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Turkey: Syria Shot Down Air Force Jet
Voice of America ^ | 6/22/2012

Posted on 06/22/2012 3:53:57 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

Turkey says Syrian forces have shot down one of its air force jets.

After a two-hour security meeting, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan's office said the warplane that disappeared over the Mediterranean Sea Friday was shot down by Syria. The statement said the two pilots remain missing.

The prime minister's office said Turkey will decide on how to respond to the incident but did not elaborate.

Turkey has joined nations such as the U.S. in saying that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad should step down because of the uprising in his country.

Meanwhile, U.N. Envoy for Syria Kofi Annan told reporters in Geneva Friday that “countries of influence” need to persuade both sides in Syria to “stop the killing and start the talking.” He said it is time for countries to “raise the level of pressure” on both Syria's government and the opposition to end violence in the country.

Mr. Annan said Iran should be “part of the solution” for bringing peace to Syria. Russia has pushed for Iran's involvement in resolving the conflict, while the U.S. has said Iran should not be involved.

The U.N. special envoy's comments came after Syrian activists said 26 men reported to be pro-government “shabiha” militia fighters were killed in an ambush in the northern Aleppo province.

Rami Abdelrahman, the head of the Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, told VOA on Friday that he received a video showing the bloodied bodies of the men piled on the side of a road.

“Over 26 people following the Syrian regime were killed west of Aleppo… this morning the people there said these people are from shabiha. We cannot confirm this, but we have received a video with over 26 bodies.”

In an apparent reference to the same incident, Syrian state media reported Friday that at least 25 people were killed by “armed terrorists” in the same region outside Aleppo.

The Observatory said it could not confirm whether the victims were civilians, as Syrian state media reported, or shabiha militants, who have been blamed for a series of deadly attacks on civilians in recent months.

The group also reported fresh clashes Friday between government troops and rebels in the flashpoint city of Homs, where hundreds of civilians are believed to be trapped and unable to find shelter.

The International Committee of the Red Cross aborted its attempt to evacuate civilians from Homs Thursday after encountering close gunfire. The ICRC said it will attempt to go back to the area as soon as conditions permit.

The United Nations says up to 1.5 million Syrians are now in need of humanitarian assistance as it warns of a deteriorating situation in Syria. The figure reported by the U.N. Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs is up from an earlier estimate of 1 million.

SOUNDBITE: Turkey's Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan (in Turkish)

Reuters: “We have no word on the pilots, but Turkish helicopters as well as four assault boats are searching for the pilots along with Syrian ships. We will see the outcome of this joint search operation.''

SOUNDBITE: Turkey's Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan (in Turkish)

APTN “Regarding the loss of our plane, I cannot say it was downed, without definite information. It is not possible to say that. But soon, we will have a (security) meeting in Prime Minister's Office. ”

SOUNDBITE: Erdogan (in Turkish)

APTN “The incident supposedly happened south of Hatay, 13 kilometres away from Latakia. Regarding our pilots, we do not have any information, but at the moment four of our gunboats and some Syrian gunboats are carrying out a joint search there (for the pilots). And we will see what kind of results this search will give us.”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bloggersandpersonal; erdogan; israel; jetshotdown; russia; syria; syriawar; turkey; turkeyafjet; waronterror

1 posted on 06/22/2012 3:54:01 PM PDT by bruinbirdman
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To: bruinbirdman

If the Turks retaliate the Syrians are toast, fighting is sport to the Turks.


2 posted on 06/22/2012 4:03:04 PM PDT by Rumplemeyer (The GOP should stand its ground - and fix Bayonets)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks bruinbirdman.
3 posted on 06/22/2012 4:08:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: bruinbirdman

Turkey is a member of NATO.
The NATO charter says and attack on one is an attack on all.
Obama will join Turkey in whacking Syria in October.


4 posted on 06/22/2012 4:09:49 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Da Bro' Gotsta Go!)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

Wasn’t the plane in Syria’s airspace?


5 posted on 06/22/2012 4:14:58 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

Nevermind, my bad.


6 posted on 06/22/2012 4:18:15 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: EEGator
I don't think anyone is saying positively yet. I read al Jezeera to see what their view was and more confused than ever!

One thing I did read over there...supposedly the FSA seized several anti-aircraft missiles from an air force base near Damascus. Many Syrian regulars defected as well. What if the FSA, currently involved in combat near Latakia (sight of shoot down) mistook the Turkish F-4 for a Syrian aircraft and brought it down?

Fingers pointing in all directions. Methinks the brothers Assad better have their personal jet fueled, with pilot on 5 minute stand-by...

