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Gallup: For the first time, a majority of Americans say they’d vote for an atheist for president
Hotair ^ | 06/21/2012 | AllahPundit

Posted on 06/21/2012 8:38:44 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Alternate headline: "Blogger's plan to be president by 2040 still on track."

Note to The One: You can admit it now.

I've blogged a bunch of these Gallup polls over the years and my demographic has always been at the bottom of the barrel preference-wise. But things are improving: In 2007, just 45 percent said they'd vote for an atheist, then last year it crept up to 49 percent. Now we're over the hump at 54. I wonder why. It's not like the "new atheism" suddenly exploded onto the national scene over the past six months, and to hear believers tell it, the new atheism is more likely to alienate people than persuade them. Maybe, maybe not. What you're seeing here, I think, is the fruit of normalization: It's not so much that people are becoming more sympathetic to atheism (although that might be true) than that, as atheists become more visible culturally, people see for themselves that we’re not that weird or threatening. Acceptance of gays works along the same lines, of course, except that they’re further along than we are. For a vivid illustration of that, follow the Gallup link up top and check out the breakdown among different age groups. Young adults react to gays and atheists similarly; older adults, not so much. Note the trendlines in the table I posted above, too. Thirty-five years ago, atheists held a double-digit lead on this question over gays. Today, the opposite is true.

This isn’t much of a partisan issue, either:

I’d love to see the demographic split on Democrats who would and wouldn’t vote for a nonbeliever. If, say, 90 percent of limousine liberals are willing to vote for an atheist, how low must the percentage be among blue-collar Dems? Ah well. Suffice it to say, it’s still risky even for a secretly atheist liberal pol to admit his lack of faith publicly.

Oh, and as for the elephant in the room, 24 percent of Democrats admit that they won’t vote for a Mormon versus just 10 percent of Republicans who say so. Overall, 18 percent of adults say they wouldn’t; a year ago, it was 22 percent. The reason that number has shrunk is almost entirely due to GOPers becoming more comfortable with a Mormon nominee as Romney advanced through the primaries. Last year, 80 percent of Republicans said they’d be willing to vote for a Mormon. This year, 90 percent say so. Mitt’s made a difference to future elections even if he doesn’t win this one.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 666; atheism; atheist; president; worldisgoingbonkers

1 posted on 06/21/2012 8:38:55 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Simpletons don't realize, they already did, back in 2008.
2 posted on 06/21/2012 8:46:31 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes but will they re-elect one?


3 posted on 06/21/2012 8:47:51 PM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule (Lets institute SARAH-ia law in America!)
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To: SeekAndFind

54% of the people voted for a Black, Muslim, Communist, Gay, Atheist.


5 posted on 06/21/2012 8:49:48 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: SeekAndFind

I’d love to see the breakdown on this question between regular run-of-the-mill atheists and proselytizing “new” atheists.

I think a lot more people would be willing to vote for someone who says “I don’t believe in God, but hey, believe what you want”, than a guy who says “I don’t believe in God, and if you do, you’re a moron”.


6 posted on 06/21/2012 8:50:10 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: fkabuckeyesrule

Yes but will they re-elect one?
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Heh! Nice one! ;-)


7 posted on 06/21/2012 8:51:55 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Wings cannot be redistributed, they can only be broken. ~ Oleg Atbashian (People's Cube))
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To: SeekAndFind

Yeah, but would they vote for a proctologist?


8 posted on 06/21/2012 8:53:02 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (64% of Americans support amnesty and find the Wet DREAM Act "a big hit!" - New Bloomberg Poll)
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To: SeekAndFind

The thread directly beneath this one when I clicked on this link was a quote from a retiring Dem congressman: “The people have gotten dumber”. I think he may well be right, especially after reading this article. They certainly were in 2008.


9 posted on 06/21/2012 8:57:12 PM PDT by miele man
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To: SeekAndFind

For a novel idea lets vote in a guy who has the qualifications to be a good President of the U.S.


10 posted on 06/21/2012 9:00:07 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: SeekAndFind
I think it's hilarious that the person least likely to vote for an atheist is another atheist!


11 posted on 06/21/2012 9:01:33 PM PDT by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think a lot of people wouldn’t tell the truth on a poll like this because their honest answers wouldn’t be considered politically correct.

Case in point...have you noticed what has happened to JC Penny since their new marketing tactics pushing the Homosexual agenda.

People aren’t going to put themselves out there for something like this. Obviously, they voted for a black/white guy that “could speak well”. The rest is of this poll is an open question as far as I am concerned.


