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2,300 houses evacuated, 4,000 acres burned by target shooter ?
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Posted on 06/22/2012 8:37:33 PM PDT by Java4Jay

Bureau of Land Management officials say they believe the blaze was caused when a bullet hit a rock and sparked the fire. This is the 20th target-shooting related fire this year in Utah, they said.

(Excerpt) Read more at newstimes.com ...


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Are they serious ?
1 posted on 06/22/2012 8:37:46 PM PDT by Java4Jay
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To: Java4Jay

Lead and copper do not give off sparks.


2 posted on 06/22/2012 8:39:44 PM PDT by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: Eaker

Flint bullet ping.


3 posted on 06/22/2012 8:40:38 PM PDT by TheMom (Stressed spelled backwards is Desserts!)
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To: Java4Jay

Here come the ‘gun grabbers’! Jeesh!


4 posted on 06/22/2012 8:40:54 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Wings cannot be redistributed, they can only be broken. ~ Oleg Atbashian (People's Cube))
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To: Java4Jay

Sounds like the Chicago police explaining all the murders in the city as suicides ... maybe not truthful, but believable by most of the city sheeple.


5 posted on 06/22/2012 8:42:04 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: LukeL

But it will fly in Chicago where there are no guns! Remember, “you can’t out-stupid progressives”.


6 posted on 06/22/2012 8:43:52 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: Java4Jay

BLM are under direction to make it up.

Guess who?


7 posted on 06/22/2012 8:44:19 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: TheMom

Good grief!

I thought you were kidding.


8 posted on 06/22/2012 8:45:15 PM PDT by Eaker (When somebody hands you your arse, don't give it back saying "This needs a little more tenderizing.")
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To: hadaclueonce

I would give money to a frog with big balls to run against Obammy.


9 posted on 06/22/2012 8:46:01 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: Java4Jay

I don’t buy it personally. I read a study a few years back about just this thing happening. Guys that did it couldn’t get a fire started at all, on purpose. Only fire they managed to get started was using either tracer or other incendiaries.


10 posted on 06/22/2012 8:47:05 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Java4Jay

Well, they don’t have Gunwalker anymore. Any port in a storm.


11 posted on 06/22/2012 8:47:23 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Java4Jay

Guns don’t start fires. People and lightening do.


12 posted on 06/22/2012 8:51:58 PM PDT by Terry Mross (To My Liberal Kinfolk: Don't call, email or write until you've gotten your brain fixed.)
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To: Java4Jay
... the blaze was caused when a bullet hit a rock and sparked the fire.

That is the dumbest thing I've read today. Had to be a government drone.

13 posted on 06/22/2012 8:52:35 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: LukeL
"Lead and copper do not give off sparks."

No they don't, but I wouldn't put it past some idiots to shoot tracers into dry brush...I've seen it happen...on ranges where tracers were expressly forbidden.

14 posted on 06/22/2012 8:52:35 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Java4Jay
Here is a picture of the bullet


15 posted on 06/22/2012 8:56:27 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Java4Jay

I guess this is to make up for F&F not giving them the excuse/pretext to go after gun rights.


16 posted on 06/22/2012 9:00:39 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Domandred
Yea here we go

Experiment: Bullets don't start blaze

This is a news article on the experiments. Original posting had setups, pictures, etc to each experiment run. Too late to try to find it tonight.

17 posted on 06/22/2012 9:03:02 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: basil

ping for later......


18 posted on 06/22/2012 9:05:15 PM PDT by basil
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To: Java4Jay

Magnesium tipped bullets?

Unless the “target shooter” was using tracers, no way a stray bullet sparked a fire.


19 posted on 06/22/2012 9:05:41 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Java4Jay

In the last 10 or 15 years Hollywood action movies began depicting sparks igniting when bullets hit concrete, bricks, automobiles, etc. If it happens it’s rare.


20 posted on 06/22/2012 9:11:54 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: LukeL
Lead and copper do not give off sparks.

Sparks don't start fires unless surrounded by lots of kindling, and as any good boy scout knows, even this is not an especially easy way to achieve ignition.

