Guidelines on Hatred and the Religion Forum

Religion Moderator | June 22, 2012 | Religion Moderator

[JCBreckenridge]

“Catholics worship Mary” is not making it personal.

It’s also a lie. Lying about religions you hate is permitted on the religion forum?

The statement should be prefaced as:

“I believe that Catholics worship Mary”.

[Salvation]

Totally right. But many people do not choose to make “I” statements, even though they are preferrable.

[muawiyah]

I have an old friend who joined the LDS because he considered along the lines of purchasing a rather exclusive life insurance program ~ that would possibly feed you and house you in case of total economic collapse.

Pretty sure he's still a Trinitarian though.

[Notwithstanding]

Some people love to discuss sects with perverts ad nauseum.

[Jeff Chandler]

Could you add a rule against rehashing the same arguments over and over for years on end? Reading most open discussions on the Religion forum makes me feel like Bill Murray in Groundhog Day.

[afraidfortherepublic]

I think that it is anti Christian to express hatred at all. You can dislike, or disapprove, someone’s actions, but hatred is a very strong word.

[muawiyah]

I've found that in dealing with the (old) Apostolic Old Lutheran Church, Faith Assembly, Church of the First Born, General Assembly, and combinations of all those words and more ~ you cannot use the expression "the church teaches" because, as it turns out, the church does not teach them to stay away from medical care and doctors.

Rather it's the deacons and elderswho "teach that".

[afraidfortherepublic]

Even Catholics have a hard time believing in the Trinity. The best we can do is to treat it as a MYSTERY and just accept it. They cannot explain it, or so I was told by the priest who gave me my convert classes.

[Osage Orange]

Can we hate Liberals like Reid, Pelosi, Frank, and Obama?

Cuz, that's really what I want to do!!!

[DaxtonBrown]

Heck, I currently have a Mormon business associate and work under a Jack Mormon broker. To say we Inmans are anti-Mormon vs anti-Mormonism is quite the stretch.

[metmom]

The RM does an awesome and often thankless job.

I can just see him coming home and logging onto FR and sighing, wondering what he’s going to encounter THIS time.

One point I’d like to make is that disagreeing with another belief system is not necessarily *hate*. What I’ve seen too often is that pejorative is too freely thrown about and at someone who is pointing out what they see as errors in another belief system.

It most often occurs when a member of said belief system has nothing left in his arsenal to contest what is being pointed out, and so resorts to accusations of *hate* to deflect the discussion or discredit the source.

IMO, at that point, one can invoke Godwin’s Law and declare a win.

[sayuncledave]

I just wanted to say thanks, and that your words are well-expressed.

[greyfoxx39]

Could you add a rule against rehashing the same arguments over and over for years on end? Reading most open discussions on the Religion forum makes me feel like Bill Murray in Groundhog Day.

There are thousands of views of FR over a period of time. Often we see someone new responding to our posts that hadn't seen them before.

In closing, see my tagline. The mormon missionaries have a set program of the message they give out.

[glock rocks]

Thanks for the ping, Salvation.

My immediate family is Catholic, and my extended family is Mormon on both sides. This is one of my few ventures into the Religion Forum. I take myself at face value to be Christian. I can appreciate the RM’s monumental task of herding the fervent cat herd on this forum.

What strikes me as odd is that hatred is being codified as a somehow acceptable value.

2nd Corinthians tells me otherwise. Hope, faith, and charity.

I don’t care to join in the rampage against any brother or sister. I personally wish God’s blessings on all. (Phil 4:19,20)

OTOH, I came up around horses and dogs and open ranges and mountains. I might have translated The Word into my experience, dyslexic and all, and missed a bit of the preaching. Pray for me. I’m praying for all y’all.

[greyfoxx39]

What strikes me as odd is that hatred is being codified as a somehow acceptable value

WHO codified it? How? When? Source, please.

This is just another example of the loose use of "hatred/hate" on FR.

[glock rocks]

I was referring to the RM’s post: “It is ok to express hatred towards” ...

[glock rocks]

Gosh, I guess I’d better ping you to post 96. Didn’t know that I’d violated greyfoxx’s space enough to call in the boss. Sorry to waste your time actually.

[Religion Moderator]

The best way to avoid the phenomenon is to read the article and the first page or so of comments. The longer a Religion Forum stays active, the more in reduces to the usual arguments among the usual posters.

[Salvation]

Another thing from Scripture -- from the Gospel for June 14th? Is anger or hatried even OK?

According to what Jesus says in Matthew 5, it is not.

Gospel Mt 5:20-26

Jesus said to his disciples:
"I tell you, unless your righteousness surpasses that
of the scribes and Pharisees,
you will not enter into the Kingdom of heaven.

"You have heard that it was said to your ancestors,
You shall not kill; and whoever kills will be liable to judgment.
But I say to you, whoever is angry with his brother
will be liable to judgment,
and whoever says to his brother,
'Raqa,' will be answerable to the Sanhedrin,
and whoever says, "You fool," will be liable to fiery Gehenna.
Therefore, if you bring your gift to the altar,
and there recall that your brother
has anything against you,
leave your gift there at the altar,
go first and be reconciled with your brother,
and then come and offer your gift.
Settle with your opponent quickly while on the way to court with him.
Otherwise your opponent will hand you over to the judge,
and the judge will hand you over to the guard,
and you will be thrown into prison.
Amen, I say to you,
you will not be released until you have paid the last penny."

[greyfoxx39]

The Religion Mod's comment was not a blanket "codifying" of hatred, as your post seems to claim, but that "expressing hatred of a belief" is within bounds on an open thread.

There is a BIG difference.

IMO, this is something that happends almost daily on FR by selective editing...insinuations that someone said something they did not say.

As to my pinging JR, he has the final say on what in the way of "hatred" is allowed on FR.