12 posted on 06/21/2012 9:01:33 PM PDT by BlessingsofLiberty (Remember Brian Terry...)
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To: SeekAndFind
I think it's hilarious that the person least likely to vote for an atheist is another atheist!


13 posted on 06/21/2012 9:01:54 PM PDT by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: Former Fetus

It takes a lot of faith to be an atheist.


14 posted on 06/21/2012 9:04:06 PM PDT by TigerClaws (He)
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To: SeekAndFind

The thread directly beneath this one when I clicked on this link was a quote from a retiring Dem congressman: “The people have gotten dumber”. I think he may well be right, especially after reading this article. They certainly were in 2008.


15 posted on 06/21/2012 9:06:50 PM PDT by miele man
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To: hinckley buzzard

RE: Simpletons don’t realize, they already did, back in 2008.

I thought Obama OPENLY declared himself to be a Christian...

BTW, Australia has had 2 openly self-declared atheists as prime ministers (both members of the Labor party <— their equivalent of our Democrats).

One was Bob Hawke in the late 80’s and early 90’s. The other one is the current Prime Minister — Julia Gillard.


16 posted on 06/21/2012 9:12:04 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Simpletons don't realize, they already did, back in 2008

He's a Muslim. Pure and simple. He even said so, 3 times and ABC news corrected him. Four years ago I would not see myself voting for anybody who was not a Christian. You can add me to that list of voters now (at least for this year).

I'll take an atheist over a Muslim any day. Sure do wish there was the option of voting for a Christian though.

17 posted on 06/21/2012 9:17:11 PM PDT by tsowellfan (Should Obama recuse himself from making any decisions on immigration?)
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To: Boogieman
I’d love to see the breakdown on this question between regular run-of-the-mill atheists and proselytizing “new” atheists.

I wouldn't vote for a proselytizing "new" atheist, and I'm an atheist. I can't stand the type, whatever they happen to be pushing. They all think they know better than I do what's good for me, and that would surely be reflected in their decisions in government.

But it's nice to see this. I've seen people say they'd NEVER vote for an atheist, no matter what, no matter how conservative his positions, no matter how moral of a life he's led. That means if the only opposition to the atheist in an election is a gun-grabbing, amoral communist Muslim, the conservative still wouldn't vote for the atheist. Insane.

18 posted on 06/21/2012 9:22:18 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: tsowellfan

Since agnostic was not on the list as distinct from atheist, it’s not possible to tell from this what kind of support a militantly atheistic candidate would get. But I’d say: Probably not a lot, compared to the agnostic.


19 posted on 06/21/2012 9:24:08 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou!)
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To: SeekAndFind
I thought Obama OPENLY declared himself to be a Christian.

Its common knowledge that Obama is a Atheist Muslim who only got married and had children to disguise his Gayness.

20 posted on 06/21/2012 9:38:51 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: SeekAndFind
OK, I'll play...


21 posted on 06/21/2012 9:42:17 PM PDT by LaybackLenny
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To: antiRepublicrat

Well, I won’t say I don’t take religion into account when I’m sizing up a candidate, but it’s only one of many things I look at. All things being the same, I’d vote for an atheist (not “new” atheist) before I’d vote for a Muslim or a “Christian” cult member, since the atheist is probably just skeptical, while the other two categories are either gullible or not critical thinkers.


22 posted on 06/21/2012 9:52:29 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: LaybackLenny

If she gave me a chance, I bet I could make her call out to God :)


23 posted on 06/21/2012 9:54:54 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: hinckley buzzard

That’s an excellent point. Frankly, I’d be more interested in knowing how many Americans would vote for a faithful Christian, one who wasn’t afraid to call homosexuality a sin, rightly called abortion infanticide, or believed it was wrong to use government to steal from their neighbors.


24 posted on 06/21/2012 10:01:10 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: Boogieman

“I’d vote for an atheist (not “new” atheist) before I’d vote for a Muslim or a “Christian” cult member, since the atheist is probably just skeptical, while the other two categories are either gullible or not critical thinkers.”

a) True Christians aren’t cult members (define that, please), and b) Muslims (at least fundamentalist, devout ones) are much, MUCH more than “gullible or not critical thinkers”!

Learn the Koran and their Prophet’s commands - to convert, subjugate or kill ALL “Infidels” (non-Muslims) until Islam and Sharia law reign supreme over the entire world. No exceptions, no reasoning. An apostate (any Muslim who leaves the “faith”) is to be executed. Lying whenever necessary (Taqiyya) to further their cause is also encouraged.