21 posted on 06/22/2012 9:12:43 PM PDT by Zakeet (We have to go spend money to keep from going bankrupt - Joe Biden)
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To: USNBandit

No more likely but liberals love blaming every fire on BS.

Illegal alien criminal scum cause the vast majority of these fires and it sure as hell isn’t from bullets or butts.


22 posted on 06/22/2012 9:12:58 PM PDT by Eaker (When somebody hands you your arse, don't give it back saying "This needs a little more tenderizing.")
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To: Java4Jay
The same cause has been cited for a fire nearby me (in Colorado).
Predictably, all of the shooting areas nearby are being closed.

Forest Service closing shooting areas

23 posted on 06/22/2012 9:20:21 PM PDT by Washi (Surviving the Zombie Apocalypse, one head-shot at a time.)
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To: Washi

Excerpt from the story:

BLM officials say they believe the blaze was caused when a bullet hit a rock and sparked the fire. This is the 20th target-shooting related fire this year in Utah, they said.

Read more: http://www.newstimes.com/news/article/Fire-sparked-by-shooting-evacuates-homes-in-Utah-3655104.php#ixzz1yaVkxEfv

Really? 20th target-shooting related fire this year alone? You just can’t make this stuff up - oh wait, yeah they did!


24 posted on 06/22/2012 9:35:57 PM PDT by jcsjcm (This country was built on exceptionalism and individualism. In God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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To: jcsjcm

I believe it more likely it was an illegal alien or a drunk or a college kid... 20 bullet fires in one year? Seems awfully convenient for Herr Obama.


25 posted on 06/22/2012 9:41:03 PM PDT by PghBaldy (I eagerly await the next news about the struggles of Elizabeth Sacheen Littlefeather Warren.)
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To: jcsjcm
This is the 20th target-shooting related fire this year in Utah, they said.

These guys are smoking something. Nonsense.

26 posted on 06/22/2012 9:41:12 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Washi

Somebody needs to go all Mythbusters on this.

Set up a pile of gasoline soaked tumbleweeds on rocks and shoot .50 BMG rounds at it all day and see what happens. Don’t forget to invite NBC so they can bury model rocket engines in the middle of it and have the remote activated igniters in place.

That ought to do it. Film the whole thing and put it on MSLSD and CNN every 5 minutes for a week. No more target shooting in the boonies.


27 posted on 06/22/2012 9:43:58 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. That should be a convenience store, not a Government Agency.)
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To: Yo-Yo

i agree about tracers. it was so hot in germany in ‘77 (how hot was it, you ask?) we started pulling tracers out of machine gun belts, mortars could hva e max of 3 flares in the air and they had to burn out 100m above the ground and they were only fired to support tank platoon night battle runs. finally, after we went home, they just stopped because the tracers in the 105mm tank shells were causing fires.

only wat target shooting would cause a fire is overloading black powder weapons and anybody who shoots black powder is already smart enough to know better.


28 posted on 06/22/2012 9:47:30 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (If the little things really bother you, maybe it's because the big things are going well.)
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To: PghBaldy
20 bullet fires in one year?

They got swampland to sell too? LoL. Back in the days of the old west, the gunfire would have burned down all the forests West of Pecos river, if you believe this.

29 posted on 06/22/2012 9:48:37 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: LukeL
Lead and copper do not give off sparks.

Shhhhhhhhh.... you're not supposed to tell anyone. It's a secret. Like the fact that steel does melt.

(oops, now I did it myself).

: )

30 posted on 06/22/2012 9:53:18 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Red Steel
These guys are smoking something. Nonsense.

And a google search for Utah fires target shooters turns up About 1,680,000 results (0.30 seconds) so, true or not, it's out there, and it's multiplying...

31 posted on 06/22/2012 9:55:33 PM PDT by sockmonkey (I will vote for Romney to get Obama out of the White House..)
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To: Java4Jay

How in TF could they come to that conclusion/collusion ?


32 posted on 06/22/2012 9:56:07 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live thnrough it anyway)
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To: Red Steel
These guys are smoking something.

