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Exodus: Wisconsin Government Workers Abandon Unions in Droves
Townhall.com ^ | June 22, 2012 | Guy Benson

Posted on 06/23/2012 4:39:59 AM PDT by Kaslin

First, a mea culpa: I'm several weeks late to this story, but it's so significant that I figured I'd adopt a "better late than never" approach and bring this to your attention anyway:
 

Wisconsin membership in the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees - the state's second-largest public-sector union after the National Education Association, which represents teachers - fell to 28,745 in February from 62,818 in March 2011, according to a person who has viewed Afscme's figures. A spokesman for Afscme declined to comment. Much of that decline came from Afscme Council 24, which represents Wisconsin state workers, whose membership plunged by two-thirds to 7,100 from 22,300 last year.

A provision of the Walker law that eliminated automatic dues collection hurt union membership. When a public-sector contract expires the state now stops collecting dues from the affected workers' paychecks unless they say they want the dues taken out, said Peter Davis, general counsel of the Wisconsin Employment Relations Commission. In many cases, Afscme dropped members from its rolls after it failed to get them to affirm they want dues collected, said a labor official familiar with Afscme's figures. In a smaller number of cases, membership losses were due to worker layoffs.


Wow.  Jim Geraghty's extemporaneous headline nailed the lesson here: "Here’s What Happens When Government Stops Collecting Dues for Unions."  This is exactly right.  For all of the noise organized labor made about paying more toward their healthcare and pensions, and the Hitleresque erosion of their sacred collective bargaining "rights," this is what really kept union bosses up at night.  If Scott Walker could make paying dues non-compulsory, they worried, manyrank-and-file members may realize they just aren't too interested in automatically donating to Democrats cycle after cycle after all.  Many of them might therefore opt out of the racket in order to spend their money as they see fit, thus derailing the gravy train.  As we now see, those fears have been realized on a grand scale; Wisconsin's public sector union rolls have been decimated in just over a year.  Given a free choice, government workers have clamored to drop mandatory dues like a bad habit.  Remember, this is why the Maddow crowd was so apoplectic over the spectacularly failed Wisconsin recall-o-rama:

June 23, 2012

Maddow: Without unions, ‘Democrats do not have a way to compete’ [VIDEO]

So [government sector unions] they go away — in terms of whether or not that corporate money that’s disproportionately supporting Republicans can be answered — at least on the Democratic side, before there is some kind of reform, Democrats do not have a way to compete in terms of big outside money in elections. And that is the reality now in Wisconsin. It is the reality in states where they have essentially eliminated unions rights...I think, structurally, that’s a pretty dire electoral situation for Democrats.”


Indeed, Ms. Maddow.
 


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
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1 posted on 06/23/2012 4:40:04 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

It’s good to see things getting better in Wi.


2 posted on 06/23/2012 4:43:27 AM PDT by rightly_dividing (We are Scott Walker.)
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To: Kaslin

Could union menbers ACTUALLY be waking up???


3 posted on 06/23/2012 4:44:07 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Kaslin

>And that is the reality now in Wisconsin. It is the reality in states where they have essentially eliminated unions rights...

Um, eliminating compulsory dues from non consenting workers is not eliminating Union rights - it is called freedom from tyranny & theft.

And THAT is the reality.


4 posted on 06/23/2012 4:46:32 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: Kaslin

“- fell to 28,745 in February from 62,818 in March 2011”!!!
Ouch, that’s gotta hurt.
Where is the dembo party going to go to shake down contributions now?


5 posted on 06/23/2012 4:47:56 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: Ann Archy
What makes you think union members weren't already awake?

Compulsory dues collection is always a problem ~ and it's one imposed by the state government's very own jack booted thugs.

Take away the fascist legion and people won't pay.

6 posted on 06/23/2012 4:49:43 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Kaslin

Unions are Pro-Choice, theirs.
Now that workers have a choice in paying Unions dues or not the Unionistas at the top no likey the freedom to choose. Dictators never do.


