Skip to comments.Obama & Holder Ordered Gunwalking Operation
Posted on 06/22/2012 8:31:18 PM PDT by Gargantua
Back in 2009 the White House held a news conference announcing their new plans for taking action against the Mexican drug cartels. President Obama's spokesman lays out the plan ordered by President Obama and Attorney General Holder.
Two questions arise rather quickly:
1) How can they now claim not to have had any idea about this badly bungled operation until it was made public following the Brian Terry murder?
2) Why are Darrell Issa and the rest of the GOP Congress allowing this slow-waltz of pathalogical liars to parade before these hearings when they have access to the same vidoe you are about to watch?
One thing is absolutely certain: Something stinks in Denmark.
It’s not just Brian Terry. There is MORE:
Remember the Dept of Customs guy who got zapped by some non-Sinaloa cartel guys down in Mexico about 2 years ago? They said it was random, relying on the public image of Mexico as generally very dangerous, which is true. But in fact the reason for the kiling was specifically BECAUSE of this Obama/Sinaloa agreement:
You see, apparently how things go down in Mexico is this; when word gets out to cartels that some entity does important business with ONE cartel, the general view of the others is that that entity is more or less an extension of THAT cartel. See?
And apparently that’s the view even if the deal seeker is the US Dept of Customs. The other drug scums think, “they are proto-SINALOA guys...”
So they killed him.
Now, that is bad enough. But what if instead you were a lowly badged gringo schmuck simply doing what you were told, down there, and you didn’t KNOW of the arrangement? That is just a GUESS of mine —that the secret agreement might be so sensitive that for security and political reasons they might not tell the guys low on the totem pole.
That would mean whenever you drove around town down there you might be passing drug guys on the street who saw you as a RIVAL drug dealer AND YOU DID NOT EVEN KNOW THAT.
I mean you would NOT KNOW you were in danger, you would not know to use stealth. It would be like finding out mid-way during a cocktail party that you’d been nude that whole time.
So it’s NOT one officer killing, that BP agent —it’s TWO.
Politics Chicago style.
Obama and Holder should both be doing time.
I’m not convinced they even thought it that far through...
The big thing was to support the myth that US arms and gunshops were the problem. Field agents wherever, undercover or what were not the concern.
When children are in charge you get childish results.
Not only should they both be behind bars, but Congress has the irrefutable, unambiguous video proof of this fact. So why the slow dance with the lying Executive Branch tap-dance teamPrezzy Barrio Bummer and Eric “Dick” Holder?
The media continues to run interference as usual again.
The FEDS have recently been supporting the Sinola cartel with the most undercover agents and guns, and have already opened up ARIZONA to them to use as an illegal trafficking corridor.
The deal is which ever gang wins, controls drug traffic/illegal immigrant traffic/general mayhem/rape of young girls , and gets Arizona, all under the approval and monitoring (payoffs) of the US and MEXICAN government.
The goal was chiseling away at the 2nd Ammendment, as you said, but the mission was NEVER to track guns or cartels, but to wait for the body count, to obtain blood shed and dead bodies, use the numbers of dead, (the greater the better), attach a story to it, and throw it out to US media to drive it home. 300 Mexicans had to die, with our guns, for an agenda to advance the case to get guns in the USA.
The depth of determination to get guns is scary. The ATF and the Justice Dept were tracking no one, including the cartels. They were instead waiting to phone it in.
How would the administration claim their AG stopped an operation he didn't know about?
I agree 100%. 15-20% of the country (the hardcore Leftist Loonbags) will shriek that it's an "election year stunt," but the timing can't be helped, and the consequences of inaction could not be more dire. They have to strike now, and be relentless and committed.
Problem is, they won't. I'm sending this video to Sarah, to see if she'll get on up the soapbox about it. This cannot be swept under the rug!
The arrogance and imperious disregard for the Law here is staggering.
Link you requested ...
None of this would have ever happened if anyone would have gone to the trouble of actually vetting the Kenyan usurper.
Video says it all. Guilty! Lets move on to the sentencing.
If the Communist Party USA had a group vacation trip and the plane crashes year before they figure out how to get Obama in the much lofted position to convert America to a socialized state I would think we would not have had any of the current problems in America.
All roads lead back to the CPUSA.
CPUSA concocted the strategy with the results being an event or events across America that would polarize the nation against the 2nd Amendment, removing the guns from Americans.
Obama and the CPUSA NEEDED Obamacare plus Fast and Furious.
1.Obama reportedly saying he had a secret 'plan' or program to enhance gun control (reduce gun rights)
2. Obama or admin made statements about gun seizures. Hillary part of statements. Found on trains?
Sorry, it was in 2009, or thereabouts.
How many other Obama orchestrated secret operations are underway in order to change policy through public outrage? With lefties the end always justifies the means regardless of how many people die in the process.
THIS VID YOU POSTED CONFUSES THE ISSUE. It is about GUNRUNNER, a legit op started under bush. It was perverted under obama to F&F.
A lot of them are out there concerning Gunrunner, like finding the Ogden video and the $10M funding are proof Obama ordered guns walked. No--those are only proof that a known project was authorized by the government--not in secret, but with press releases and everything.
GUNRUNNER has been well known. For a long time. See those "Journalist Guide" icons in the left margin of my WarOnGuns blog? Guess where I got the cover art to modify from? And Gunrunner is NOT synonymous with Fast and Furious--that was a component strategy presented as a sting op. that turned out to be something else.
