Posted on 06/22/2012 5:33:17 PM PDT by scottjewell
I’m all for gays getting married if they want. What I’m against if forcing churches to marry them against their own beliefs and I’m against the federal government acknowledging gay marriage for more than one reason.
One of those reasons is that if the US Government recognized gay marriage then a gay could marry a gay in another country and that foreign gay would be able to get a free ticket to live in the USA.
To tell you the truth, I’m against staight marriage licenses just as much. I do not think we should have to get the permission of government to get married. Because of this, it’s easy for me to argue against gay marriage to a pro gay marriage activist.
A typical conversation between me and a gay marriage activist goes like this:
Gay Activist: “Do you support the newly proposed gay marriage law?”
Me: “No”
Gay Activist: “May I ask you why?”
Me: “I do not believe that anybody should seek permission, recognition or legitimacy from the government to be able to get married. It’s none of their business”
Gay Activist: “Yes but what if a partner is in the hospital? How can there be visitation rights if they are not married?”
Me: “My dad was in the hospital and I didn’t need to marry him to go see him.”
I am surprised your comment hasn’t been removed, but it hits the nail right on the head.
The scatologial consequence of such an act is disgusting.
Even worse the act that used to be performed almost exclusively by Homosexuals is now becoming more popular between heterosexuals to the point that many women today are expected to submit.
No different than staunch anti-abortion advocate Al Gore becoming pro-choice when he joined the Clintonistas.
Within the last few years the same people who would refuse or mock God or anyone's practicing their flavor of religion now demand to be included in the same institute. The hypocrisy is stunning.
If these people want to do things in secret, in private, it's really none of the governments business or mine. God will sort them out. Better if people went back in the closet.
If you gave 20 bucks to everyone who publicly said that gay marriage was an abomination, things would change pretty quickly. :)
I think of it like an actor who comes out supporting gays. They’re most likely just trying to get more jobs including Broadway.
Yes, we replaced the link to the blog with a link to the original New York Time's editorial. We also removed the name of the blog which you had placed in the source blank. Your use of the blog's name as source, instead of the actual name of the original publisher gave false attribution of a New York Times editorial to a blog. We replaced the blog's name with the actual source of The New York Times editorial.
Since the author you attributed as "Rod Dreher" was not the name of the author who wrote the New York Times editorial, we replaced Rod Dreher with the name of the actual author.
The blog's title "Anti-Same Sex Marriage Giant Falls" did not match the original New York Times title and also had to be replaced.
I hope that clarifies things for you.
I see your points. I still feel the social recognition perhaps has a larger meaning though for many. And it is within this social aspect which the gays demand to have their equality.
I agree 1000%
Indeed, it does clarify. Thank you , kindly!
I suppose if you pretend that there is no God, and try to fly by the seat of your pants and decide to worship the creature more than the Creator, you can come up with this Roman's 1 bit of tortured reasoning.
The issue is not what is 'popular' in today's society, the issue is our Holy God, and man trapped in sin. The Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, came to save sinners. That is the Good News, but sinners are not to wallow in sin. If Christ is their Lord they will seek to please him, and they will endeavor to 'go and sin no more'.
So when this guy says that he 'gives up', and that he is going to 'support' homosexual lust, and ungodly unions - he is just saying these lost souls aren't worth saving. Mr. Blakenhorn would rather garner the praise of the world and damn people to hell, rather than endure the taunts of the world and perhaps save one soul from the fire...
Not even in Sodom and Gomorrah did they promote gay marriage.
But then again, we are so much more enlightened and advanced and we are such a caaaaaaaring society.
Exactly! And that's just another of the other reasons why I'm against it. But it's not the argument I choose when approached by a gay activist. :)
Press release from National Organization for Marriage:
“Retreating from the debate is not a path we or our followers will ever travel.”—Brian Brown, NOM president—
“Washington, D.C.— Reacting to an op-ed written by family advocate David Blankenhorn and published online today by the New York Times, the National Organization for Marriage (NOM) said that Blankenhorn’s decision to “accept” gay marriage even while maintaining his beliefs that traditional marriage is a unique public good is likely a result of continual vilification, but is not a path for Americans to follow.
