Skip to comments.Exodus: Wisconsin Government Workers Abandon Unions in Droves
Posted on 06/23/2012 4:39:59 AM PDT by Kaslin
First, a mea culpa: I'm several weeks late to this story, but it's so significant that I figured I'd adopt a "better late than never" approach and bring this to your attention anyway:
Wisconsin membership in the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees - the state's second-largest public-sector union after the National Education Association, which represents teachers - fell to 28,745 in February from 62,818 in March 2011, according to a person who has viewed Afscme's figures. A spokesman for Afscme declined to comment. Much of that decline came from Afscme Council 24, which represents Wisconsin state workers, whose membership plunged by two-thirds to 7,100 from 22,300 last year.
A provision of the Walker law that eliminated automatic dues collection hurt union membership. When a public-sector contract expires the state now stops collecting dues from the affected workers' paychecks unless they say they want the dues taken out, said Peter Davis, general counsel of the Wisconsin Employment Relations Commission. In many cases, Afscme dropped members from its rolls after it failed to get them to affirm they want dues collected, said a labor official familiar with Afscme's figures. In a smaller number of cases, membership losses were due to worker layoffs.
Maddow: Without unions, Democrats do not have a way to compete [VIDEO]
So [government sector unions] they go away — in terms of whether or not that corporate money that’s disproportionately supporting Republicans can be answered — at least on the Democratic side, before there is some kind of reform, Democrats do not have a way to compete in terms of big outside money in elections. And that is the reality now in Wisconsin. It is the reality in states where they have essentially eliminated unions rights...I think, structurally, that’s a pretty dire electoral situation for Democrats.”
It’s good to see things getting better in Wi.
Could union menbers ACTUALLY be waking up???
>And that is the reality now in Wisconsin. It is the reality in states where they have essentially eliminated unions rights...
Um, eliminating compulsory dues from non consenting workers is not eliminating Union rights - it is called freedom from tyranny & theft.
And THAT is the reality.
“- fell to 28,745 in February from 62,818 in March 2011”!!!
Ouch, that’s gotta hurt.
Where is the dembo party going to go to shake down contributions now?
Compulsory dues collection is always a problem ~ and it's one imposed by the state government's very own jack booted thugs.
Take away the fascist legion and people won't pay.
Unions are Pro-Choice, theirs.
Now that workers have a choice in paying Unions dues or not the Unionistas at the top no likey the freedom to choose. Dictators never do.
and just this week the SCOTUS laid a big hammer on the practice nationwide. Looks like Trumpka and the rest of the goons are going to have to go back to the old way, at the point of a gun or the very least knee capping.
Public unions lose their right to steal!
That’s aproximately 46% of their total membership and will certainly hurt their political fund raising ability .
“For the first time in my adult life I am proud of some union members” . ,,,, no that wasn’t Moochelle sayin’ that .
And all those Occupy morons and rabble rousers who trashed the Capitol rotunda in Madison were unwitting pawns doing the bidding for the Union overlords. They got played and discarded when no longer useful. Suckers.
I believe many of the rank and file union members are more like indentured servants to the union than free members of the work force. The other union members are just thugs. IMHO.
there are two Ps in the word APROXAMATLY
Har Har Har.
Send this info to all the libs you know and watch the heads explode. What could be more fun?
And the 7-2 court decision on just haphazardly increasing fees to support political candidates with no notification or opt out was shot down to boot. How 2 justices think it is okay to raise dues to pilfer money for politics is beyond me on all levels of right and wrong.
Well, they *will* have to issue a stern warning. You don't have to pay a fine... this time.
You incorrectly spelled Lionheartusa1’s incorrect spelling.
Knock of the grammar nazi stuf.
I do recall the push to unionize graduate students back at UC Davis. Students in soft majors (English, sociology, etc.) led the push, while students in hard majors (experimental sciences) weren’t at all involved in the effort.