7 posted on 06/23/2012 4:57:48 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: muawiyah

and just this week the SCOTUS laid a big hammer on the practice nationwide. Looks like Trumpka and the rest of the goons are going to have to go back to the old way, at the point of a gun or the very least knee capping.


8 posted on 06/23/2012 4:58:38 AM PDT by mazda77 (and I am a Native Texan)
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To: Kaslin

Public unions lose their right to steal!


9 posted on 06/23/2012 5:01:48 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Kaslin

WOW!!!!!!!!

That’s aproximately 46% of their total membership and will certainly hurt their political fund raising ability .

“For the first time in my adult life I am proud of some union members” . ,,,, no that wasn’t Moochelle sayin’ that .


10 posted on 06/23/2012 5:02:15 AM PDT by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: Kaslin

And all those Occupy morons and rabble rousers who trashed the Capitol rotunda in Madison were unwitting pawns doing the bidding for the Union overlords. They got played and discarded when no longer useful. Suckers.


11 posted on 06/23/2012 5:04:24 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: Lionheartusa1
,,,,,,, dont’ send the spelling police after me ,,, I know there are two Ps in the word APPROXIMATELY ,, I just didn't strike the keyboard hard enough to add it I suppose .
12 posted on 06/23/2012 5:06:33 AM PDT by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: Ann Archy

I believe many of the rank and file union members are more like indentured servants to the union than free members of the work force. The other union members are just thugs. IMHO.


13 posted on 06/23/2012 5:11:53 AM PDT by Tahoe3002
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To: Lionheartusa1

there are two Ps in the word APROXAMATLY


14 posted on 06/23/2012 5:12:07 AM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: rightly_dividing

Har Har Har.

Send this info to all the libs you know and watch the heads explode. What could be more fun?


15 posted on 06/23/2012 5:13:21 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: Joe Boucher

And the 7-2 court decision on just haphazardly increasing fees to support political candidates with no notification or opt out was shot down to boot. How 2 justices think it is okay to raise dues to pilfer money for politics is beyond me on all levels of right and wrong.


16 posted on 06/23/2012 5:19:53 AM PDT by commonguymd (Freedom is a myth anymore it seems)
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To: Lionheartusa1
dont’ send the spelling police after me

Well, they *will* have to issue a stern warning. You don't have to pay a fine... this time.

17 posted on 06/23/2012 5:24:07 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: umgud

You incorrectly spelled Lionheartusa1’s incorrect spelling.

Knock of the grammar nazi stuf.


18 posted on 06/23/2012 5:24:07 AM PDT by burroak
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To: Kaslin

I do recall the push to unionize graduate students back at UC Davis. Students in soft majors (English, sociology, etc.) led the push, while students in hard majors (experimental sciences) weren’t at all involved in the effort.

Those pushing for unionization wanted mandatory union dues extracted from every graduate student, on the pretext that “the union benefits everyone, whether they belong or not.” They also wanted to eliminate everything that might be a source of competition, as well...pay based on performance, for example.

I refused to sign any of the union membership drive petitions, or even to talk to the union organizers.


19 posted on 06/23/2012 5:30:53 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: mazda77

when it comes to getting school teaches to pay up it usually only takes one ~ they’re smart and know what’s coming to them if they don’t!


20 posted on 06/23/2012 5:32:23 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Kaslin
This also explains the recent moves by the AFL-CIO to stop contributing to Democrats in this election. It isn't punishment for the Democrats as much as self preservation. I think they know they don't represent a lot of their membership politically, and so they are throwing the Democrats overboard in order to keep their membership happy. This is actually good news for unions, if they would focus only on worker issues, they would have a lot more respect from me.
21 posted on 06/23/2012 5:46:36 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: burroak

It looks like some good-natured kidding to me. People who use “tad” usually know how to spell. They just don’t always type what they know.


