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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/ct-edit-privilege-0622-jm-20120622,0,4057316.story ^ | 22 june 2012

Posted on 06/22/2012 6:01:02 AM PDT by rellimpank

Claiming executive privilege puts Obama in an awkward spot, defending secrecy about a botched operation

For months, House Republicans have tried to pry documents from theU.S. Department of Justice about Operation Fast and Furious, the spectacularly botched government operation that put guns in the hands of Mexican drug cartel thugs.

And for months, the department has responded with some, but not all, of the papers.

This week the action escalated into a full-fledged constitutional clash between the White House and Congress. President Barack Obama backed Attorney GeneralEric Holder's refusal to release the documents. Obama invoked executive privilege — a move to protect the documents under the reasoning that their release could harm the president's ability to obtain candid advice from his aides.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2deadfeds; 300deadmexicans; atf; banglist; brianterry; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; ice; jaimezapata; murdergate; obama; terry; zapata

1 posted on 06/22/2012 6:01:15 AM PDT by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank
The idea was to track the guns and snag some honchos in the Mexican drug cartels. The ATF lost track of guns that ultimately were used in crimes on both sides of the border. Most prominently, two of the guns were recovered after U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was killed in Arizona.

If this is how the media characterizes the scandal. Unless the GOP does something to educate the public it will die.

And I don't expect them to do anything. So F&F can be filed right next to Barack's relationships with terrorists & fraudsters, Bill Clinton's perjury, Hillary's cattle futures, Waco, Ruby Ridge, etc. etc.

2 posted on 06/22/2012 6:08:16 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: rellimpank

*bangs head against keyboard*

They’re reporting on it, but they’re trying to frame it like nothing sinister was happening. Unreal!


3 posted on 06/22/2012 6:09:30 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rellimpank

It wasn’t botched. It was going as planned.

What changed is that the op was found out. Botched my ash.


4 posted on 06/22/2012 6:20:18 AM PDT by Principled (It's not enthusiasm for Romney, it's grim determination to remove Hussein)
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To: rellimpank

DId you see the video and thread Wednesday of the 2009 news conference?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=L54gOgJxIRQ

Background by Rush?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2897538/posts

Zapata family filed suit?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-57457277-10391695/ice-agents-family-files-wrongful-death-claim-against-doj/?tag=socsh

PLENTY out there for the MSM to cover /s


5 posted on 06/22/2012 6:22:51 AM PDT by hoosiermama ( Obama: " born in Kenya.".. he's lying now or then?)
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To: rellimpank
This is a much better editorial than I expected from the staff of the Chicago Tribune - Obama's hometown paper. While there is some defensive "framing" of the underlying Fast & Furious operation itself, the editorials decimates the Obama Administration's claim of Executive Privilege - with the clear implication that the shielded evidence might endanger Obama himself.

The White House must be furious at the Tribune over this column. But with just over four months to go before the election and Obama rapidly self-destructing, even the MSM is starting to loosen the knots that have lashed them to Obama's mast. Despite what their rigged polls are telling us, they do know the score.

6 posted on 06/22/2012 6:22:51 AM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: Principled
What changed is that the op was found out.

That was the 'botched' part.

7 posted on 06/22/2012 6:23:48 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: skeeter
The idea was to track the guns and snag some honchos in the Mexican drug cartels.

No, the idea was to NOT track the guns - they didn't even try.

The ATF lost track of guns that ultimately were used in crimes on both sides of the border. Most prominently, two of the guns were recovered after U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was killed in Arizona.

The ATF didn't "lose track" of guns, they never tracked them.

In Bush's op, Mexican LE was involved and they really tried to track - but in odumbo's op, no tracking was ever attempted. The idea was to use violence resulting from these guns as rationale for gun control.

The bastards let people die from guns - so they could attempt to control guns.

8 posted on 06/22/2012 6:25:04 AM PDT by Principled (It's not enthusiasm for Romney, it's grim determination to remove Hussein)
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To: rellimpank

It’s like watching a car slide down an an icy street. At some point, you just sit back and enjoy the collision.


9 posted on 06/22/2012 6:26:41 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: rarestia; All

The comments are pretty good, though. If a source allows comments, a lot of truth gets out.

Do not trust a source that does not allow comments.


10 posted on 06/22/2012 6:32:47 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: skeeter; All

The GOP cannot educate the public except by using the media. The MSM is in the tank for Obama. That leaves it up to us, the new media, to spread the word. This scandal would never have seen the light of day except for the new media.

I am seeing lots of comments on articles where the MSM tries to spin this to cover for the administration. The word is getting out, but it takes more time than we are used to with the MSM.


11 posted on 06/22/2012 6:36:30 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: rellimpank

Can’t you just hear the king now, “hey eric, it’ll be alright. The little people must do what I command”.


12 posted on 06/22/2012 6:43:04 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: rellimpank

MURDERGATE

To the more than half of America that only half pays attention to the news, "Fast and Furious" is still a B-rated action movie.

This scandal will gain much more traction if we shift the meme over to MURDERGATE.

When liberals whine and ask why we call it Murdergate, just say, "Because nobody was murdered at the Watergate."

13 posted on 06/22/2012 6:50:38 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Principled

There’s more to this than gun control.

This is shaping up to be a dope for guns operation.


14 posted on 06/22/2012 6:52:19 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: rellimpank

“Claiming executive privilege puts Obama in an awkward spot...”

Meaning that revealing what’s in those documents would be worse for Obama. He wouldn’t put himself in an awkward position if he had a better one.


15 posted on 06/22/2012 8:15:11 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (God-issued, not govt-issued.)
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To: Travis McGee

Excellent!


16 posted on 06/22/2012 8:15:46 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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