Contrary to what all our politically correct, ignorant or cowered politicians and media figures say, these are not the beliefs of “fringe, radical” Islam. They are the beliefs of true Islam, set forth by Muhammad.

It behooves everyone to get educated quickly on this. There are many great experts to read or listen to - Brigitte Gabriel, Steve Emerson, Jed Babbin, Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller, to name ja few. Most of them have to travel with bodyguards and/or employ full-time security.

So much for the “religion of peace”.


25 posted on 06/21/2012 10:51:41 PM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!!)
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To: Former Fetus
I think it's hilarious that the person least likely to vote for an atheist is another atheist!

I think you are misinterpreting the chart. It doesn't show who atheists would vote for. It does show that atheists are less popular than gays.

BTW I'm an atheist and would vote for an atheist.

26 posted on 06/21/2012 10:51:49 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: SeekAndFind

Just for the record. I’m not running.


27 posted on 06/21/2012 11:36:49 PM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: Former Fetus

What’s interesting is that apparently even the “idea” of a gay president didn’t even occur to people until 1978. And the whole idea of a black or atheist president wasn’t even asked in 1937.


28 posted on 06/21/2012 11:38:18 PM PDT by boop (I hate hippies and dopeheads. Just hate them. ...Ernest Borgnine)
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To: Former Fetus

That’s a list of various groups and percentage of voters who would vote for each one not a list of how many voters would vote for an atheist broken down by category.


29 posted on 06/22/2012 12:16:29 AM PDT by MattAMiller
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To: SeekAndFind

POTUS is a policy position, not a clerical one. If an Atheist was running for President, not making his blind faith an issue, I might vote for him depending on how he stacked up against the alternatives.
However, I would never knowingly vote for an Atheist to be the pastor of a church...although perhaps I might have to rethink that in regard to Obama’s old church...


30 posted on 06/22/2012 2:15:38 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: SeekAndFind
So basically, ANYONE IS BETTER THAN OBAMA!
31 posted on 06/22/2012 4:34:39 AM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: llandres

Notice I put the word Christian in quotes? That’s because I don’t think they are truly Christian if they are cult members.

As for Muslims, yes I think a lot of them are more than just gullible and not critical thinkers, but I didn’t want to get into a long drawn out thesis on Muslims when I was trying to make a simple statement comparing a few different groups. I’m well aware of their theology, behavior, and the contents of their “scriptures”.


32 posted on 06/22/2012 7:34:55 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: SeekAndFind

Me vote for atheist? I think I’ll pass, Tovarishch.


33 posted on 06/23/2012 5:37:41 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: SeekAndFind

I certainly would. Skepticism is a good trait in a politician. At least you know the person is being honest and not just throwing spiritual red meat to the evangelicals.


34 posted on 06/23/2012 5:45:38 AM PDT by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions anonymus by the ATF***)
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To: wideminded
I'm an atheist and would vote for an atheist.

Even if you don't have the gift of faith, for America's Commander in Chief you want a leader that has the God advantage. An atheist commander facing poor odds gives up quicker. The evolutionary purpose of religion is it provides a competitive advantage during tribal warfare. Christianity has the best track record for that.

35 posted on 06/23/2012 6:12:26 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: Reeses

Religion also caused most tribal warfare, so it’s a wash at best.


36 posted on 06/23/2012 7:50:48 AM PDT by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions anonymus by the ATF***)
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To: GunRunner
You've bought a leftist lie. Religion helps win war, it doesn't start them. War starts from envy which is caused by vanity/pride. Germany didn't start WWII over religion, but because they envied their neighbors land, and they envied the Jews success. Germany is a hotspot of envy. The German language has special words to describe many forms of it, for example Gluckschmerz, unhappiness at others success, and Schadenfreude, happiness at others failure. Neidkopf, envy heads over front doors, are architectural faces meant to scare away envy and the evil it brings.

The sand simians didn't fly our airliners into the World Trade Center out of religion. They did it out of envy over America's power and success, and a Muslim inferiority complex. It's no accident that they since built the world's tallest skyscraper after knocking ours down.

Leftists are driven by envy, so it's not surprising that they are quick to blame something other than envy for destruction, murder, war, and voting Democrat.

37 posted on 06/23/2012 10:57:09 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: Reeses

Al-Queda built the Burj Tower?! Funny. Tell me another one.


38 posted on 06/23/2012 5:08:39 PM PDT by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions anonymus by the ATF***)
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To: Boogieman

Okay - sorry for preaching to the choir :-)

Guess I’ve just heard the comparison so much from those who don’t know that I jumped in there.


39 posted on 06/23/2012 8:32:50 PM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!!)
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