okay, Mr. Orzag, just for fun, please point to the part of the constitution that allows for mandatory voting.


27 posted on 06/21/2012 4:57:37 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (I like Obamacare because Granny signed the will and I need the cash)
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To: ColdOne

Nationally, this would require a Constitutional Amendment. Though individual states could decide to to this.

Chances of this happening are between slim and none.


28 posted on 06/21/2012 5:01:25 PM PDT by cookcounty ("We're all born idiots, and we only get over that condition as we get less young." -J Goldberg)
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To: ColdOne

When voting ceases to be voluntary, it is no longer an exercise of choice but of coercion. The only rational choice in such a circumstance would be “none of the above”.


29 posted on 06/21/2012 5:08:19 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: andy58-in-nh

If there was mandatory voting and the first thing they did was clean the voter rolls, a democrat would never hold national office.

Republicans have 83 % of the counties in the US.


30 posted on 06/21/2012 5:13:01 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (ABO 2012)
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To: ColdOne

From the Times of Malta, 2/15/20009:

Countries and percentage turnout (last election)

Turkmenistan - 98.9
Rwanda - 96.5
Russia - 95.8
Australia - 95.1
Malta - 93.3
Burundi - 93.3
Greece - 93
Belarus - 92.9
Bahamas - 92

Anybody looking for evidence that a high percentage voter turnout leads to quality in a government or its elected officials is going to have a tough time making a case based on the list above.


31 posted on 06/21/2012 5:13:29 PM PDT by Stosh
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To: ColdOne

I wonder if it’s occurred to Orzag exactly what mood the voters who hadn’t intended to go to the polls but were forced to by the incumbent’s administration would be in? Something tells me they wouldn’t exactly be supporters of Orzag’s favored politicians.


32 posted on 06/21/2012 5:21:54 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: ColdOne

They already bus their voters, living and dead, to the polls and vote for them. What is the point of making it mandatory.


33 posted on 06/21/2012 5:25:12 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: ColdOne
Compulsory voting, as exists in Australia and more than two dozen other countries,

Really? I had no idea. So how does this work? Is there a name-to-vote tally, so that if you don't log a vote, there's an actual penalty involved? What does that mean for privacy of your vote? Any Australian FReepers out there who can shed some light on this?

34 posted on 06/21/2012 5:31:12 PM PDT by workerbee (We're not scared, Maobama -- we're pissed off!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Republicans have 83 % of the counties in the US.

Yes, but most of those counties are sparsely populated, while the beneficiary (non-taxpaying) class is vastly overrepresented in Democrat-dominated provinces. What we need to restore is the idea of voting as a vital privilege of citizenship and not an absolute right of those who happen to show up, and whose franchise derives not from a personal stake in self-governance but from a desire to obtain unearned benefits.

35 posted on 06/21/2012 5:40:07 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: ColdOne
VOTE OR DIE!


36 posted on 06/21/2012 5:47:12 PM PDT by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: ColdOne

Oh, really. Remind me again how many times the commie usurper voted when he was a senator. I suppose some are more equal than others.


37 posted on 06/21/2012 6:13:36 PM PDT by bgill
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To: ColdOne

Sorry, Ann Althouse has this right the other day, we also have a right NOT to vote.

They’ll have us all marching in lockstep: first the exercise, then the voting, then the eating broccoli.

It is an indication of how exceedingly stupid they are that they still think, THEY STILL THINK, that ANY of this is a good idea.


38 posted on 06/21/2012 6:30:41 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: ColdOne

So Obama is going to issue a Ukase (an edict by the Czar in Imperial Russia having the force of law) to mandate voting under penalty of say banishment to labor camps in Alaska?


39 posted on 06/21/2012 6:36:05 PM PDT by AU72
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To: ColdOne

This is interesting ColdOne, Thanks. Mandatory? These democRATs have a death wish of ever holding office again if everyone is made to vote. Wonder why democRATs no longer want to hold office? Would speculate though that would scare me.


40 posted on 06/21/2012 6:40:40 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: ColdOne

And another one suffering from brain rot due to lib fever.
He’s insane....like all the other ones.


41 posted on 06/21/2012 6:43:59 PM PDT by lgjhn23
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To: workerbee

They get fined. When I was stationed in Australia 30 years ago, it was a ten dollar fine if you didn’t vote.


42 posted on 06/21/2012 6:50:09 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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democrats don’t want everyone to vote because they would lose, they only want their people to vote and they want their people to count them..
I’m sure if the Cubans could have a true free and fair election and everyone had to vote, the commies would be out.

There is no way the democrats want this, it would be the end of everything they stole..


43 posted on 06/21/2012 6:50:49 PM PDT by newnhdad (Where will you be during the Election Riots of 2012/2013?)
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To: jocon307

Am beginning to rethink the thought of mandatory voting. If all not voting were to be marking ballots (as are) as uninterested or none of the listed on ballots, then nobody would be elected. This might be a good thing ... the nobody elected part.


44 posted on 06/21/2012 6:50:56 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: unkus


45 posted on 06/21/2012 6:52:39 PM PDT by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; one box left.)
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To: nascarnation

Oh, yeah, the guy has women thinking he’s real smart so he “rents it out for breeding purposes only” (or some bizarre idea like that). He’s a regular Stephen Hawking.


46 posted on 06/21/2012 6:54:01 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ColdOne
You have the right not to vote if you choose to. Liberals again want to take away one more right, all in the guise of something noble. If there is a form of tyranny practiced somewhere in the world, it is ridiculous that there are people who want to copy that over here.
47 posted on 06/21/2012 6:54:14 PM PDT by Moorings
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To: Uncle Ike

Ike, there will be a movie out soon (am certain) with this as one of the scenes. Knew you had to be a writer and your post is proof!


48 posted on 06/21/2012 6:59:25 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: dadfly

There’s a lengthy interaction among Sparta, Athens and Thebes regarding the utility of democracy ~ and finally the gays won when Macedonia took over Greece.


49 posted on 06/21/2012 7:00:53 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ColdOne
"Mandatory Voting"....

...or?

(not that I'm not going to
but it's MY choice, not yours, zero!)

50 posted on 06/21/2012 7:01:12 PM PDT by LUV W (Never forget...WE have THEM surrounded! ~ Rush Limbaugh)
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