“David Blankenhorn has suffered extraordinary vilification and abuse as a result of his writings in support of marriage as the union of husband and wife and his testimony in defense of California’s Proposition 8,” said Brian Brown, NOM’s president. “Still, even in announcing today that he feels he personally has come to ‘accept’ same-sex marriage, without supporting or condoning it, he expressly stands by every word he said in those writings and that testimony. He says his view of what marriage truly is, and of its indispensable social role, has not changed. I am certain that the commitment of the tens of millions of Americans who are working hard to maintain marriage as God designed it won’t change, either.”
Blankenhorn said in his article that he was stepping aside from the gay marriage fight to focus on other issues in part because of acceptance of gay marriage by elites. Last May he publicly opposed the North Carolina marriage amendment, but voters overwhelmingly passed it by a 61-39% margin.
“It is sad when a powerful and compelling voice goes silent—especially when the topic is one as important as marriage, and where the silence is not motivated by a change of view about the nature of marriage but rather a seeming succumbing to the continual pressure of the cultural elite,” Brown said. “Yet retreating from the debate is not a path we or our followers will ever travel, for retreat will surely lead to defeat. We intend to fight on, and fight harder, for the truth—that marriage is the unique union of a man and a woman.”
NOM also took issue with Blankenhorn’s statement in the article that many Americans oppose same-sex marriage out of “animus” for gays and lesbians.
“It is very unfortunate that he seemed to suggest in his op ed that many people who hold a view of marriage identical to his own hold it for dishonorable reasons,” Brown said. “That’s not fair or true, and he shouldn’t have said it. Still, we appreciate that he continues to stand by his past writings and testimony.”
NOM’s president said that Blankenhorn’s new position would ripple throughout elite society and the media, but is not likely to have a material impact on the outcome of the debate.
“The American people know in their heart what marriage is, and they have expressed that in the form of over 70 million votes cast in 32 consecutive state elections to preserve marriage as the union of one man and one woman,” Brown said. “I don’t expect that Mr. Blankenhorn’s change of views will have any more impact in the national debate than they did in North Carolina where voters overwhelmingly supported a marriage protection amendment despite opposition from Mr. Blankenhorn.””
If you believe in Gay Marriage and Polygamous Marriage, you must believe in Adult Incestuous Marriage.
To not embrace all forms of Marriage that the mind can imagine is to live a life of Hypocrisy.
In Muslim Countries, people believe that Adult Men can Marry Children younger than 10 years old. When is Obama (or a Liberal Federal Judge) going to Rule that not allowing the same here is Religious Bigotry?
Yes, it is a slippery slope. And the gays have insisted over and over again that granting them marriage would not lead to polygamy. Yet in Canada where they granted gay marriage, there are already movements to legalize polygamy. You open a door with gay marriage-—and you have to accept whatever comes through.....
Person #1 - I believe in Gay Marriage.
Person #2 - So you believe in Polygamy and Incestuous Marriage too?
Person #1 - Of course not.
Person #2 - Why, do you hate Polygamists and Siblings / Parents / Cousins that love each other? Are you a Bigot or do you think you are better than those people? Are you lacking compassion and empathy? It's really easy to shred a Liberal argument, on anything.
Giving public recognition of perversion is tantamount to approval of fornication.
GOD instituted marriage, not man. He set a pattern: male and female.
Jesus says...
Mt 19
3 ¶ The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?
4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
In the context of marriage, Jesus says...
Mark 10
6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.
There is no marriage instituted and approved by God outside that pattern.
For all his pride, man actually doesn’t make marriage: God does.
Any Christian “surrendering” to the world’s view of homosexual love is surrendering to false doctrine.
1 John 2
15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
It’s a clear choice: love the world in its wickedness or love God?
This really scares me. What will become of us in education who don’t buckle under. I suppose we’ll lose our jobs to make an example.
Yes, kickassconservative: But the scary thing is, those other groups WILL make this argument at some point, and the liberals WILL take them seriously.
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