22 posted on 06/23/2012 5:53:17 AM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Lionheartusa1

Those of us using sausage fingers to enter #4-size font comments on 2”x4” touchscreens understand your pain.


23 posted on 06/23/2012 6:08:49 AM PDT by moovova
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To: umgud

there are APROXAMATLY two Ps in the word approximately.


24 posted on 06/23/2012 6:18:25 AM PDT by Thom Pain (U.S. Constitution is a CONTRACT!)
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To: Ann Archy

“Could union menbers ACTUALLY be waking up???”

Soon, breaking up as well, It will take time though.


25 posted on 06/23/2012 6:21:34 AM PDT by foundedonpurpose (Be strong in truth!)
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To: Kaslin

WI Bump!

The unions couldn’t see this coming? Idiots.


26 posted on 06/23/2012 6:57:32 AM PDT by upchuck (Need is not an acceptable lifestyle choice; dependent is not a career. ~ Dr. Tim Nerenz)
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To: burroak

“Stuf” has two “ff’s”


27 posted on 06/23/2012 7:07:41 AM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: umgud
There are only two As in the word; approximately
28 posted on 06/23/2012 7:32:59 AM PDT by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: Uncle Sham

:) This is fun, like dragging a five dollar bill through a trailer park. It will snag them every time. I ask you to knock it off. Just can’t help it, huh?


29 posted on 06/23/2012 7:33:56 AM PDT by burroak
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To: Kaslin; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; Wisconsinlady; JPG; ...

Wisconsin ping: Unions see member exodus

FReep Mail me if you want on, or off this Wisconsin interest ping list.


30 posted on 06/23/2012 7:34:43 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Ann Archy

On the contrary, they’ve been awake. But didn’t have any choice in the matter as long as the state had to collect for the unions. I know some who are or were in unions and they hate it - total scam every which way.


31 posted on 06/23/2012 7:39:06 AM PDT by Ladysmith (The evil that's happening in this country is the cancer of socialism...It kills the human spirit.)
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To: Joe Boucher
Where is the dembo party going to go to shake down contributions now?

Obama: Campaign Donation Makes the Perfect Wedding Gift

32 posted on 06/23/2012 7:45:40 AM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: skr
"..tad.."
...'series'uosly... :-D

33 posted on 06/23/2012 7:54:46 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (WA DC E$tabli$hment; DNC/RNC/Unionists...Brazilian saying: "$@me Old $hit; different flie$". :^)
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To: umgud
Wait a minute. If you know there are 2 Ps in Approxomatley how some you spell it only with one p?
34 posted on 06/23/2012 8:04:03 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: He is counting on the ignorantOne Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: bill1952

Don’t you just love it when a good plan comes together?

I was traveling in NY state this week when a fellow found out I was Pro-Walker from WI and he told me he (MA resident) had sent $200 to a PAC that supported Gov. Walker. He THANKED ME and shook my hand and said - those unions must go. He was very proud to have contributed to Walker’s success here in WI.

This IS reality in WI. A ton of teachers never, ever wanted to pay compulsary union dues and don’t WANT to be part of a stupid union. Also, why oh why should our state spend one red cent on administration to collect these dues from the public unions paychecks. Gee, that Gov. Walker is full of good ideas. May this spread all across the country.


35 posted on 06/23/2012 8:26:46 AM PDT by WaterWeWaitinFor (If we don't help make a change, then who will? It starts with us.)
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To: Ann Archy
"Workers of the World Unite. You have nothing to lose but the cost of being slaves to the union."
36 posted on 06/23/2012 9:28:43 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: bill1952

“it is called freedom from tyranny & theft.
And THAT is the reality.”

The Death of the RAT Party!

1. Take away their union (read Taxpayer) money.
2. Force them to tell the truth about their “vision for the country.”


37 posted on 06/23/2012 9:55:39 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Kaslin
As we now see, those fears have been realized on a grand scale; Wisconsin's public sector union rolls have been decimated in just over a year.

