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Udall and Bennet Side With Obama on Key Energy Vote
The Colorado Observer ^ | June 21, 2012 | Mark Stricherz

Posted on 06/23/2012 6:32:17 AM PDT by george76

Colorado’s two Democratic senators sided with the White House on Wednesday when they voted to affirm what one GOP senator called “the centerpiece of President Obama’s war on coal.”

The rule, which proponents say is necessary to limit harmful emissions from coal-fired power plants, but that opponents say will destroy jobs and cause energy prices to skyrocket, narrowly survived an attempt at repeal yesterday.

Mark Udall and Michael Bennet opposed a measure that would have overturned the controversial EPA rule. The measure failed on a 46-to-53 vote yesterday.

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Udall and Bennet joined seven other Senate Democrats from major coal-producing states who opposed Inhofe’s amendment.

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The EPA rule will not go into effect until 2014, but both coal-industry supporters and the Obama administration have forecast doom if their side failed.

The National Economic Research Associates found that the EPA rule and other finalized and pending EPA regulations for power plants using coal could cost 183,000 jobs annually

(Excerpt) Read more at thecoloradoobserver.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado; US: Ohio; US: Pennsylvania; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: bennet; coal; energy; epa; gas; obama; oil; udall; waroncoal

1 posted on 06/23/2012 6:32:31 AM PDT by george76
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The rule, which proponents say is necessary to limit harmful emissions from coal-fired power plants, but that opponents say will destroy jobs and cause energy prices to skyrocket, narrowly survived an attempt at repeal yesterday.

Under the new normal for presidential power President Romney can tell the EPA not to enforce the law.

2 posted on 06/23/2012 6:44:23 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Ineptocracy; the Obama way.)
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My problem is with the DEFINITION of what constitutes any kind of “harmful emmissions”.

Clearly, sufides or sulfur dioxide, metallic elements, particulates, various forms of oxides of nitrogen, and uncombusted hydrocarbons are undesirable, but the two main products of combustion, carbon dioxide and water vapor, are both parts of the chain of life, and as such, should be permitted to exhaust freely into the atmosphere.

No one tags water vapor as “harmful”, and it would be impossible to regulate the presence or absence of water vapor anyway. But as a so-called “greenhouse gas”, water vapor is a MUCH more potent compound than carbon dioxide ever could be, if only because there is so much more water vapor than carbon dioxide in our atmosphere at any given time. By a factor of some thirty to well over one hundred times the content by percentage of the total of all atmospheric gases.

Air Composition
The sea-level composition of air (in percent by volume at the temperature of 15 degrees C and the pressure of 101325 Pa) is given below.

Name-Symbol-Percent by Volume
Nitrogen-N2- 78.084 %
Oxygen-O2- 20.9476 %
Argon-Ar- 0.934 %
Carbon Dioxide-CO2- 0.0384 %
Neon-Ne- 0.001818 %
Methane-CH4- 0.0002 %
Helium-He- 0.000524 %
Krypton-Kr- 0.000114 %
Hydrogen-H2- 0.00005 %
Xenon-Xe- 0.0000087 %

Water vapor is a highly variable component of the atmosphere, ranging from less than 1% to more than 4% of the volume of a given amount of air, and is expressed as “relative humidity”.

Source:
CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics
by David R. Lide, Editor-in-Chief

1997 Edition


3 posted on 06/23/2012 7:08:01 AM PDT by alloysteel (Fear and intimidation work. At least on the short term.)
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4 posted on 06/23/2012 8:08:27 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: george76
Good morning.

The 16th and 17th amendments to the Constitution should be repealed. [Briefly, for you liberals/socialists/democRATS out there, that is taxation of income, and election to the senate by popular vote]. The liberals/socialists/democRATs would not vote for the repeal of the 16th, because most of their constituencies are takers. The 17th on the other hand, you moochers and takers should go along with, right?

5.56mm

5 posted on 06/23/2012 8:19:24 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: george76
Good morning.

The 16th and 17th amendments to the Constitution should be repealed. [Briefly, for you liberals/socialists/democRATS out there, that is taxation of income, and election to the senate by popular vote]. The liberals/socialists/democRATs would not vote for the repeal of the 16th, because most of their constituencies are takers. The 17th on the other hand, you moochers and takers should go along with, right?

5.56mm

6 posted on 06/23/2012 8:19:24 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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If I was elected President, my first act in office would be to issue a directive to the EPA to cease enforcement of all laws and rulings put in place over the past 2 decades--maybe even 3 decades. Then I would work with Republicans in

That action alone would cause a huge boom in manufacturing in industry in general. Think of the burden the EPA has placed on American industry over the past few decades--the burden they have placed on every consumer.
7 posted on 06/23/2012 8:30:39 AM PDT by Sudetenland (Member of the BBB Club - Bye-Bye-Barry!!! President Barack "Down Low" Obama)
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To: alloysteel

All that a new president would have to do is tell the EPA to stop calling CO2 a dangerous pollutant (reverse Dec 2009 EPA finding).


8 posted on 06/23/2012 9:39:08 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Ineptocracy; the Obama way.)
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I hope that Romney takes full advantage of the dicey precedents that obama has crammed down our throats. Then maybe we can get back to constitutional government.
9 posted on 06/23/2012 10:10:43 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: george76

I hate Colorado commies!


10 posted on 06/23/2012 10:42:45 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: alloysteel

The fundamental problem with this situation is measurement and incentive. Zero doesn’t exist anymore because we can measure parts per to near infinity.

The second part is incentive. What bureaucrat is going to eliminate their own job? They cannot by basic self-interest be honest in any debate that risks their livelihood.

It happened with “lead poisoning” in paint. For years lead level blood measurements in children were falling and fell low enough that it was obvious we “won” the war on lead poisoning in children. How did HUD/EPA respond? They halved the acceptable level without any science to back it up and the “crisis” began anew.

How many jobs saved?


11 posted on 06/24/2012 6:06:17 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: hinckley buzzard

If he does that he’ll just be setting the stage for the next liberal POTUS. We need to get back our Constitution by Constitutional means, not the most expeditious ones.

We do that by successfully implementing our policies over generations and we do that by turning the economy around and electing the most conservative House and Senate we can.

That gives us SCOTUS appointments and legislation stuffing the genie back into the bottle. In the case of liberty, fighting fire with fire just burns up our rights.


12 posted on 06/24/2012 6:10:26 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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