Mike and I are concerned with gunWALKING--where the stated mission was deviated from with the criminal conspiracy we now see unfolding.
Suddenly I am being hit with a wave of tips about the old known stuff like it's being discovered for the first time--for many, I'm sure it is. I don't know if the genesis of that originates from people not knowing the history of this and jumping in to be helpful and spread the word, or if there is intent to sow confusion and misdirection.
Either way, it does not help, and can actually hurt. A lot.
Take another look at that video. Something is goofy at about 58 or 59 seconds. Like there has been some editing or whatever.
This is very interesting also-
The only thing that went wrong (bungled) was that they got caught! These guns were never tracked - that was the point of the operation: to increase the number of guns crossing the border to attack our Second Amendment Rights! PERIOD!
Maybe Obama worked a deal with the cartels to provide them guns???
The only thing I dont Understand on this Video is That These people are talking about this Gun Running stuff but they Claim Mexico was Involved with tracking these Guns,According to Mexican Officials Now they Claim they were not Notified of Guns being Brought into their Country under Fast and Furious. According to this Video something was surely Going on and Both the White House and Justice and everyone else sure Knew something was happening so what the hell did Mexico at this Time THINK was going to Happen?
I would like to hear from Mexico People who were in Charge at this time speak as to what this whole operation being discussed here was SUPPOSED to entail. Were they supposed to be tracking these Guns,which they Obviously Did Not? Someone is sure Lying and I dont trust the scumbag in the White House or the Mexicans
When the government agencies would not authorize the surveillance, some agents tried to watch the purchasers on their own.
Exactly, They knew people would die, but didn't care. Taking guns away is the first step in controlling the people before a government takeover.
I really hate the un-American Marxist traitors in power, and more so - the useful Idiots that make up half the US population. How can the next election be anything but a landslide? There are a lot of TAKERS on the democrat plantation and they mean to stay there.
Actually Wide Receiver was terminated in 2007 by the people who were running it. Holder definitely didn’t end that program. F&F was begun in Oct. 2009.
Afterburner with Bill Whittle: Follow the Ideology
I’m glad this story is finally getting some attention. I first saw that video about a year ago.
0bozo told Sarah Brady "I'm still pushing gun control, but under the radar."
2. Obama or admin made statements about gun seizures. Hillary part of statements. Found on trains?
I don't know about that but 0bungles, Holder and Hillary were making frequent statements about a "river of guns" flowing to Mexico from the U.S.
0baMugabe, Holder and Napolitano have used that confusion to deliberately muddy the waters.
While the weapons found at the Zapata murder scene were not from among the Fast and Furious guns, this revelation is profoundly significant, because it directly contradicts sworn testimony by Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano.
I have no information to that effect, no. I dont know one way or the other, she replied to a direct question on any Fast and Furious connection by Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Texas.
Word games. Here's the little trick Napolitano, Holder and ATF are playing. F&F was an ATF operation run out of the Tucson AZ office. But some guns were walked out of Texas gun shops which puts them in the jurisdiction of Texas ATF offices so those ops must have had other names. So far I have not seen any reporting on what those op names were.
So you are right that Project Gunrunner was a legitimate program begun in 2005 under Bush but it is still the name of the program used when 0bama came into office and is the umbrella program for all of the criminally insane local ATF operations run since his ascension to the throne.
All of them"Wide Receiver", "Fast & Furious", "Gunwalker", etc.are one and the same since Obama took office. For this venal Quisling to state for the record that, on the one hand, he had (as announced in the 2009 video used as the basis for this post) a legitimate "Gun Walking" program in place, and then there was this new "Fast & Furious" program which was started by the ATF's Arizona Field Office without his or Holder's knowledge is absurd! Doesn't begin to pass the smell-test.
It is also typical of the "Watch the Left Hand" obfuscation which has become a hallmark of this felonious bandersnatch of a Manchurian non-President bastard weasel jerk. Pig-dog.
“Obama and Holder should both be doing time.”
Only as long as it takes to arrange the gallows on the Capitol steps, and finish the job.
It was established many months ago that neither Mexican authorities nor ATF agents stationed in Mexico were informed of the "gun walking" going on under F&F. That info didn't come from Mexico but it might be hard to find the article(s) it was first published in now.
For the record; there has never been a program or operation called “Gunwalker.”
Obama and Holder are beginning to look like an old Amos n Andy reel. And the liberal elites are in denial while Hollywood and the gays are still kissing Obama’s butt. It is up to the patriotic traditionalist silent majority to give Obama and his minions the boot
The reason cops ask the same questions over and over for hours when interrogating someone they believe to be guilty, is because eventually the liar trips himself up by contradicting a prior statement. This is almost always proof of some form of a deceit, as someone merely repeating the truth will most likely not vary when recounting the facts.
O'Bunghole and withHolder are cooked. Sooner or later they'll step smack-dab into the pile of crap they've dumped over the past months, and they'll be caught bald-faced and whining.
They like to lie their arses off, feel confident doing so, because they know the media will dutifully spread their lies without any criticism. Like Rush says, he calls them Obama’s steno pool. Hopefully this is changing towards more fair reporting because the lies and the executive privilege Obama pulled is getting too much for our liberal journalists.
Democrats are used to getting traction in the media, this is why they smirk when they spread their lies. Republican have trouble getting their messages out due to media bias
Learning how to do custom searches on Google. I'm thinking Lexis Nexis would also be helpful.
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