7 posted on 06/22/2012 4:21:24 PM PDT by donozark (Rainbow Herbicides: Better living through modern chemistry...)
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To: Army Air Corps

ping


8 posted on 06/22/2012 4:21:24 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

With the breakdown of talks between Pakistan and the US over military supplies to Afghanistan, Russia has near total control over what can be shipped to the US troops in Afghanistan. That fact will enter into the calculus of what to do in Syria.


9 posted on 06/22/2012 4:22:11 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: donozark

I’m totally confused as well. I thought I read earlier it was in Syrian airspace.

The 5 minute standby is a good idea.

The whole M.E. is not looking good. (not that it ever does)


10 posted on 06/22/2012 4:30:25 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: EEGator

Its not nice to shoot down Turkeys airplanes. They take a dim view of such things.


11 posted on 06/22/2012 4:37:04 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: donozark

“Methinks the brothers Assad better have their personal jet fueled, with pilot on 5 minute stand-by...”

My money’s on the Assad’s and here’s why.

Khofi Annan is the UN clown in charge of the mission. When he’s involved it never turns out well. He will fail miserably just like he did in Rwanda.

Egypt is getting ready to break out again. When it does, Syria becomes a sideshow.

And as a previous poster noted, the Russian’s are controlling our supply routes to Afghanistan. Will we jeopardize them in order to put an unknown entity in Syria into power?

But then again,who knows what the little prince in the White Hut will decree.


12 posted on 06/22/2012 4:38:56 PM PDT by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

I don’t think Syria wants any part of Turkey.


13 posted on 06/22/2012 4:44:34 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Stormdog
I do not disagree with a thing you say. I was merely ruminating. Putting things "out there." There are so many "whatifs" re:Syria. Many, many factions. Many, many diverse interests. One never knows how these things will shake out.

I do not think Russia will give up its base at Tartus. Not easily. And yet they will not fight for another muslim country I don't think.

And yet, I've watched videos on al Gezeera showing what appear to be, G-3 (CETME) almost NIB being carried by FSA. Must be coming from Turkey? And we pretty much know Turkey is training and "re-grouping" former Assad military people.

All of Assad's equipment will do him little good if he doesn't have the man power to operate it. And he doesn't have Mali Mercs like Qadaffi did.

I just do not want to see any US/Allied troops fighting in another Third World lash-up.

14 posted on 06/22/2012 4:55:43 PM PDT by donozark (Rainbow Herbicides: Better living through modern chemistry...)
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To: donozark

“I just do not want to see any US/Allied troops fighting in another Third World lash-up.”

At least I know now that there is at least two of us who feel that way.


15 posted on 06/22/2012 5:24:29 PM PDT by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: Rumplemeyer

They will make short work of them if the Russkies don’t jump in. The Turks were the only people who could keep Arab Muslims in line..


16 posted on 06/22/2012 5:35:05 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: bruinbirdman
Meanwhile, U.N. Envoy for Syria Kofi Annan told reporters in Geneva Friday that “countries of influence” need to persuade both sides in Syria to “stop the killing and start the talking.”

Besides Keith Olbermann - is there anybody more irrelavant than Kofi Annan?

17 posted on 06/22/2012 5:39:51 PM PDT by capydick (''Life's tough.......it's even tougher if you're stupid.'')
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To: Stormdog

Re: At least I know now that there is at least two of us who feel that way.

Make that three of us who do not want US involvement. OIF vet


18 posted on 06/22/2012 6:12:06 PM PDT by jesseam
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To: jesseam

Another vote against US involvement.


19 posted on 06/22/2012 6:20:42 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: no-to-illegals

Depending on how Turkey reacts this could give the Turkish F-16 pilots a chance to get some kills courtesy of the Syrian AF.


20 posted on 06/24/2012 6:14:32 PM PDT by BigWillyG
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21 posted on 06/25/2012 5:22:41 AM PDT by SJackson (As a black man, you know, Barack could get shot going to the gas station, M Obama)
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To: BigWillyG
Am worried for our Sons and Daughters if this goes hot. Everyone (and it may not be true) wants to come to this theater. Know for a fact, America has been asked to help the islamists. Know for a fact, Russia has a base there. Other facts are known, and there are numerous (too many to count) unknowns. My true thought is I should say off these types of threads for awhile. I will rest (at night) easier.
22 posted on 06/25/2012 5:44:55 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: bruinbirdman

If ever there was a pass the popcorn moment...


23 posted on 06/25/2012 12:46:58 PM PDT by dervish (ABO)
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