Yeah, while they were out investigating the 19th fire, they dropped the lit roach, and.... oops.

33 posted on 06/22/2012 9:57:57 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: bravo whiskey

I saw on the T.V. where they thought/ had evidence that the shooters were shooting at exploding targets.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqfEi6pVurI&feature=related

Tracers perhaps.

I would think that probably a higher risk is just by having folks around. Smoking, exhaust pipes parked in the grass, etc.


34 posted on 06/22/2012 10:03:54 PM PDT by 21twelve
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To: Yo-Yo

The feds have been hot to trot for banning milsurp ammo with carbide or hardened steel core.


35 posted on 06/22/2012 10:12:10 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (A man with his feet hacked off tends not to scurry far. - Norse proverb)
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To: sockmonkey

Funny that doing searches on youtube.com, not 1 video I see throughout the years of the millions of youtube videos show no gunfire starting brush fires or claim that has happened.

The keywords that I used are in hyperlinks to youtube pages below.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=shooting+starts+forest+fires&page=2

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=gunfire+start+forest+fires&oq=&aq=&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=

Although, some military guys are shooting the Ma-Deuce say they don’t shoot randomly so not to cause a possible fire.


36 posted on 06/22/2012 10:15:32 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Java4Jay
2,300 houses evacuated, 4,000 acres burned by target shooter?

Yeah, I bet. Morons.

37 posted on 06/22/2012 10:16:18 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: hadaclueonce
I would give money to a frog with big balls to run against Obammy.

Well, the website is probably something like RomneyForPresident.com or something like that. I'm sure they're taking donations.

38 posted on 06/22/2012 10:18:07 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: UCANSEE2

Yeah, or it could be all those HEI or API rounds being shot by all those tea party guys running loose in the Rocky Mountains. ;-)


39 posted on 06/22/2012 10:20:35 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: UCANSEE2

Or APIT rounds too. :-)


40 posted on 06/22/2012 10:21:46 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: hadaclueonce
BLM are under direction to make it up.

Guess who?

Lefty Ken Salazar who serves at the pleasure of Barack Hussein Obama. Heck, Fast and Furious went bust! They gotta try something else. :^)

41 posted on 06/22/2012 10:26:25 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: LukeL
Lead and copper do not give off sparks.

No but bullets can cause sparks by smashing one rock against another.

42 posted on 06/22/2012 11:07:56 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Zakeet
Sparks don't start fires unless surrounded by lots of kindling, and as any good boy scout knows, even this is not an especially easy way to achieve ignition.

Here in the west everything is kindling right now. Or, as they say, tinder dry. Worst I've ever seen it.

43 posted on 06/22/2012 11:10:45 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Java4Jay

“Al Qaeda threatening to start wildfires”

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/national_world&id=8646527


44 posted on 06/22/2012 11:42:22 PM PDT by MCF
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To: TigersEye

The chances of you getting a fire started by that combination of circumstances are about as good as you being able to fly to the moon on the wings of a turtledove. Pretty much ZERO or less than.


45 posted on 06/23/2012 12:14:12 AM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: Java4Jay

THE GUN BAN LOBBY REACHING, Sounds more like the eco nazis are at it again


46 posted on 06/23/2012 2:30:35 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (B B)
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To: All
Look closely...its an AP story...and I do mean story.
47 posted on 06/23/2012 2:59:18 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: MCF

This is a scenario I have been thinking more and more about this summer. We know they are here somewhere. This is something the terrorists could do to us pretty much at will, it’s cheap, all it takes is a match, the damage to local economies is terrible.

How could we possibly defend against such action? Oh there is that border security nonsense. S/


48 posted on 06/23/2012 3:07:47 AM PDT by Rearden (Deo Vindice)
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To: Java4Jay

I take it someone found the target neatly placed by a shell casing. Maybe a little burned around the edges for effect.


49 posted on 06/23/2012 3:15:56 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Hollyweird special effects pyrotechnics, only. In 55yrs of shooting, I’ve never seen it happen w/ lead or copper rounds.


50 posted on 06/23/2012 3:27:54 AM PDT by carriage_hill (All libs & most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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