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To: HonkyTonkMan

Not to say MIT couldn;t produce an introductory course “for the masses” if it wanted to. But it false to represent what they have there now as such.

Looked over their lecture notes for some other CS classes too. Their lecture notes skip over a lot of intermediate steps that 98% of students would need to see. In short, its not written for your anyone who doesn’t already know the subject matter (or is a genius to begin with).

Perhaps they regard real introductory material as beneath their brand. But, .....if I wanted to be conspiratorial, I’d say this was a honeypot to draw prospective students in, totally humiliate them, and then thereby reinforce why they need in-class instruction.


36 posted on 06/22/2012 7:47:24 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: rbg81; HonkyTonkMan
Not to say MIT couldn't produce an introductory course “for the masses” if it wanted to. But it false to represent what they have there now as such.

I am not sure that MITx misrepresents these courses as being "for the masses" or for the novices and they obviously can create the online introductory material ("CS-101") but that was not their intent, but it is a good demonstration of what is possible to do - technologically - with online education.

edX is supposed to be different in nature and purpose, but it doesn't have all the pieces of actual "formal education" either.

These are mostly the demos for now, but they show what the "future" may look like and what the marketplace can adopt; e.g., there are probably not too many non-online "traffic schools" left in the U.S., when only 10 years ago it was probably rare to find a "court-accredited" online school where the course and the test can be taken for the traffic tickets.

And if the likes of MIT, Harvard, Stanford, Wharton/UPenn et al won't make those available to fill the actual full curriculum, this will only open the door to "smaller" colleges to fill the void and become more relevant than just becoming places where the "lab and hands-on" work will be done and the tests will be taken but not much more.

The entire idea is that once online education becomes accepted as a way of getting accredited education and degrees, it will open the entire field to competition where some universities can leverage their well known names and reputations for usually expensive and elitist "quality education" to grab substantial market share in much less expensive and more egalitarian online education, rather than cede the market to the "periphery" - "... the market may well determine that it is more attractive to serve many students at a very low cost than to serve a few students at a very high cost."

With every new disrupting technological advance - such as Internet - there is always a question for the entrenched - to oppose the technology and try to stand in the way of it (usually using the government and "laws" the way music industry and DRMA tried to deal with digital music and P2P/torrent tech) or to be in the forefront of the technology and jump in front of the parade to become leaders and grab market share (the way Apple reinvented itself with iPod an iTunes).

Here are some interesting views from four "visionaries" on the availability and fiscal realities of college education as it exists today (not online, but relevant to the subject discussed).

From Do Too Many Young People Go to College? - WSJ, by Lauren Weber, 2012 June 21


37 posted on 06/22/2012 11:25:42 AM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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