Those pushing for unionization wanted mandatory union dues extracted from every graduate student, on the pretext that “the union benefits everyone, whether they belong or not.” They also wanted to eliminate everything that might be a source of competition, as well...pay based on performance, for example.
I refused to sign any of the union membership drive petitions, or even to talk to the union organizers.
when it comes to getting school teaches to pay up it usually only takes one ~ they’re smart and know what’s coming to them if they don’t!
It looks like some good-natured kidding to me. People who use “tad” usually know how to spell. They just don’t always type what they know.
Those of us using sausage fingers to enter #4-size font comments on 2”x4” touchscreens understand your pain.
there are APROXAMATLY two Ps in the word approximately.
“Could union menbers ACTUALLY be waking up???”
Soon, breaking up as well, It will take time though.
The unions couldn’t see this coming? Idiots.
“Stuf” has two “ff’s”
:) This is fun, like dragging a five dollar bill through a trailer park. It will snag them every time. I ask you to knock it off. Just can’t help it, huh?
Wisconsin ping: Unions see member exodus
FReep Mail me if you want on, or off this Wisconsin interest ping list.
On the contrary, they’ve been awake. But didn’t have any choice in the matter as long as the state had to collect for the unions. I know some who are or were in unions and they hate it - total scam every which way.
Don’t you just love it when a good plan comes together?
I was traveling in NY state this week when a fellow found out I was Pro-Walker from WI and he told me he (MA resident) had sent $200 to a PAC that supported Gov. Walker. He THANKED ME and shook my hand and said - those unions must go. He was very proud to have contributed to Walker’s success here in WI.
This IS reality in WI. A ton of teachers never, ever wanted to pay compulsary union dues and don’t WANT to be part of a stupid union. Also, why oh why should our state spend one red cent on administration to collect these dues from the public unions paychecks. Gee, that Gov. Walker is full of good ideas. May this spread all across the country.
“it is called freedom from tyranny & theft.
And THAT is the reality.”
The Death of the RAT Party!
1. Take away their union (read Taxpayer) money.
2. Force them to tell the truth about their “vision for the country.”
A horrible misuse of the word, especially in this case. Much, much more than "decimated", which is to say cut by 1/10.
I pity the poor person who only knows one way to spell a word. (paraphrasing Oscar Wilde)
Yeah, I’ve seen this.
Just put a sign over this clowns neck, anythng for a buck.
And if you think he’s made a few dollars so far, just wait to see his list of pardons when he loses.
These Wisconsin Gov’t workers hate paying taxes same as everyone else. So now they are refusing to pay this tax called union membership dues which can be a thousand a year. Union honchos are going to have to go on a diet and layoff some of the unneeded staff. F’em!
My sllepnig is frlaiy rnaodm.
Sorry, just trying to have fun.
“,,,,,dont’ send the spelling police after me,,,”
Ur lahk uv speling ahbillity haz bin dooly notid; Iu hav bin playsed on probayshun.
Many hold that decimate simply means to "greatly reduce" although some adhere to your belief that it means to reduce by 1/10th (i.e. from 100 to 90). However, there are others in the camp that says that decimate actually means not to reduce by a tenth but to reduce to a tenth. For example, from 100 to 10.
As long as the supply of turkey and cheese sandwiches at our nation's delicatessens hold out, the debate shall rage on and on, with no resolution.
If this is the tenor of decisions from the SC lately, then I have to think that the big “enchilada”...Obama care is going down hard!
Lesson to future presidents who diss SC justices during State of the Union speeches....revenge is a dish best served cold!
Lets see 1000 dues dollars not being paid by 40, ooo ex union members. That’s 40 million dollars that can be put back into the economy instead of politicians coffers. Now that’s a stimulus I can live with!
I also had a problem with the queen’s 60 year “jubilee”. Originally it meant 50 years. It has morphed into a party or celebration or whatever anybody wants it to mean.
My wife and I will soon celebrate our 46 year wedding anniversary jubilee.
And a “deluge” without any water.
more union thievery...from the members of the union