A horrible misuse of the word, especially in this case. Much, much more than "decimated", which is to say cut by 1/10.

38 posted on 06/23/2012 10:07:14 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Come quickly Lord Jesus.)
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To: Kaslin; Lionheartusa1; Thom Pain; burroak; umgud

I pity the poor person who only knows one way to spell a word. (paraphrasing Oscar Wilde)


39 posted on 06/23/2012 10:13:05 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Come quickly Lord Jesus.)
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To: Oatka

Yeah, I’ve seen this.
Just put a sign over this clowns neck, anythng for a buck.
And if you think he’s made a few dollars so far, just wait to see his list of pardons when he loses.


40 posted on 06/23/2012 10:14:05 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: Kaslin

These Wisconsin Gov’t workers hate paying taxes same as everyone else. So now they are refusing to pay this tax called union membership dues which can be a thousand a year. Union honchos are going to have to go on a diet and layoff some of the unneeded staff. F’em!


41 posted on 06/23/2012 1:00:02 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: Graybeard58

My sllepnig is frlaiy rnaodm.

Sorry, just trying to have fun.


42 posted on 06/23/2012 1:28:37 PM PDT by Thom Pain (U.S. Constitution is a CONTRACT!)
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To: Lionheartusa1

“,,,,,dont’ send the spelling police after me,,,”

Ur lahk uv speling ahbillity haz bin dooly notid; Iu hav bin playsed on probayshun.


43 posted on 06/23/2012 2:03:39 PM PDT by ripley
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To: Graybeard58
Actually the true meaning of the word decimate is the subject of spirited debate among many English teachers, as they lunch on sandwiches of roasted turkey breast and swiss cheese on rye bread (cut diagonally in triangular shape).

Many hold that decimate simply means to "greatly reduce" although some adhere to your belief that it means to reduce by 1/10th (i.e. from 100 to 90). However, there are others in the camp that says that decimate actually means not to reduce by a tenth but to reduce to a tenth. For example, from 100 to 10.

As long as the supply of turkey and cheese sandwiches at our nation's delicatessens hold out, the debate shall rage on and on, with no resolution.

44 posted on 06/23/2012 2:21:00 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: commonguymd

If this is the tenor of decisions from the SC lately, then I have to think that the big “enchilada”...Obama care is going down hard!

Lesson to future presidents who diss SC justices during State of the Union speeches....revenge is a dish best served cold!


45 posted on 06/23/2012 2:22:40 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (Kiss the Son!)
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To: dennisw

Lets see 1000 dues dollars not being paid by 40, ooo ex union members. That’s 40 million dollars that can be put back into the economy instead of politicians coffers. Now that’s a stimulus I can live with!


46 posted on 06/23/2012 2:29:16 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (Kiss the Son!)
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To: SamAdams76

I also had a problem with the queen’s 60 year “jubilee”. Originally it meant 50 years. It has morphed into a party or celebration or whatever anybody wants it to mean.

My wife and I will soon celebrate our 46 year wedding anniversary jubilee.


47 posted on 06/23/2012 3:04:26 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Come quickly Lord Jesus.)
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To: SamAdams76

And a “deluge” without any water.


48 posted on 06/23/2012 3:05:55 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Come quickly Lord Jesus.)
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To: Kaslin
Such a beautiful statistic. One can almost hear the gnashing of teeth and rending of garments among the lib elites. LOL. Imagine if we could get a ruling that said everyone was required to a write a physical check each month to pay their taxes; you know, so they could see right in front of them how much income they would get to keep otherwise. Wow, watch how fast people would wake up to all the "causes" they no longer support! (I know, I know, but I can dream, can't I?)
49 posted on 06/23/2012 3:16:28 PM PDT by workerbee (We're not scared, Maobama -- we're pissed off!)
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To: mdmathis6

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2898742/posts?page=1

more union thievery...from the members of the union


50 posted on 06/23/2012 3:26:37 PM PDT by dennisw
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